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I know this is going to get some heated responses but I have to ask.........(serious question)

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Maverick

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I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?

the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body ?

I am just curious, please answer with a serious response.

flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway.
 
Your asking for drama just stick to the C & C board. What is the juicer crowd? Didn't know that they had there own crowd.
 
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mookie said:
Your asking for drama just stick to the C & C board. What is the juicer crowd? Didn't know that they had there own crowd.
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I think the juicer crowd refers to the people who make elitist statements like ''stick to the C @ C board".
 
Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?
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Health problems thats funny were you geting your info at? Crackerjack box..At 40 i have no health issues whats so ever! People everyday want to look like me that are half my age! I am bigger,stronger and my sex life just keeps geting better and better... Hell maybe if you get layed yourself sometime you wouldnt have time to post up dump questions about shit you dont have a clue on! In the real world when your big everyone wants to be your friend!
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Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?

the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body ?

I am just curious, please answer with a serious response.

flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway.
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You obviously know NOTHING about AAS. do some real homework and quit listening to the ignorant public and media talk about a subject they know nothing about.

Threads like this just spread the ignorance.
 
I do them cause I wanna die young, and I live on the edge..... I also can't get chicks any other way...... Don't post gay posts dude...... I got a question.... What the fuck is the C & C board? And why do these dudes keep coming here to fuck with us? Is there some kind of Board War I don't know about? Someone tell me.....

rizz
 
come on dude, have you done any research? As for the people you know with serious health issues, I'd say the difference betweet use and abuse could be a cause. You also never know what underlying issues were there. The only bad thing I've noticed after a handful of cycles is male patern baldness. BUT if you look at my mother, it obviously isn't the juice. The juice may speed up the process, but it is inevitable for me. Why do people drink, smoke pot, do coke? Because it is "FUN". By far steroids are the most fun drug I've ever done. I like it I guess. Give it a try then come back, you'll say man I've been missing out this shit is awesome.
 
Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?

the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body? I am just curious, please answer with a serious response.

flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway.
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I would like to know what "serious health issue" the the people that you know have had?????????
 
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Prizz said:
I do them cause I wanna die young, and I live on the edge..... I also can't get chicks any other way...... Don't post gay posts dude...... I got a question.... What the fuck is the C & C board? And why do these dudes keep coming here to fuck with us? Is there some kind of Board War I don't know about? Someone tell me.....

rizz
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A long time ago the ana and Chat boards were almost one in the same, people posted on both. When the ANA board decayed into the same 15 questions being recycled over and over again*a lot of people started posting primarily on the Chat board. Since then various people have posted derrogatory comments on the juice board from the ANA board. Some have been provoked by posts talking about how the chat board is stupid. Some I'm sure have been unprovoked. Events like when RADAR got into a pissing match with Lestat and the anabolic board ignorantly defended RADAR to the ends of the earth widened the gap. The board war is nothing but people being polarized to think one board is better than the other.

*The same 15 posts being recycled over and over again started around the time the non plat search feature was reduced from poor to fucking worthless.
 
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Prizz said:
I do them cause I wanna die young, and I live on the edge..... I also can't get chicks any other way...... Don't post gay posts dude...... I got a question.... What the fuck is the C & C board? And why do these dudes keep coming here to fuck with us? Is there some kind of Board War I don't know about? Someone tell me.....

rizz
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C&C is just a chat board here and the issue of harassment is being dealt with.
 
Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?

the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body ?

I am just curious, please answer with a serious response.

flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway.
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What a stupid question! The only side effect Ive noticed from my steroid use is that I can bang YOUR g/f much longer and more frequently while you're at work.

Are you a fucking Newfie bro?
 
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dale_gribble said:
What a stupid question! The only side effect Ive noticed from my steroid use is that I can bang YOUR g/f much longer and more frequently while you're at work.

Are you a fucking Newfie bro?
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Are you on cycle?
 
because man is never satisfied with what he has, it's always the drive to want more. why do people trick their cars out to go faster?? speed kills. I know for a fact more people die from car accidents than steroid usage every year. they do it because they aren't satisfied, they want more than the run of the mill stock driving experience than every other ordinary "joe" has. i'm sure there is some facet of your life that you've not been satisfied with that you've given up time and money to make better. do you drink?? drinking is by far worse than juicing. why do you do it?? because you want a release from the everyday life we all lead with all the BS that goes with it. just because you don't use or don't understand those that do, you have no place to be judgmental or make statements that you have no basis on backing up. people are different. some like coke, some like tobacco, what ever your flavor is, it's your choice, your body. do other people juicing hurt you?? last time I checked we were free to make our own choices, while they may not agree with you line of thinking, guess what, your not perfect either.
 
Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?

the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body ?

I am just curious, please answer with a serious response.

flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway.
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My self esteem is just fine, is your? I don't have the need to ask ridiculous questions without doing research. I'm not a professional bodybuilder. At my weight I just want to get in prime physical condition.

I found a way to help me get into the best shape of my life and you have the audacity to question it?

Do you go over there to ask those Richard Simmons diet freaks why they do those ridiculous videos or take diet aids like Meridia and Phentermine? Those are drugs, that when taken, alter the composition of the body. Those are not healthy for us as the industry leads you to think. Read this next sentence, kid.

ANYTHING DONE IN EXCESS WILL CAUSE DAMAGE TO YOUR BODY!!

If you drink two gallons of orange juice a day it's not that good for you. If you somehow could manage to choke down 50 of those TV dinners the sodium content alone spells doom. Have you any idea the NATIONAL ratio of obese to non-obese people are in this country? 2:1!!! That's right, TWO to ONE. This country's putting itself at risk by consuming products (again in EXCESS) that lead to heart disease, hypertension, diabetes and a host of other health issues. These products are on every shelf of the stores, available in every drive-thru of every fast food chain and delivered in 30 minutes or less in an oily, hot box.

In actuality, THEY are doing more of this purported harm to their bodies than anyone that uses AAS. Collectively there is more knowlegde of human physiology, kinesiology, biochemistry and psychology here than in 70% of the US medical schools.

Why? In one word, research. I'm not asking us all to evaluate coffee or each meal, but perhaps we should.

Your attitude is reflective of the growing consensus among those who criticize without evidence, judge without knowledge and assume more often than you should. Combined with stereotyping/pre-conceived notions you fit the description of a word we all know very well:

PREJUDICED

Without knowledge there is ignorance. That leads to misundertandings that manifest into fear and ultimately hatred. Hatred compels you to seek out other that share your contorted views and together you form a collective knowledge base of misinformation that form the impetus behind your views.

I urge you, do research. Read a book on the subject. Get to know someone that walks this path instead of assuming the worst. AAS uses are everywhere young man. If you don't like steroid users turn of professional sports immediately.

But please, stop turning off your mind.
 
I have had 3X elevated ALT/AST liver enzymes 3 weeks out from competing. A little acne....oh and very tiny balls and I am 37yo now and a national level competitor. I have known a couple folks that had minor problems but you must realize I run in the upper level crowd so the use is much higher. I do doubt the people you know had their health problems arise from gear use. the people I know run 5 grams a week for months at a time.


Q.
 
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If you want honest unbiased answers, don't ask slanted questions and follow them with a dismissal of anyone who may take issue with your questions before they even reply.

You're not looking for answers, you're looking for drama. There's plenty of "juicers" on the C&C board. Ask them.
 
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stuck said:
If you want honest unbiased answers, don't ask slanted questions and follow them with a dismissal of anyone who may take issue with your questions before they even reply.

You're not looking for answers, you're looking for drama. There's plenty of "juicers" on the C&C board. Ask them.
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He did, and he's getting the same kind of response there.

And don't h8 the C&C board, we're not all bad over there.
 
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StickFigure said:
He did, and he's getting the same kind of response there.

And don't h8 the C&C board, we're not all bad over there.
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I don't. Lots of good bros over there, most of which came from here, hence my comment.
 
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stuck said:
I don't. Lots of good bros over there, most of which came from here, hence my comment.
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gotcha, my misunderstanding. :beer:
 
Watch the hbo segment and educate yourself before making ignorant statments and asumptions. Don't beleive the media witchhunt its all bullshit. Aas is beneficial for health adult males. Like cboogsrun states its the difference between responsible use and ABUSE!... that's probably the cause.

Watch this and take the cotton out of your ears and stick it in your mouth.
http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv
 
Quadsweep said:
I have had 3X elevated ALT/AST liver enzymes 3 weeks out from competing. A little acne....oh and very tiny balls and I am 37yo now and a national level competitor. I have known a couple folks that had minor problems but you must realize I run in the upper level crowd so the use is much higher. I do doubt the people you know had their health problems arise from gear use. the people I know run 5 grams a week for months at a time.


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the only issuses i have seen is i have got bigger/stronger/and a dick that is hard as steel.now if your allready have heart problems ,tumors, liver problems etc. before you begin then your asking for trouble. that the only thing i have seen to issuses that become life threatening.But hell your going to die anyway so why not be all you can till then. plus you can abuse anything food,drugs,whiskey,prescripton med. (folks die )from over doing it and allready health problems get your self checked after every cycle and if you have health problems then you are flaming it to begin with.
 
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jagerbombme said:
where is this fucking guy with all the responses to his question. hehe
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he's obviously just trying to stir up some drama. Either that or he figured out quick just how far he stuck his foot in his mouth.
 
Yeah... this guy just looooves the attention. He's not typical of the C & C crowd. There are some really decent people over there.

Hopefully board harassment policies will deal with him.
 
Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?

the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body ?

I am just curious, please answer with a serious response.

flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway.
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Highly doubt that your friends' health problems were aas related unless they SERIOUSLY abused them. That can be said for a countless number of things that are concidered safe though......aspirine, certain vitamins, potasium, various foods, hell even water. I know a lot of guys who use higher amounts of gear then most with only minor sides. They have using aas for a LONG time. Some over 20 years.

As for the rest of your questions, just the way you phrased them says that you already have a predetermined idea of steroid users and aren't interested in actually knowing why people use steroids. It's obvious that you know little or nothing about aas. Perhaps you should do some research before you coming to any conclusions.

BTW, I think it's funny how you claim to not care about your karma. If you didn't care, then why would you bother to replenish if get bombed? Why would you bother to bring it up in the first place???

This is just a childish attempt to stir up some drama. The sad part is that it would have been a great question had it been asked by someone who was actually interested in learning.

Apexx
 
Why? Because I am 35 and my testosterone levels were low and now I feel like I am on top of the world whether I am or not. My mood is greatly enhanced to the positive, because of that the people around me are happier. I get a million more things done in a day than I used to. My mental aquity is much sharper. My g/f is in heaven over after an almost non-existent sex drive and the cherry on top is that people that throw comments around like you must have a low self esteem, low self confidence are even more jealous because they do not have a body that attracts the women and to compensate for that they must post silly threads. Go get your number fives and do a few curls but dont hurt yourself. Keep trying to convince the women we are a troubled group. We will say nothing with CONFIDENCE and flex a couple times and see which one she picks.
 
maybe this guy is just tryna start some shit, but to say that gear isnt harmful to your body is kind of ridiculous. it can cause high blood pressure, lead to stroke, sever depression, gyno, baldness, and probably much more bad shit, even if the proper precautions are taken. how come everyone got so fucking defensive? i do them cause i wanted to be faster for football, and i like looking good. you just have to ask yourself if the if the ends justify the means. for me, they do.
 
dale_gribble said:
Are you a fucking Newfie bro?
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No...he's Canadian!! (sorry for my good Canadian bors)

Maverick, go talk shit in the POM board and leave the Gear forum for the real men. Capiche?
:Chef: :tuc:
 
you put dipset in your title you bastart. dipset bitch. i don't drink or do drugs. i love to workout, i'm on ronnie coleman but i attain the goals i want to with aas use responsibly. my doctor knows and thinks i am perfectly healthy except when i ran dbol and had 140 over 100 bp he was mad about that. i am addicted to the gym the pumps all of it, aas amplifies it and its the poison i choose, i sit around and watch these people spend 100 a night on drinking and shit it craps me up personally i think aas is way healthier
 
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stuck said:
I don't. Lots of good bros over there, most of which came from here, hence my comment.
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'sup broham? :Chef: :tuc:
 
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off_safety said:
maybe this guy is just tryna start some shit, but to say that gear isnt harmful to your body is kind of ridiculous. it can cause high blood pressure, lead to stroke, sever depression, gyno, baldness, and probably much more bad shit, even if the proper precautions are taken. how come everyone got so fucking defensive? i do them cause i wanted to be faster for football, and i like looking good. you just have to ask yourself if the if the ends justify the means. for me, they do.
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Refer back to post #17, there is a big difference between USE and ABUSE.
 
I might drop a bomb on this shitbag. He's always got something smart to say....Why hasn't he responded to anyone?
:Chef: :tuc:
 
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chefbone said:
I might drop a bomb on this shitbag. He's always got something smart to say....Why hasn't he responded to anyone?
:Chef: :tuc:
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case of classic "foot-in-mouth" disease!


And btw, PM me and I'll pay half
 
why don't u ask radar, i think he is 52 or so and on tren ace all the time, he uses responsbibly. better yet go talk to arnold who will be 60 soon, he ate dbol for breakfast for a long time, sly stallone, 59 also juiced his balls off still probably is. sorry bro but you just can't prove it to me, only abuse will get me to agree
 
Gentlemen, Gentlemen, Gentlemen.. Let me sum this up for you..

This guy HAS to have an excuse when he's out at the beach with his 'soon-to-be-lady' and he catches her staring at us. Come on Maverick, say it with me now..

"Eh, he's juicing, that's the only reason he looks like that.. Besides, you know what they say about juicers, they have small dicks.."

Hey man, whatever excuses you need to explain why you're built like an ethiopian is up to you.. Just don't pull a Columbine on us when you catch one of us boning your 'soon-to-be-girl' in the car you just bought her.... OK?

T-Matt
 
off_safety said:
maybe this guy is just tryna start some shit, but to say that gear isnt harmful to your body is kind of ridiculous. it can cause high blood pressure, lead to stroke, sever depression, gyno, baldness, and probably much more bad shit, even if the proper precautions are taken. how come everyone got so fucking defensive? i do them cause i wanted to be faster for football, and i like looking good. you just have to ask yourself if the if the ends justify the means. for me, they do.
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Is it possible to suffer some serious health even with proper precautions, yes. Anything is possible. However, is it reasonable to assume, no. Steroids are prescribed by dr's every day to patients with failing health. That in itself proves that if taken moderately with the correct precautions, steroids can actually improves someones personal health. Gyno and baldness are hardly serious medical conditions. I know that depression can have an effect on one's health such as lowering their immune system. Still, IMO depression is not a serious medical condition. As for bp and stroke, both risks can be minimalized if not completely wiped out with proper precautions and correct cycling.
Like I posted earlier, steroids can be dangerous if abused. So can many other things. It is not reasonable to assume that if some uses aas regardless of precautions, they will suffer serious medical conditions.

I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest with you, I know we're on the same side bro. Just tring to point out that under the right circumstances, aas use is actually very safe.
 
Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?

the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body ?

I am just curious, please answer with a serious response.

flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway.
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My theory is Low Self Esteem, Wanting to be talked about or looked at as the biggest dude in the bar (to show it off), To fit in with athletes, the quest for a perfect body, professional athletics, have small dicks, want to pick up chicks, and some people just like doing drugs because theyre "fun" Lmfoa. I compete professionally and have used rarely for sports related injuries but I also make a living in sports and pay my bills by doing so and also have a chance for stardom. If people want to futher their physique you cant question it, and to each his own but in my experiences it was always the skinny, non athletic, non popular kids from school that desire to be somebody and this is a means of self confidence for alot of people. At the same time many many many athletes use it to enhance performance even female athletes. To me if you have no plans, goals, or not competing in athletics, or to strenghten an injury theres no need for it. If youre pounding Dbol and hitting arms 5 days a week so you can roll your sleeves up or so you can take pictures of your back in the mirror then its just plain stupid. Even in all the hard work and dieting in bodybuilding and what is it done for a damn trophy? But it's still competing, I just hate the competitions held at the bar on the weekends... Any true athlete, bodybuilder, fighter does show what he got at Tequila frog's on Saturday night. Genetics play a major part as well, if your genetics are shit you better get to work on AAS. As far as side effects, Balding, enlarged heart, high blood pressure, Etc are some. But in many instances in your 40's and 50's AAS can be beneficial. Touchy subject especially on this board dude but I think you know the answers in your head, just dont say them out loud on this board.
 
totally agree about the guys at bars. but a lot of the guys who are really jacked that i know don't really flaunt it and are pretty successful people and they are far from insecure, nor were they dorks in h.s. now i get 20 pms a day from people like that, but guys i know just like lifting and juicing plain and simple. can you elaborate on the enlarged heart please. i have one but was told it was from all the sports i played.
heavyweightchamp said:
My theory is Low Self Esteem, Wanting to be talked about or looked at as the biggest dude in the bar (to show it off), To fit in with athletes, the quest for a perfect body, professional athletics, have small dicks, want to pick up chicks, and some people just like doing drugs because theyre "fun" Lmfoa. I compete professionally and have used rarely for sports related injuries but I also make a living in sports and pay my bills by doing so and also have a chance for stardom. If people want to futher their physique you cant question it, and to each his own but in my experiences it was always the skinny, non athletic, non popular kids from school that desire to be somebody and this is a means of self confidence for alot of people. At the same time many many many athletes use it to enhance performance even female athletes. To me if you have no plans, goals, or not competing in athletics, or to strenghten an injury theres no need for it. If youre pounding Dbol and hitting arms 5 days a week so you can roll your sleeves up or so you can take pictures of your back in the mirror then its just plain stupid. Even in all the hard work and dieting in bodybuilding and what is it done for a damn trophy? But it's still competing, I just hate the competitions held at the bar on the weekends... Any true athlete, bodybuilder, fighter does show what he got at Tequila frog's on Saturday night. Genetics play a major part as well, if your genetics are shit you better get to work on AAS. As far as side effects, Balding, enlarged heart, high blood pressure, Etc are some. But in many instances in your 40's and 50's AAS can be beneficial. Touchy subject especially on this board dude but I think you know the answers in your head, just dont say them out loud on this board.
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Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?

the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body ?

I am just curious, please answer with a serious response.

flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway.
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Listen "Top Gun"

I'd tell you to go back to C&C, - but they don't want you either.

Every post you make is just an irritating Bleeding-Heart / Propoganda-Driven nuisance.

You need to shake that "Deer in the Headlights" vibe you always give off.

You say you would never fight for your Country, and that you're glad you don't have to where you are. You disagree with any type of Foreign Affair issue that doesn't involve kissing and making up, YET you got your handle from a Cold-War themed movie.

I mean this from the bottom of my heart when I say "Grow up Kid - I know the world looks like a big scary place, but stop hiding here - go outside"
 
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T-Matt said:
Gentlemen, Gentlemen, Gentlemen.. Let me sum this up for you..

This guy HAS to have an excuse when he's out at the beach with his 'soon-to-be-lady' and he catches her staring at us. Come on Maverick, say it with me now..

"Eh, he's juicing, that's the only reason he looks like that.. Besides, you know what they say about juicers, they have small dicks.."

Hey man, whatever excuses you need to explain why you're built like an ethiopian is up to you.. Just don't pull a Columbine on us when you catch one of us boning your 'soon-to-be-girl' in the car you just bought her.... OK?

T-Matt
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Thanks for fueling the bad-rap AAS users already have.

Stupid Fuk
 
mav your on missle lock, firing. ahh gotcha. everyone bomb this little piss ant, i gaurantee the c and c peeps will not replenish his precious k. lol
 
Yeah I have one as well and it's caused from access blood flow unnatural to your valves that actually grow the heart in order to support the blood to that area, just like arms, chest, back growing. I was told mine was from sports as well but I was also 273 lbs at the time and using. Arnold had about 5 triple by pass surgery's from enlarged heart conditions and Im guessing it wasnt from running for Gov. of Cali if you know what I mean. It's important to always get regular blood tests and any regular check ups if your going to use AAS, I think people over look that. And some people just like lifting and juicing plain and simple, well they have to have some image in their head of why they are doing it, it's not like they are watering the lawn bro. Im saying all that hard work in my opinion with no goals, plans, or reason other than getting compliments from other people and being jacked gotta get boring and thats why you see guys that have money to get AAS got to the gym and soon as they get off of juice or get bored with it are nowhere to be found. I have to train, I really dont want to but it's 2 totally different types of training.
 
bruce410 said:
mav your on missle lock, firing. ahh gotcha. everyone bomb this little piss ant, i gaurantee the c and c peeps will not replenish his precious k. lol
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I g-bombed that shitstick. He won't reply to theis thread again...he's a sissy.
:Chef: :tuc:
 
well i'm a boxing fanatic and i assume you are a fighter. do you think that a few light cycles could have caused my enlarged heart. i had only dabbled with win and a bit of deca back when it was prescribed
heavyweightchamp said:
Yeah I have one as well and it's caused from access blood flow unnatural to your valves that actually grow the heart in order to support the blood to that area, just like arms, chest, back growing. I was told mine was from sports as well but I was also 273 lbs at the time and using. Arnold had about 5 triple by pass surgery's from enlarged heart conditions and Im guessing it wasnt from running for Gov. of Cali if you know what I mean. It's important to always get regular blood tests and any regular check ups if your going to use AAS, I think people over look that. And some people just like lifting and juicing plain and simple, well they have to have some image in their head of why they are doing it, it's not like they are watering the lawn bro. Im saying all that hard work in my opinion with no goals, plans, or reason other than getting compliments from other people and being jacked gotta get boring and thats why you see guys that have money to get AAS got to the gym and soon as they get off of juice or get bored with it are nowhere to be found. I have to train, I really dont want to but it's 2 totally different types of training.
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nuthinbutagoodtym said:
Thanks for fueling the bad-rap AAS users already have.

Stupid Fuk
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LOL! It has nothing to do with AAS users and everything to do with alpha-males of society.. Wooooo-saaaaaaaaa.. remember youre pressure points.. Calm down little one.. Lay off the cheque drops and try some oxytocin..

T-Matt
 
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This herb doesn't even deserve a response because he's asking this question on purpose to get a rise out of every "juicehead". It's the only fun he gets in his life. That's why he's a whore at the "Chat and Conversation" board. He has NO LIFE. I think he sits at his computer naked and beats off to the possibility that he might "hook up" with some hot chick. "Kip" from Napolean Dynamite gets more ass than this homo.
 
yea that is why we are giving good responses till he won't comment back. keep our cool here and drop it. the bombs are pay back for those 5 days of c and c bomb b.s going on over here. FELLAS LET IT DIE THIS THREAD SUCKS
 
:rolleyes: I hate negativity...I just gave my first ever bad karma to this guy. makes me feel shitty...... " Ahh... well there are some men you just can't reach, which is the way he wants it....well he gets it....I don't like it anymore than you men do....." ( Warden in "COOL HAND LUKE") :rolleyes:


Quadsweep
 
Stop trying to stir everyone up, go get your attention somewhere else. There's
NO REASON for you to be posting with questions like that.
IF you actually know someone with health problems go look at their family history
of health problems. Hell any problem could be from anything who the hell knows
for sure.
You damn sure wouldn't be asking questions like that in person !
Go ask someone at a bar why are they drinking and hurting their liver, you'll get punched in the face. Mind your own damn business and worry about yourself.
 
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juiceddreadlocks said:
*The same 15 posts being recycled over and over again started around the time the non plat search feature was reduced from poor to fucking worthless.
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hear hear
 
I am seriously not trying to start any bullshit with anyone, I wanted to know why you all do steriods.

I think some of you are in denial about the juice not messing with your body though, your trying to tell me that the human body was meant to be enhanced with chemicals ?

I know some of you feel fine, but it may not be the same in the future.

I just want to know why, quit being asses about it
 
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Maverick said:
I am seriously not trying to start any bullshit with anyone, I wanted to know why you all do steriods.

I think some of you are in denial about the juice not messing with your body though, your trying to tell me that the human body was meant to be enhanced with chemicals ?

I know some of you feel fine, but it may not be the same in the future.

I just want to know why, quit being asses about it
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Post up your findings FACTS of the health issues - you won't - end of story.

remember - you MUST stay above the Hard Deck.

Do you miss "Goose"?
 
to improve my health and fitness. to gain muscle and burn fat and gain more endurance and become as athletic as i can so i can live as long as i can with my wife and my kids. lifted natural on and off for 15 years, and lifted solid the last two years and reached a plateau at 29 years old.

from the second day after i injected testosterone i realized my natural test levels had been sinking because i had not seen my cock like that for some 5 years. my wife is loving it. do you understand pal?
 
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Maverick said:
I am seriously not trying to start any bullshit with anyone, I wanted to know why you all do steriods.

I think some of you are in denial about the juice not messing with your body though, your trying to tell me that the human body was meant to be enhanced with chemicals ?

I know some of you feel fine, but it may not be the same in the future.

I just want to know why, quit being asses about it
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You are quite the ignoramus. Alcohol and Food cause more health problems in this WORLD than steroids. Also, they actually have conclusive evidence of Alcohol and Food being directly related to death and disease. Steroids have not been directly related to death EVER. I challenge you to show me proof. Everything has consequences, and for you to act so self-righteous like you never did anything except steal a cookie from grandmas jar is total BS. Do you drink? DO you smoke pot? Take a prescribed medication? How's your diet? Ever have Unprotected anal sex with your pet Llama? And I know youre not some clean cut Christian, becasue we all know Canadians love thier pot and alcohol.
 
I am seriously not trying to start any bullshit with anyone, I wanted to know why you all do steriods.
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Yes you were, and no you don't. You just wanted to try and bash those who do.

I think some of you are in denial about the juice not messing with your body though, your trying to tell me that the human body was meant to be enhanced with chemicals ?
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The human body is is enhanced or effected ALL of the time by chemicals. Ever heard of a little thing called medicine? Whether it's to boost t-cells, help ur blood cell count, fight virus', fight infections, boost immune system, etc, your body is still being altered to be stronger. Taken the correct way, these medications work and are very safe just like steroids. However, if abused, they are very dangerous......just like steroids.

I know some of you feel fine, but it may not be the same in the future.
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Granted, everyone is different. However, I personally know people who have used aas for over 20 years with no major problems. Doctors have been studying the effects of certain steroids for just a long or longer and yet they still prescribe them every day to patients. Apparently the threat of long term problems is very minimal when used with discretion.

I just want to know why, quit being asses about it
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You brought that on yourself by the way you phrased your post. Don't try to come off now as though you "just want to know". It's blatantly obvious that your initial post was offensive to ANYONE who uses steroids.

While I'll admit that most who use steroids do not do it for health reasons, they do it out of vanity. That does not make them immoral. People do things every day out of vanity whether it's getting a certain hair cut, buying certain clothes, car, house, whatever, all because it makes you look good and feel good about yourself. There's nothing wrong with that. You have to learn the difference between use and abuse.
USE......chances are very good there will be no major problems.
ABUSE.......who knows. Even that isn't a guarantee that there will be major problems.
 
apexx you already got in your clean 4000 cals in this thead chompin this little bitch, where is goose his wing man. lol
 
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bruce410 said:
apexx you already got in your clean 4000 cals in this thead chompin this little bitch, where is goose his wing man. lol
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Maybe he's feeling guilty for getting caught in the MIGs jet-Wash, - thus killing Goose.................

I bet he misses him...............
 
I think you did just come over here to rile up people. Maybe you came on a childish dare. In any event you show true ignorance by not at least listening. There's far more chemicals in the food at the local grocery store than an AAS-inspired individual could ever obtain at once. Do more research before you make posts like that. I'm very suprised you haven't been bombed yet.
 
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juiceddreadlocks said:
Are you on cycle?
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Im not on a cycle. I was doing about 1000mg of test a week as well as 100mg of drol a day for about 7 months, but just cut back to 750mg a week about 3 weeks ago. Ill never come juice, and if I do, Ill need some serious HRT!
 
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dale_gribble said:
Im not on a cycle. I was doing about 1000mg of test a week as well as 100mg of drol a day for about 7 months, but just cut back to 750mg a week about 3 weeks ago. Ill never come juice, and if I do, Ill need some serious HRT!
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100mg of A-drol??????????????????????????????
7 Months?
 
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nuthinbutagoodtym said:
100mg of A-drol??????????????????????????????
7 Months?
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Well, I've never claimed to smart :)

I just claim to be big :D

Some people are just a little more reckless than others.
 
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dale_gribble said:
Well, I've never claimed to smart :)

I just claim to be big :D

Some people are just a little more reckless than others.
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How's you liver - SERIOUSLY

7moth oral run of ADrol just doesn't seem right....................
 
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nuthinbutagoodtym said:
How's you liver - SERIOUSLY

7moth oral run of ADrol just doesn't seem right....................
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Liiver is fine, kidney's are fine, sex life is great, size is great.

Word of advice, and Ive heard this from someone with great knowledge about this, dont believe everything you hear about orals.

Your liver isnt going to fall out bro.
 
two things....either he's here just have some fun with meatheads and get em all riled up....or he truly doesn't get why someone wants to take things to the next level. In either case.....seems this forum isn't for him. And he is "deliberately" making confrontational and assertive remarks about steroid use.....it's like asking someone why they're such a cocksucker! Not exactly a question you ask to facilitate an honest debate is it?
 
So you want to know why I do steroids? Well I had cancer and the chemo fucked me up big time. It gave me type 2 diabetes and neuropathy. I did a shit load of research on pubmed and found that it's very common to have low test as a factor with type two diabetes. So I did a test on myself and have cured my diabetes using steroids. I have very good data show the effects of metformin and glyburide compared with testosterone usage. I showed my data to my cousin, he's one of those doctors that flies to third world countries and tries to help out, and he wants me to publish my data. He said it would help a lot of people. I told him that I would be admitting to a felony and didn't think that was a good idea.

I have added other steroids to my self composed treatment plan and have reduced my neuropathy to a very low level. I only feel it maybe one day out of the week and then only for a couple of hours. Not constantly like it used to be. My doctor told me that I would be on morphine for the rest of my life. Now I take a half tab of morphine a day to keep from going into withdrawals. Soon I will be able to quit that as well.

So if you really want to talk about health issues I am a great example of what proper use can do for someone that has undergone traumatic or extremely catabolic disease.

The only down side I have seen is my wife doesn't want me to rest my arm across her in bed anymore. She says it's to heavy. The other day she commented about the veins popping out on my arms. So I guess there is a down side but she loves to rest her head on my shoulder so all is not lost.

It was a little over two years ago that I got off chemo. I have only been using steroids for ten months and have accomplished all of this in that time. I hadn't seen my doc for the first five months of doing steroids. I went in for my appointment and he just said "WOW you look great."
 
Big_Joe said:
So you want to know why I do steroids? Well I had cancer and the chemo fucked me up big time. It gave me type 2 diabetes and neuropathy. I did a shit load of research on pubmed and found that it's very common to have low test as a factor with type two diabetes. So I did a test on myself and have cured my diabetes using steroids. I have very good data show the effects of metformin and glyburide compared with testosterone usage. I showed my data to my cousin, he's one of those doctors that flies to third world countries and tries to help out, and he wants me to publish my data. He said it would help a lot of people. I told him that I would be admitting to a felony and didn't think that was a good idea.

I have added other steroids to my self composed treatment plan and have reduced my neuropathy to a very low level. I only feel it maybe one day out of the week and then only for a couple of hours. Not constantly like it used to be. My doctor told me that I would be on morphine for the rest of my life. Now I take a half tab of morphine a day to keep from going into withdrawals. Soon I will be able to quit that as well.

So if you really want to talk about health issues I am a great example of what proper use can do for someone that has undergone traumatic or extremely catabolic disease.

The only down side I have seen is my wife doesn't want me to rest my arm across her in bed anymore. She says it's to heavy. The other day she commented about the veins popping out on my arms. So I guess there is a down side but she loves to rest her head on my shoulder so all is not lost.

It was a little over two years ago that I got off chemo. I have only been using steroids for ten months and have accomplished all of this in that time. I hadn't seen my doc for the first five months of doing steroids. I went in for my appointment and he just said "WOW you look great."
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Damn Joe.. That was a powerful message man.. That's a true Alpha-Male for you... Most docs would have had you on all these medications that would have, no doubt, lead to a deteriorating health condition, spiraling you to a terrible death.. You took a chance and went against what everyone in society says is 'THE DEVIL' and you made it work for you.

I love it man.. I really do.. Steroids were created to help someone like you.. I want to print this out and show it to anyone who's quick to downtalk AAS

T-Matt
 
Because we are Americans, when we want soemthing we fucking get it. I break shit, and shoot stuff for a living. Why, because we probably want something. We do not sit and play grab ass at the gym, and shoot ourselves with needles, and instantly look good. As Americans, when we want something, we like the quickets route. America Fuck Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
64Pilot said:
Because we are Americans, when we want soemthing we fucking get it. I break shit, and shoot stuff for a living. Why, because we probably want something. We do not sit and play grab ass at the gym, and shoot ourselves with needles, and instantly look good. As Americans, when we want something, we like the quickets route. America Fuck Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL...EXACTLY
 
Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?

the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body ?

I am just curious, please answer with a serious response.

flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway.
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Looks like you know SHIT about roids. I've been using roids for the past 2 1/2 years and i don't have any health problems.
Those people you know who you say have serious health issues from roids, they're Obviously abusers. Because ABUSE of roids is what causes health problems.
 
The worst is when you see some fat ass politician beratying steroids, when you can still see the extra mayo leftover on his tie from ther 4 quarter pounders with cheese he had for lunch
 
Ozz2001 said:
Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?
QUOTE]

Health problems thats funny were you geting your info at? Crackerjack box..At 40 i have no health issues whats so ever! People everyday want to look like me that are half my age! I am bigger,stronger and my sex life just keeps geting better and better... Hell maybe if you get layed yourself sometime you wouldnt have time to post up dump questions about shit you dont have a clue on! In the real world when your big everyone wants to be your friend!
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do you think you will be able to say the same at 50 ?
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Goldprospector said:
I would like to know what "serious health issue" the the people that you know have had?????????
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basically it was liver failure, and the rest of the people I knew had many other medical issues, like high BP etc.......
 
dale_gribble said:
What a stupid question! The only side effect Ive noticed from my steroid use is that I can bang YOUR g/f much longer and more frequently while you're at work.

Are you a fucking Newfie bro?
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nope, and why would you be able to bang my girlfriend ? I am a good looking guy with single digit bodyfat.

no complaints here
 
bruce410 said:
you put dipset in your title you bastart. dipset bitch. i don't drink or do drugs. i love to workout, i'm on ronnie coleman but i attain the goals i want to with aas use responsibly. my doctor knows and thinks i am perfectly healthy except when i ran dbol and had 140 over 100 bp he was mad about that. i am addicted to the gym the pumps all of it, aas amplifies it and its the poison i choose, i sit around and watch these people spend 100 a night on drinking and shit it craps me up personally i think aas is way healthier
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you need a hug or a role model or something
 
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Maverick said:
you need a hug or a role model or something
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first off - in regards to remarks made to Bruce - STFU

You are such a pussy, seriously - you come in here, rile up a few guys - then you leave like a "coward", and come back to respond to posts after most have gone to bed.

Well I'm still up, and you haven't dropped (1) single peice of proof that AAS are dangerous.

Your friends Liver Damage - tell the truth, - was it due to JUST AAS or was it something that ran in his family, - or maybe he was a booze bag.................................my guess - you're lying out your pretty teeth.

You NEED to post here, cause you're known as the pussy of C&C too..........................Find another site altogether you "candy-ass" PUNK.

LMFAO - what a tool-bag
 
I worked a 12 hour shift which is why I have not replied sooner,

to all of you that acted like typical pricks..... whatever, nothing you say on here will make a difference. I know I have a good life and I am blessed with great looks and nice body. Do you honestly think I have any trouble getting women ? My face and single digit bodyfat....... hmmmmm the answer is simple.
I dont need steriods to have sex or to enhance my looks, I feel the reason I keep in shape is to be healthy.

To the people that answered honestly, thank you I appreciate your responses. Big Joe, i am glad that you are recovering from cancer..... that takes alot of courage.

I just wanted to know why that you guys took it to the next level and took steroids.....

I am in my mid 20's, I am really active..... I have competed in Boxing/Wrestling/BJJ and I work out often. My body is above average (meaning I have low body fat and I have some muscle) I am not saying I am the biggest person or anything like that.

the reason I would never do steroids is........ I would not want to risk my health. (again this is my reason only)

so if you are not a professional athlete or like Big Joe and recovering from Cancer, what is the reason for doing this ? the only thing I see people saying is for looks and nothing else.

I just think it makes no sense, the reason you train in the gym and do cardio is to keep healthy. then you inject yourself with drugs that COULD take your health away........ I put could in bold to stress that.

all to look better, it seems so superfical to me.
 
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nuthinbutagoodtym said:
first off - in regards to remarks made to Bruce - STFU

You are such a pussy, seriously - you come in here, rile up a few guys - then you leave like a "coward", and come back to respond to posts after most have gone to bed.

Well I'm still up, and you haven't dropped (1) single peice of proof that AAS are dangerous.

Your friends Liver Damage - tell the truth, - was it due to JUST AAS or was it something that ran in his family, - or maybe he was a booze bag.................................my guess - you're lying out your pretty teeth.

You NEED to post here, cause you're known as the pussy of C&C too..........................Find another site altogether you "candy-ass" PUNK.

LMFAO - what a tool-bag
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i have never even heard of you, I know you dont like me and I could care less.

you about done, because I am responding to you
 
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Maverick said:
i have never even heard of you, I know you dont like me and I could care less.

you about done, because I am responding to you
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Just get the fuck out of here....................***simple***
 
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Maverick said:
I am blessed with great looks and nice body. Do you honestly think I have any trouble getting women ? My face and single digit bodyfat....... hmmmmm the answer is simple.
I dont need steriods to have sex or to enhance my looks, I feel the reason I keep in shape is to be healthy.



I just think it makes no sense, the reason you train in the gym and do cardio is to keep healthy. then you inject yourself with drugs that COULD take your health away........ I put could in bold to stress that.

all to look better, it seems so superfical to me.
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Didn't you just contradict yourself?????
You CARE A TON about your looks and your self-esteem OOZES bottom levels - otherwise you wouldn't have to "tell" everyone about your looks etc........you tell people these things because you are really trying to convince yourself.
 
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nuthinbutagoodtym said:
Didn't you just contradict yourself?????
You CARE A TON about your looks and your self-esteem OOZES bottom levels - otherwise you wouldn't have to "tell" everyone about your looks etc........you tell people these things because you are really trying to convince yourself.
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for the record, I know i am good looking.
 
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Maverick said:
for the record, I know i am good looking.
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Keep telling yourself that.
As long as you can keep convincing yourself, there's no need to address your underlying self-esteem issues.
 
Maverick you are an idiot, what is with this good looking BS , the fact you go on about indicates to me its your mum thats tells you this, right after she tucks you in at night and kisses her precious little soldier goodnight!
 
maccer said:
Maverick you are an idiot, what is with this good looking BS , the fact you go on about indicates to me its your mum thats tells you this, right after she tucks you in at night and kisses her precious little soldier goodnight!
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awwwww I love my mommy
 
Maverick said:
you need a hug or a role model or something
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hey paul walker get the fuck out of here. you are a coward 12 hour shift or no. i was fucking my gf when you decided to post back. so i don't need a hug just a hit of chronic to laugh at your comments, post pics. you look like a raging loser, yes i do think you have trouble getting girls, your pretty boy face won't do shit for ya. i am male model in a big city, not canada, lol, no offense canadian bros. and i see 100 guys like you at every show, low low low self esteem always trying to point out why you arent as good as others, aka they use steroids. get your head out of your ass. why do you even care. if you are so special go get a job with gucci prada and ysl like i just did today. some nice free sneaks that cost more than your wardrobe for lookin good. suck a dick no homo. nuthinbutagoodtym is the man and he eats little boys like you postworkout meals. anyone who boasts how good lookin they are needs a penis, self esteem, and sex for the first time. lol i think we got us a virgie here boys. my role models are all in this thread, fighting in boxing rings, or killin it like my pops does. get a gf and you wouldn't be on here talkin shit. but then again i doubt you have pubes yet
 
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