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2/4 Super Bowl XLI Chicago vs Indianapolis

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Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts will meet Rex Grossman and the Chicago Bears on Sunday, February 4 in Super Bowl XLI at Dolphin Stadium in Miami.

Oddsmakers currently have the Colts listed as 7-point favorites versus the Bears, while the game's total is sitting at 49.

The Colts defeated New England 38-34 in the AFC Championship Game as a 3.5-point favorite last time out. The combined score went OVER the posted over/under total (47).

Manning completed 27-of-47 passes for 349 yards with a touchdown and an interception, while also running in for a score. Dallas Clark led Indianapolis with six catches for 137 yards and Joseph Addai rushed for 56 yards on 14 carries with a touchdown.

The Bears defeated New Orleans 39-14 as a 3-point favorite in the NFC Championship Game. The combined score went OVER the posted over/under total (42.5).

Thomas Jones rushed for 123 yards on only 19 carries and found the end zone twice for Chicago in the win. Grossman completed 11-of-26 passes for 144 yards with a touchdown and Bernard Berrian caught five passes for 85 yards and a touchdown.


Regular season records:
Indianapolis: 12-4 SU, 8-8 ATS
Chicago: 13-3 SU, 10-6 ATS
 
I had a 2.3 million limit before
so I wanted to beat that
and I want the "awe in" winners to move to the top of the "most won on an event" list
 
Waiting a lil bit before this one. Hopefully it'll be a replay of their last meeting. But I'll still be happy no matter who wins since they are my 2 fav and local teams.
 
suaveyankees said:
all my money on the bears
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That's prolly how it's going to end up w/ me but I need to contemplate a bit more w/ that spread....

Bears are going to win, no doubt, but the spread.....
 
I need just one + all in to topple hammy
then we're having the parade
 
Did you make a note of the record? I know you went over 30 million just before the NFC Championship game started.
 
30 million something
that's it
two big games loaded up on
that's the peak
unless the whole baord bets the super bowl

then we having a parade
 
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r u going to do any alternate spreads? I'll wait my k is low so i have to make this one count or cough up some $. thanks
 
motodawg said:
r u going to do any alternate spreads? I'll wait my k is low so i have to make this one count or cough up some $. thanks
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I doubt it
this spread isn't going to 5.5 or 7.5
6.5 is it
 
Oooooooooooooooooooooo.... I just might have to go all in on the bears.... Too bad the spread isn't 7.5

Whiskey
 
i might do the colts later this week
 
HumanTarget said:
the NFC vs. AFC folly. i do like the Colts, though.....
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yeah you gotta like the colts, but you have to wonder which offense is going to show up. Same goes for chicago. Although i think the colts want it more.
 
Dude I just want to see peyton cry like he always does.
 
New to the karma bookie...I was trying to bet but couldnt do it...Need some pointers,please as to how to place a bet
tx
 
Nobledude said:
New to the karma bookie...I was trying to bet but couldnt do it...Need some pointers,please as to how to place a bet
tx
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just type in the amount you want on the side you want
you can't bet more karma than you have
bet it all and then I'll give you a full hit

I'm not spreading hits on the last event until people are commited
 
never mind noble
I thought you only had 10 grand or so
I'm passing out 3300 karma hits as peeps make their bets
doesn't matter how much you bet
you can only bet once
for the finale you don't get to use my K hits to bet against me
 
This game could go either way. I think Manning will have a tough time with the Bears defense but I also think Groosman is overated and will choke in such a big game.

Hmmm.
 
alien amp pharm said:
This game could go either way. I think Manning will have a tough time with the Bears defense but I also think Groosman is overated and will choke in such a big game.

Hmmm.
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grossman's performance is not what will determine the game
 
jnuts said:
Interesting... the big money is banking on Manning
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silverfish 1772093
hotzie 700000

those two Indy bets are the margin
there's a few heavy hitters still to weigh in
 
When the bet is settled, everyone who bet on the winning side gets their Karma back and also their winnings, in this case Bet * 0.9. For example, someone having bet 1,000 would receive 1,900. It is automatically credited to your K Hits and you'll not get any notification.
 
blut wump said:
When the bet is settled, everyone who bet on the winning side gets their Karma back and also their winnings, in this case Bet * 0.9. For example, someone having bet 1,000 would receive 1,900. It is automatically credited to your K Hits and you'll not get any notification.
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I understand this part....but I was wondering how could 4everhung make a profit as he is playing the bookmaker...I seems to me that the game seem a bit unbalanced as most of the money are bet on COLTS...Could the spread be adjusted so more bets would be drawn towards BEARS?

It seems that there is a big gap....unless Bears wins or loses within the spread, 4everhung may lose a lot of k...anyway, I think that the bookie forum is a cool one...congrats to those who take the plunge/risk and play bookmaker!
Tx

PS. Do you guys do only spread pts? How about moneyline bets?
 
There are still many millions of K to come on this event.

If the betting were to stop now then Hung loses K if the Colt win by at least a TD. In a few days time, I expect that he'll be hoping the Colts win by at least a TD.

The betting software does allow for the changing of odds as you describe but that action is reserved for mods. Hung can't change the event once he's created it.

Earlier in the season, he did Jets @ Green Bay as moneyline and Giants @ Bears. There could yet be a moneyline event on the SB.

Heavily uneven betting is the bane of a bookie. It tends to work out in the long haul but it does open up the bookie to alarming wins and losses on a string of good or bad luck.
 
blut wump said:
There are still many millions of K to come on this event.

If the betting were to stop now then Hung loses K if the Colt win by at least a TD. In a few days time, I expect that he'll be hoping the Colts win by at least a TD.

The betting software does allow for the changing of odds as you describe but that action is reserved for mods. Hung can't change the event once he's created it.

Earlier in the season, he did Jets @ Green Bay as moneyline and Giants @ Bears. There could yet be a moneyline event on the SB.
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Is there a cap? Can Hung decides to cap it at a certain amount of bets?
 
If Hung were to adjust the spread , lets say + 10/-10, it may attract more punters towards BEARS, thus loses can be minimized by getting a more balanced book....even though winnings wont potentially be as big as before....but this is a long haul game and small wins are acceptable as well as small losses...

Question:
If Hung were able to adjust the spread as I mentioned before, wont this be a disadvantage for those who already bet on the +6.5/-6.5 spread? How does really the adjustment work?
Tx
 
He can't change the event at all once he's created it. He can't even close it early.

His only creative option is to make another, extra, event.
 
blut wump said:
He can't change the event at all once he's created it. He can't even close it early.

His only creative option is to make another, extra, event.
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My question was only hypothetically as I was wondering how the spread adjustment works ....Lets say bookmakers decide to change the spread from +6.5/-6.5 to +10/-10 spread....wouldnt this be unfair for those who previously bet on the originally spread?
 
its ok. Because Da bEars are going to win. all you colts fans are making our resident bookie a rich man
 
Nobledude said:
My question was only hypothetically as I was wondering how the spread adjustment works ....Lets say bookmakers decide to change the spread from +6.5/-6.5 to +10/-10 spread....wouldnt this be unfair for those who previously bet on the originally spread?
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It depends on how you look at it. I'd suggest that it's not unfair at all. It can be tough, though, as a bookie to see a huge pile-on when you expected even action. As a punter one has to choose to make the bet. One assumes that people bet on odds that they find acceptable.

The spread and odds in the "real world" will shift to reflect betting trends. Any correlation between betting trends and the result of a game is often only wishful thinking.
 
blut wump said:
There are still many millions of K to come on this event.

If the betting were to stop now then Hung loses K if the Colt win by at least a TD. In a few days time, I expect that he'll be hoping the Colts win by at least a TD.

The betting software does allow for the changing of odds as you describe but that action is reserved for mods. Hung can't change the event once he's created it.

Earlier in the season, he did Jets @ Green Bay as moneyline and Giants @ Bears. There could yet be a moneyline event on the SB.

Heavily uneven betting is the bane of a bookie. It tends to work out in the long haul but it does open up the bookie to alarming wins and losses on a string of good or bad luck.
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well put
over the long hual I'll tend to win more "pile-ons" than I lose
but in the short term I can get wiped out
I got wiped out 3 times in the first season until the college bowl season of '05
then Imade some bank on the bowls capped off with a big win on Texas over USC
recently I was holding a decent stash but still could have been wiped out with the large limits
the NFL playoffs have been brutal to the public and the somewhat suprising Florida victory(TD underdog) made me rich in the past 6 weeks

I'm going to see how my total stands after the superbowl and then return half my karma to the pool after I put away in bonds the 1.8 million swole loaned me
 
I'm also considering doing a moneyline on the superbowl on about friday or saturday
I'm not getting involved with the "side-show" esoteric prop events such as which RB gains the most yards etc.
and I'm not doing a total either
sawastea has a total option up albeit with only a 10,000 limit
but hey 10,000 is 10,000 and that's a lot for many people so if they like to bet the total it's out there
 
blut wump said:
He can't change the event at all once he's created it. He can't even close it early.

His only creative option is to make another, extra, event.
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that's what truly keeps it interesting for me
I have three sites I watch for my lines and one is an overseas site in australia that's a UK site clone
they're about 7 hours ahead and a sophisticated clientale so I get spread moves earlier than the US sites and they are reliable
that is the UK/aussie site doesn't cheat the odds like many US sites,bodog in particular

for the superbowl I saw 6.5 in a couple of places and I doubt it's going to either 5.5 or 7.5 so I put the 6.5 out there early to generate speculation and get the "talk" started early
as you know even numbers suck because noone wins if the final falls on the even number
e.g. if Indy is favored by 7 and wins 28-21,noone wins

still though I won't move a line off an even number unless I see it posted at reputable site
 
4everhung said:
that's what truly keeps it interesting for me
I have three sites I watch for my lines and one is an overseas site in australia that's a UK site clone
they're about 7 hours ahead and a sophisticated clientale so I get spread moves earlier than the US sites and they are reliable
that is the UK/aussie site doesn't cheat the odds like many US sites,bodog in particular

for the superbowl I saw 6.5 in a couple of places and I doubt it's going to either 5.5 or 7.5 so I put the 6.5 out there early to generate speculation and get the "talk" started early
as you know even numbers suck because noone wins if the final falls on the even number
e.g. if Indy is favored by 7 and wins 28-21,noone wins

still though I won't move a line off an even number unless I see it posted at reputable site
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Moneyline bet would be interesting I am all for it....get it going bud..
Can you post those Ausie sites?/
 
I love the bears they are my 2nd favorite team next to the colts but they may see a repeat of the last meeting in 04 where they got smoked 41-10.
 
4everhung said:
that's what truly keeps it interesting for me
I have three sites I watch for my lines and one is an overseas site in australia that's a UK site clone
they're about 7 hours ahead and a sophisticated clientale so I get spread moves earlier than the US sites and they are reliable
that is the UK/aussie site doesn't cheat the odds like many US sites,bodog in particular

for the superbowl I saw 6.5 in a couple of places and I doubt it's going to either 5.5 or 7.5 so I put the 6.5 out there early to generate speculation and get the "talk" started early
as you know even numbers suck because noone wins if the final falls on the even number
e.g. if Indy is favored by 7 and wins 28-21,noone wins

still though I won't move a line off an even number unless I see it posted at reputable site
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I almost opened an account yesterday but because I have been asked so many damn personal questions I decided to butt out....

Why do you say that BODOG cheats? How do they do it?
 
Nobledude said:
Is this a safe/reliable site? I wanna bet a few Gs on the SB game and I need a good ,reliable site...
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I can't help you with that as I don't bet
judging just from what I've observed over 2+ years of canbet
the lines and payouts
I'd give them the thumbs up
it's an experienced crowd they cater to
look at all the options
cricket for christ's sakes
all tiers of pro soccer
it's definately not a sham site and they have really good prices/odds
probably the best
mostly a basic -107 on a straight bet
bodog at times will make you pay -115 or even -120 to play the same team with the same spread
 
4everhung said:
I can't help you with that as I don't bet
judging just from what I've observed over 2+ years of canbet
the lines and payouts
I'd give them the thumbs up
it's an experienced crowd they cater to
look at all the options
cricket for christ's sakes
all tiers of pro soccer
it's definately not a sham site and they have really good prices/odds
probably the best
mostly a basic -107 on a straight bet
bodog at times will make you pay -115 or even -120 to play the same team with the same spread
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I did check it out...I like the fact that it has soccer as I am quite a soccer fan...Indeed the prices are more fair than Bodog.

Tx..and go Colts.
 
dannomight said:
Yep. That one man makes a world of difference on the field.
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does he? or would tommie harris if he wasnt injured for Da bears? or Mike Brown

I think if those 2 were playing on Sunday the spread would be flipped in favor of Chicago
 
still not sure which way to go
 
Wulfgar said:
does he? or would tommie harris if he wasnt injured for Da bears? or Mike Brown

I think if those 2 were playing on Sunday the spread would be flipped in favor of Chicago
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I agree with you there. Or if those two were back for Da Bears and Corey Simon and Mike Doss weren't out for the colts season it might be the same. I'll still be happy with whoever wins. Both teams are local teams for me and my top two favorites but the colts are by far my favorite of the two.
 
809 large and some change on Colts.

Whiskey
 
HumanTarget said:
that's awesome.
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she went in a million
I'm waiting on the 2.4million all in hucksters

I think gjohnson5 has 2.4 left
he was doing good and I think he has a handle on the game
but he won too much and then started to out think himself
now he's about broke
 
4everhung said:
she went in a million
I'm waiting on the 2.4million all in hucksters

I think gjohnson5 has 2.4 left
he was doing good and I think he has a handle on the game
but he won too much and then started to out think himself
now he's about broke
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Are you gonna do a moneyline bet?

I checked out the UK/AUS betting site and after I was all done with registration and such ...I found out that US residents cannot place bets anymore due to the recent US law that forbids on line gambling...
 
4everhung said:
she went in a million
I'm waiting on the 2.4million all in hucksters

I think gjohnson5 has 2.4 left
he was doing good and I think he has a handle on the game
but he won too much and then started to out think himself
now he's about broke
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Much as I hope and expect to win, this could be the last time I see this Karma. I'm still savouring having it. :)
 
4everhung said:
she went in a million
I'm waiting on the 2.4million all in hucksters

I think gjohnson5 has 2.4 left
he was doing good and I think he has a handle on the game
but he won too much and then started to out think himself
now he's about broke
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i'm still debating. lot of the bowls have been blowouts.
 
CMarc said:
Most Super Bowls are blowouts.
No Patriots this year. You're overthinking...I think.
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I don't think the pats ever were in a blowout superbowl since 85 when Da Bears blew their asses out of the water. Plus they keep losing or letting talent go.
 
Subzeero said:
The biggest bets are obviously still to come. Still waiting.
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most people betting on the colts are ether fans or people going on the assumption that most superbowls are a blow out and think the colts have a better chance to be the team doing all the scoring.

lets think about this.the bears d.is it good.hell fucking ya its really good the best this year out of any team.
the colts d is it good.meh they can be but the pats scored on them no probs in the first have of the last game and they dont have much to even score with sept brady's arm.

the bears offense is it good.no its shit but they dont have to be great as long as they score a few they will be fine
the colts offense is it good.yup its the best there is right now.but it still has week points.manning is no super hero he is like any other qb out there get at him sack him and give him no time and he will fuck up.can the bears do that.you bet your ass they can better then any team can.

so its bears d vs colts o with the bears getting 6.5 here.hmmmm colts could not even beet the fucking pats d by more then 4 its a pretty good bet they might not beet the bears d up by more then that. :)
 
CMarc said:
Most Super Bowls are blowouts.
No Patriots this year. You're overthinking...I think.
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I had the right side for about 9 years consecutive
starting in '84 when the Raiders blew out the Redskins 38-21 I think
then the NFC took control and ruled the super bowl until 1988
and the boomer esiason led bengals faced the montana led 49ers as 7 point underdogs
one of the best superbowls ever
montana led his team in the last 2 minutes to a game winnings scoring drive
20-16
the bengals covered the spread
I had Cincinnati plus the seven
 
needtogetas said:
were is all the money going on this game 4ever.
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I don't know
I saw the released spread of 7
waited to find the 6.5
and then put it out there
my opinion
which I shouldn't share
you're rolling the dice in this one
 
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