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My experiences with Dermacrine, a new anabolic OTC supp

RottenWillow

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I'm currently on my 6th day of using this topical product which is described by it's manufacturer as increasing testosterone and decreasing estrogen. A blurb from the Dermacrine site states: "Dermacrine is a topically applied dietary supplement that dramatically increases testosterone, while maintaining a safe balance of estrogen and DHT." FYI it's offered by one of this board's newest sponsors.

There are about 178 bajllion threads on it in the AAS and supp forums if you'd like to read more about the experiences of other users, however I'm the only female to post any results. The manufacturer reccomends 4-5 lotion pumps or 30-40 sprays applied to the chest and/or back. No guidelines for women are listed, but the company's sponsor suggested 10 sprays for me. Being me I went with 15. :D

So my personal observations thus far. By the third day I seemed to have improved energy, despite not getting enough sleep. My endurance was noticably better and my sex drive was clearly up beginning yesterday and continuing through today (the 5th and 6th days). Too early to report any strength or muscle gains.

A quick word about my sex drive...it has been quite poor for a few months now. I was even considering seeing an endo to have my T levels checks. The fact that for the first time in months I've been getting spontaneously horny is very significant. I went from never being interested, to being interested last night, again this morning, and again this evening. My fiance really likes Dermacrine.

The bottle is supposed to last about 30 days for a man, but I expect it to last me about 10 weeks given my dosage. I'll update this thread about once weekly to document my observations.
 
Hey cool stuff girl - I was acutally wondering about that today.. .let us know how it goes! Anything else you might expect to see w/ increase T / lower E -- oily skin, acne, "aggression", sense of well-being, oily hair, etc?
 
See guys, I told you a little “rub off” on your girl wouldn’t be a problem…. :p

-Pp

In all seriousness, please be careful, and take a break after a couple weeks.

The masculinizing side effects manifest very slowly and inconspicuously. The woman using the andro hardly notice a negative effect until one day somebody points it out the obvious…
 
RottenWillow said:
I'm currently on my 6th day of using this topical product which is described by it's manufacturer as increasing testosterone and decreasing estrogen. A blurb from the Dermacrine site states: "Dermacrine is a topically applied dietary supplement that dramatically increases testosterone, while maintaining a safe balance of estrogen and DHT." FYI it's offered by one of this board's newest sponsors.

There are about 178 bajllion threads on it in the AAS and supp forums if you'd like to read more about the experiences of other users, however I'm the only female to post any results. The manufacturer reccomends 4-5 lotion pumps or 30-40 sprays applied to the chest and/or back. No guidelines for women are listed, but the company's sponsor suggested 10 sprays for me. Being me I went with 15. :D

So my personal observations thus far. By the third day I seemed to have improved energy, despite not getting enough sleep. My endurance was noticably better and my sex drive was clearly up beginning yesterday and continuing through today (the 5th and 6th days). Too early to report any strength or muscle gains.

A quick word about my sex drive...it has been quite poor for a few months now. I was even considering seeing an endo to have my T levels checks. The fact that for the first time in months I've been getting spontaneously horny is very significant. I went from never being interested, to being interested last night, again this morning, and again this evening. My fiance really likes Dermacrine.

The bottle is supposed to last about 30 days for a man, but I expect it to last me about 10 weeks given my dosage. I'll update this thread about once weekly to document my observations.
good to here good post
 
Sassy69 said:
Hey cool stuff girl - I was acutally wondering about that today.. .let us know how it goes! Anything else you might expect to see w/ increase T / lower E -- oily skin, acne, "aggression", sense of well-being, oily hair, etc?

Yes to improved sense of well being, and a maybe to being a bit more assertive.
My energy level and stamina seem to be improving each day despite the fact that I've been going to bed way too late this week and not getting more than 5 hours sleep each night. All day today I've found myself aggressively flexing my muscles hard just because I like the feeling of it. It's like I'm itching to go pump some heavy iron.

No acne or oily hair, but like I said it's only the 6th day. I'll be sure to note that stuff if I observe it later on.
 
Is there any way to know the 1/2 life of whatever is the testosterone stuff? Is it like an ester we can talk about or what? I mean - how do you measure the degree of androgenic or anabolic effect of this stuff? It takes at least a week & a half to feel the effects of even a very low dose of anavar.
 
And the ever-present question when we talk about hormone therapy -- how does it interact w/ or affect birth control?
 
Sassy69 said:
Is there any way to know the 1/2 life of whatever is the testosterone stuff? Is it like an ester we can talk about or what? I mean - how do you measure the degree of androgenic or anabolic effect of this stuff? It takes at least a week & a half to feel the effects of even a very low dose of anavar.

No it's not an ester. More like a prohormone I believe in that it is converted into androgens in your bloodstream.

The sponsor states the product will keep your T levels elevated for a while even after you've discontinued use of the product. Whether that's true or not is unknown since I'm not aware of any 3rd party lab testing yet to confirm that. If it is true though that would make negotiating virilizing sides tricky. I think I may take the sponsor's advice in the above post and do two week on/two week off cycles.

Regarding BC, I use an IUD as it's not an issue for me, but that is a good question for the sponsor.
 
Sassy69 said:
Is there any way to know the 1/2 life of whatever is the testosterone stuff? Is it like an ester we can talk about or what? I mean - how do you measure the degree of androgenic or anabolic effect of this stuff? It takes at least a week & a half to feel the effects of even a very low dose of anavar.


Well the ingredients are on the page so you can research each of them individually;

DHEA
Pregnenalone
Resveratrol
Benzoflavone
Chrysin

Those are the active ingredients, rest is the transdermal formula. The only real new thing with the formula is that you are getting the DHEA and Chrysin topically instead of orally, and both are much more effective transdermally, also they convert to other things as they pass through the skin
 
We see that when users drop the dermacrine their levels drop within 2-3 days but still stay above baseline for at least several weeks. In a woman, the same thing would happen. Ie. Androgens would rise, and then fall back close to baseline within a few days of stopping. We say T levels “stay elevated” rather than “suppressed”…. Since the T levels don’t stay in the super-physiological range… but don’t drop to the sub-physiological range either

As far as birth control and dermacrine… my theory on this is simple. AR + ER receptor activation will cause more fat and muscle gain than AR alone. As in, the wieght gain from birth control would be greatly magnified but the concurrent use of an androgen. If a woman is looking for fat loss, she shouldn’t be using androgens with an estrogenic type drugs (birth control). This would essential make the androgen cycle a “bulking” cycle rather than a potential “cutting” cycle. An analogy would be the difference between winny and anadrol.

Im not sure about the effectiveness of birth control while using steroids though…

-Pp
 
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