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started dieting today, so I thought I would take some before pics to track my progress. Stats as of this morning, 260lbs even, at 5'8", dont even want to guess at bodyfat...... I'm carrying a truckload of fat and water in my back, so I can barely even see it in the pics, but thats the last place I lose it, last show, my back still looked water logged until I started diuretics.
My bodyfat wasnt that bad till recently, but then I came off of everything, and forgot that I gain bf crazy fast as soon as I come off, so my gut blew up

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thanks guys, feel like a fat ass, especially since alltraps keeps calling me one, but that'll change now

forgot a pic
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you really not carrying that much fat.....Not contest ready, but not fat by any streatch of the imagination. that last pic looks good!

BGI
 
Damn you're huge NS! And for off-season 260 at 5'8", not that fat :) I'd only call you tubby if I knew I could outrun you lol. You'll look great when you diet down, keep us posted on progress!
 
Shape, are you talking to me or NS? If NS, I guess he'll answer :) If you meant me, I'd say about 30lbs if I'm getting into contest condition. Last time I did that was over 2 years ago though. I started at 205, was about 177-178 a month out, then broke my tailbone lol. Next time I'm going to try and not have quite as much to lose.
 
alltraps said:
hahah, sorry dude, i have to laugh. you know what im gonna say so i wont even say it.





























oh what the hell...... fat ass. your waiste is wider then your shoulders! drop 50lbs then post pics fatty
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I can actually see the outline of my abs in those pics, lets see some pics of yours????? :p
 
last time I dieted down to show condition, I dropped 55lbs, but ended up losing some mass along the way, so its hard to predict
 
needsize said:
I can actually see the outline of my abs in those pics, lets see some pics of yours????? :p
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abs? oh shit, i thought that was the outline of your spare tire! my bad



i might just diet and do this same show just so i can kick your ass ego boy. you got me motivated. if only i wasnt so lazy.....
 
alltraps said:
abs? oh shit, i thought that was the outline of your spare tire! my bad



i might just diet and do this same show just so i can kick your ass ego boy. you got me motivated. if only i wasnt so lazy.....
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two problems, you're going away to school so the drinking would interfere with your diet, and having a cheat day every second day isnt the most effective way to contest diet....
 
needsize said:
two problems, you're going away to school so the drinking would interfere with your diet, and having a cheat day every second day isnt the most effective way to contest diet....
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dont piss me off or i;ll do it.


and FYI, you CAN diet on cheeseburgers and rolo ice cream. i found the secret
 
Hey needsize, looks good. Serious f'n mass broham. When is the fight with ButterBean? lol. J/K. Those f'n tree trunks for wheels are sick bro. What do you squat? F-150's? Mobile homes?
 
damn bro your wheels look pro size you got some great mass going there's nothing there that a little good dieting and cardio can't sculpt....all it is is melting the little snow caps off the granite peaks. yeah the after pics are going to be insane with all that mass once you get your cuts going your going to be a specimen. Good luck bro!
 
You fat bastard! Only fuckin with ya. Yeah, you're all blown up right now, but most of the bros know what the real man looks like underneath come contest time. I give you props for going all out to get that mass packed on. Me personally, it fucks with my head somethin fierce. Can't wait to see more progression pics as contest day draws nearer and nearer.
 
Needsize should come in this time looking awsome---He has the size to work to his advantage-good work my man!

RADAR
 
Now all you have to do is not shave for the next month, and take a side profile picture of while your sticking out your gut. (Hold a newspaper and a bottle of hydroxycut in your hand)

Then get diced up (the real way), and post your after picture with the bottle, all tanned and shaved.

Place in your contest, show the pics to muscle-tech, and you'll be set for sponsors haha.

Seriously though, you still have abs before you even start cutting, that's awesome, I'm sure you'll come out leaner and thicker this go round. Good luck.
 
concordsize said:
Your bf is is still under controle bro. When is your next show?
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thanks, if I decide to do them, there are two in Oct that I planned on hitting, depends on what the new trainer says when I meet her
 
damn, just noticed this second page of comments
measurements arent that impressive, my small frame makes everything look bigger, but cold, my arms are 19 1/4 to 19 1/2", quads are around 29", possible a hair smaller.
chefbone, I squatted 500lbs x 5 reps, ass to the floor raw at the end of my last cycle
 
Good god man. You're a beast you overgrown behemoth. That is serious weight. Keep up the good work. Post progress pics once you start cuttin' up.
 
at least hes made progress in the last year. unlike some people that post "progress pics" and they look exactly the same each and every time.
 
Haha, we all know who he's talkin' about I think, but I won't just outright post it... you never know, I *could* be wrong. ;)
 
Tux said:
Haha, we all know who he's talkin' about I think, but I won't just outright post it... you never know, I *could* be wrong. ;)
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ive been getting really annoyed at some of the post on here lately, especialy shameless, open source self promotion. i would post pics of me to shut some people up, but i have nothing to prove, no progress to show, and no hidden agenda. this is not directed at NS at all, as hes showing what he has done in the last two years and he IS A COMPETITOR, so he has something to prove. i respect the hard work and dedication oh his part. the other clown(s) on here, they are a joke.
i think my hormones are all out of whack since im clean cuz i get so annoyed. time to get back on
 
Well I posted pics so people can see somewhat what I look like. I'm no monster yet, but I was bigger than most people thought and I've nothing else to prove either, I'm not planning on competing again till probably next summer. And yeah, alltraps, what the hell are you doing OFF cycle? Is there truly such a thing as coming off? Say it ain't so!! :)
 
Tux said:
Well I posted pics so people can see somewhat what I look like. I'm no monster yet, but I was bigger than most people thought and I've nothing else to prove either, I'm not planning on competing again till probably next summer. And yeah, alltraps, what the hell are you doing OFF cycle? Is there truly such a thing as coming off? Say it ain't so!! :)
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alltraps really impressed me today, first time I've seen him with no shirt since last summer, and hes huge and pretty lean, if I didnt know any better, I'd swear hes looking like a bodybuilder now
 
Tux said:
Well I posted pics so people can see somewhat what I look like. I'm no monster yet, but I was bigger than most people thought and I've nothing else to prove either, I'm not planning on competing again till probably next summer. And yeah, alltraps, what the hell are you doing OFF cycle? Is there truly such a thing as coming off? Say it ain't so!! :)
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bro, you know who im talking about. i love when guys post pics and ask for feedback, thats cool. always good to know what others think. but some people have hidden agendas..... i just dont post pics, cuz frankly, i dont think i look good enough, plus i know what i need to work on, i dont need 18 year olds on here telling me i look like shit. props to you for your pics

NS, thanks bro. means a lot
 
Damn, gotta spread K around before giving it to alltraps and NS again. If NS says you're looking good alltraps, then you're probably looking DAMN good. Props to you both, and looking forward to seeing your pics when you start dieting down NS! If I can drop a little bodyfat this summer I'll post some updated pics to see if I've made any improvements :)
 
alltraps really should post some pics, he would blow some minds here

wutangnomo, realistically looking for 205-210lbs on stage
 
alltraps said:
ive been getting really annoyed at some of the post on here lately, especialy shameless, open source self promotion. i would post pics of me to shut some people up, but i have nothing to prove, no progress to show, and no hidden agenda. this is not directed at NS at all, as hes showing what he has done in the last two years and he IS A COMPETITOR, so he has something to prove. i respect the hard work and dedication oh his part. the other clown(s) on here, they are a joke.
i think my hormones are all out of whack since im clean cuz i get so annoyed. time to get back on
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You must spread some Karma around before giving it to alltraps again.

Looking massive needsize - you've definitely got a winning forumla
 
gjohnson5 said:
You drop a whole 50-60lb's cutting?
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for a contest, I do, last time was 55lbs, but I may have lost some mass too. I hold a ton of water, which adds to that, dropped 15lbs of water in the last two days
 
Looking again... and brotha your legs are looking great...Keep us posted on the progress, the last time was great watching the changes you made.....This time should be even more impressive.
 
wow needsize...you are huge!!....LMAO...wow...you definatly gonna come in 10lbs heavier than last year after you diet down.
 
alltraps said:
ive been getting really annoyed at some of the post on here lately, especialy shameless, open source self promotion. i would post pics of me to shut some people up, but i have nothing to prove, no progress to show, and no hidden agenda. this is not directed at NS at all, as hes showing what he has done in the last two years and he IS A COMPETITOR, so he has something to prove. i respect the hard work and dedication oh his part. the other clown(s) on here, they are a joke.
i think my hormones are all out of whack since im clean cuz i get so annoyed. time to get back on
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lets be serious bro...look at your back pic..LOL...i can only imagine what your chest looks like...you look great

me personally im going for the year round galaxy look...probably u too...i just havent seen many pics of u so i dont know.
 
Almost looks as bad as my avatar...Seriously, you are looking real good with size. As was said earlier, you will look awesome once you cut up...Good job bro!
 
bicepts101 said:
lets be serious bro...look at your back pic..LOL...i can only imagine what your chest looks like...you look great

me personally im going for the year round galaxy look...probably u too...i just havent seen many pics of u so i dont know.
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alltraps is just under 250lbs now, and pretty damn lean, for me to be impressed and actually admit it, he must look good
 
needsize said:
alltraps is just under 250lbs now, and pretty damn lean, for me to be impressed and actually admit it, he must look good
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yeah its definatly hard for us smaller guys to impress you bigger ones....its kinda like the better looking your are the higher standards you have...so the biggere you are....so on...
 
Damn, that means I need to get FREAKIN' jacked this fall to impress Needsize lol. I'm thinking, i'm 5'5", if I can make it over 200lbs fairly lean, that ought to be pretty big right? I got there once before, I can do it again! But not till september or so lol, I gotta get leaner for summer first!
 
you dont need to be huge to impress me(like my opinion is that important anyway, even my wife doesnt grant it much importance....), what impresses me is progress. Everyone starts off small, but what impresses me is when someone sticks with it, despite gains that arent always the greatest, and keeps progressing, getting better all the time. A lot of times, the really huge guys are the ones with crazy genetics that barely have to work for it, that doesnt impress me at all
bicepts, tux, you guys both impressed me with your pics, no worries there
 
Thanks NS... you should see the pic of me when I was 18 at 115lbs lol. I gave it to my gf a few days ago, and she's blown away by how much bigger I got in 5 years. Honestly I think I could have gotten bigger if I'd known what I was doing the first 2 years, but hey, no one knows everything when they start out!
 
Here is the scoop. Campared to you avatar... you are a fat ass. Compared to most of the people on this board you are not. Compared to the general public you are lean!!!
You've got some sick size! Keep posting to show us the progress!
 
needsize said:
you dont need to be huge to impress me(like my opinion is that important anyway, even my wife doesnt grant it much importance....), what impresses me is progress. Everyone starts off small, but what impresses me is when someone sticks with it, despite gains that arent always the greatest, and keeps progressing, getting better all the time. A lot of times, the really huge guys are the ones with crazy genetics that barely have to work for it, that doesnt impress me at all
bicepts, tux, you guys both impressed me with your pics, no worries there
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well lets not get carred away needsize....you opinion is very important esspecially here....and wow thanks for the compliment, im surprised
 
bicepts101 said:
lets be serious bro...look at your back pic..LOL...i can only imagine what your chest looks like...you look great

me personally im going for the year round galaxy look...probably u too...i just havent seen many pics of u so i dont know.
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i would kill to look like galaxy year round! someday....maybe
 
slat1 said:
Here is the scoop. Campared to you avatar... you are a fat ass. Compared to most of the people on this board you are not. Compared to the general public you are lean!!!
You've got some sick size! Keep posting to show us the progress!
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thanks, I guess thats one way of looking at it, but I judge myself by bodybuilding standards, so I tend to be pretty tough on myself. I am happy with the size I've got right now, and am actually enjoying the diet as I know the bf will drop super fast
 
needsize said:
thanks, I guess thats one way of looking at it, but I judge myself by bodybuilding standards, so I tend to be pretty tough on myself. I am happy with the size I've got right now, and am actually enjoying the diet as I know the bf will drop super fast
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Yeah, your bf really isnt that bad, you can see the outline of your abs. Looks like you have some nice genetics. Those pictures were taken since you have been off cycle how long?? I am 6 foot and 245 and Squat 495, 5 plates per side, for 4 reps rock bottom, you beat me! You do have some really great quads.
 
NS youre big as hell bro. shit your quads are bigger than my waist by an inch. you are the same height as me but weigh around 75lbs more than me. i am 5'8" 185lbs at around13%bf. getting mass like you is hard for lil guy like me. keep up the good work bro.
 
NS - You swole Mo-fo...........hows the little one doing? She sit on your tummy while you guys watch the tube? lol, kidding bro...........you'll be incred in a few months.

Hey, how is the diet? If it aint nailed down???? Mac and cheese.?
 
maldorf said:
Yeah, your bf really isnt that bad, you can see the outline of your abs. Looks like you have some nice genetics. Those pictures were taken since you have been off cycle how long?? I am 6 foot and 245 and Squat 495, 5 plates per side, for 4 reps rock bottom, you beat me! You do have some really great quads.
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Thanks, I've always had decent genetics in my legs, and train them brutally hard. At the end of every quad workout I have to lay on the floor of the gym for 10 minutes to avoid puking, before moving onto hams. But every time I start getting sick on leg day, I keep telling myself that I will never let anyone beat me on stage with their legs....never

dannomight, I started small too, 120lbs when i started training, 10 years of natural training and I was around 180lbs, 8% bf, that was 4 years ago.

kurz, little one is doing great, he'll make cardio easy as he never sits still, so I chase him all day....No mac and cheese in this diet :mix:
 
that's some serious size man, and damn your legs look great bulked up.. mine look like sausage links when I get over 12%. Great to see someone who works his ass off over the long haul and gets results that show.

I know you said you weren't going to post it, but what was the last cycle like? and are you off-off or bridging?
 
Tweakle said:
that's some serious size man, and damn your legs look great bulked up.. mine look like sausage links when I get over 12%. Great to see someone who works his ass off over the long haul and gets results that show.

I know you said you weren't going to post it, but what was the last cycle like? and are you off-off or bridging?
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I'm not off at all, someone got that impression but I'm dieting now, so am just running the same cycle I was for bulking. Thats partly why I am so waterlogged, high doses of test and deca will do that too you, I'm also running eq, and peru tech just came out with a new batch of winny, so I'm giving that a run. If you want doses, pm me
 
Bro your arms are 19'+ cold? And you say you aren't really as buff as you look? I think I would seriously kill someone to have even 18' arms. You're a fuckin monster IMO.
 
slyder190 said:
Bro your arms are 19'+ cold? And you say you aren't really as buff as you look? I think I would seriously kill someone to have even 18' arms. You're a fuckin monster IMO.
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i would kill to had 21" arms... .18" on my 6'2'' frame doens't look big enough.
man... its bad that when you'r going to diet down to the same weight as needsize .. but when hes like 6" shorter than you hes much more of a fuckin moster.. damn him. lol.
gota say it again, can't wait for the final result
 
Needsize you are a bulshiter... strait up.

You are not fat in those pics..just storing watter + soem fat. Damn bro i can see your abs.

You lucky mofo...you dont store fat in your chest..like me.
I store fat by my nipples..looks like boobies...puffy+ water.

Im going to post some real "fat pics " bro when lmfao i start to cut.

Then you will see what a real fataas bloated fucker looks like.
 
Aww don't make us wait Polfa, post up some fat-ass pics RIGHT NOW!! I bet that's why your avi is still pinned under the bar, he can't roll it down his stomach b/c his huge gut's in the way :D
 
Yup thats it pinguin man..lol
Ill tell you guys something....it sucks to carry subcoteneus fat....in the pecs.SUCKS
Even when i can see a six pack when i wear a white shirt i can see puffy nipples.
No its not gyno. Its just the way they are. Only thing i know to get rid of this is Yohimburn and keepign my sodium down + watter checked. I use yohimburn almost exclusively for the area aroudn my nipples.

Then this guy posts he is fat..lmfao. Lucky fuck.
Needsize looks like your bf level is damn low if we can see abb cutouts. To me looks liek your just inflated full of water....thus the bloat etc. Dont look like fat to me.

This is a rant..but it also pisses me off you guys with big frames. God threw one your way. Muscle we can build but i wish there was something to do for a biger frame.

GH..:)

Waiting till im 25 for that.
 
so what has the diet been like bro? You were a mac and cheese guru before....what happened? How many off days?
 
PolfaJelfa said:
Yup thats it pinguin man..lol
Ill tell you guys something....it sucks to carry subcoteneus fat....in the pecs.SUCKS
Even when i can see a six pack when i wear a white shirt i can see puffy nipples.
No its not gyno. Its just the way they are. Only thing i know to get rid of this is Yohimburn and keepign my sodium down + watter checked. I use yohimburn almost exclusively for the area aroudn my nipples.

Then this guy posts he is fat..lmfao. Lucky fuck.
Needsize looks like your bf level is damn low if we can see abb cutouts. To me looks liek your just inflated full of water....thus the bloat etc. Dont look like fat to me.

This is a rant..but it also pisses me off you guys with big frames. God threw one your way. Muscle we can build but i wish there was something to do for a biger frame.

GH..:)

Waiting till im 25 for that.
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trust me, I dont have a big frame, its tiny. 120lbs when I started training, on stage my waist was uunder 30", wrists are around 7" I believe, but the small frame makes everything look bigger. I used to really wish I had a bigger frame like alltraps has, big pollish bastard.....
kurz, when I was bulking, I was still eating lots of pasta like mac and cheese, basically eating anything I could get in my stomach, I even went through a box of 12 danish's every week. Now its just super clean, egg whites, chicken, cottage cheese, potatoes, oatmeal, and EFAs
 
PolfaJelfa said:
Yup thats it pinguin man..lol
Ill tell you guys something....it sucks to carry subcoteneus fat....in the pecs.SUCKS
Even when i can see a six pack when i wear a white shirt i can see puffy nipples.
No its not gyno. Its just the way they are. Only thing i know to get rid of this is Yohimburn and keepign my sodium down + watter checked. I use yohimburn almost exclusively for the area aroudn my nipples.

Then this guy posts he is fat..lmfao. Lucky fuck.
Needsize looks like your bf level is damn low if we can see abb cutouts. To me looks liek your just inflated full of water....thus the bloat etc. Dont look like fat to me.

This is a rant..but it also pisses me off you guys with big frames. God threw one your way. Muscle we can build but i wish there was something to do for a biger frame.

GH..:)

Waiting till im 25 for that.
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Polfa, I have the same problem. When I would bulk I always seemed to put a layer of fat on my chest first...and it was always the last place to lean out ...sux. Have you tried yohimbine? It works great for me.
 
mendo said:
Polfa, I have the same problem. When I would bulk I always seemed to put a layer of fat on my chest first...and it was always the last place to lean out ...sux. Have you tried yohimbine? It works great for me.
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I mean oral yohimbine tabs...in addition to the topical yohimburn...
 
coloradosteve said:
I'm no expert but it looks like your holding allot of water and not fat. Damn dude, I'm 225 at 5'8" and can barely wipe my ass, you must be hurting, lol!
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I'm on a ton of enth and deca, so there is a lot of water, and I am a human sponge anyway. Flexibility does suck, asswiping is a chore, but it gets better as I get leaner
 
It's good to hear you losing some of that bloat! It's so hard to stay away from salt (even diet coke has salt in it!) because so much good stuff has it. I cheat and use alcohol to get rid of the bloat, but I don't take allot of steroids, and I only use 20mg of dbol per week. I think Arnie drank wine too?
 
damn man, if we popped you we would solve africa's water famine.

lay off the roids man, your health is gonna go downhill man........ you seriously do not look healthy. At 5'8" 260 your heart has to work awful hard man.

stay healthy
 
mikeyboy604 said:
damn man, if we popped you we would solve africa's water famine.

lay off the roids man, your health is gonna go downhill man........ you seriously do not look healthy. At 5'8" 260 your heart has to work awful hard man.

stay healthy
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note the pics were taken the first day of my diet.....
bodybuilding is not known as a real healthy past time, but one that I love, so I dont mind the minor risks that accompany it
 
needsize said:
note the pics were taken the first day of my diet.....
bodybuilding is not known as a real healthy past time, but one that I love, so I dont mind the minor risks that accompany it
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if dying is minor...... ok
 
Bro if you're this negative about the possible sides of steroids, why do you have over 3500 posts on a steroid board? Death is NOT a very likely side of gear. Even massive doses for long periods of time usually don't cause permanent damage. And NS doesn't take unneccessary risks. If he's willing to accept the small amount of risk he's taking, there's no need for you to go crying about death from steroids... you aren't connected to the media are you? :)
 
mikeyboy604 said:
if dying is minor...... ok
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I'm guessing you arent very knowlegeable about steroids then are you? Where does dying come in, there is not one documented case of anyone ever dying from steroids, or complications from them. I have blood tests done every few months, and nothing has EVER been out of the normal range. I also had an ecg done on my heart 6 months ago, that checked out fine. So can you help me out, and explain to me what it is I'm missing?
 
needsize said:
I'm guessing you arent very knowlegeable about steroids then are you? Where does dying come in, there is not one documented case of anyone ever dying from steroids, or complications from them. I have blood tests done every few months, and nothing has EVER been out of the normal range. I also had an ecg done on my heart 6 months ago, that checked out fine. So can you help me out, and explain to me what it is I'm missing?
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Im glad that your taking care of yourself (eg bloodtest's etc) but people often overlook the underlying medical issues that steriods may cause. (weak immune system, low white cell count and as I said 5'8 260lbs is alot for your heart no matter if it is muscle or fat...... you need alot of oxygen to make that heart pump blood to all of that mass.

and you say that there has been no deaths ? think again........ there has been alot more then you think. I work in a major hospital and I have seen more then a few cases. eg heart failure, blood disorder's and immune system failure.

look at your kids and tell me that being big is worth them not having a daddy. even if you don't have anything that serious, what about all the other side effects ? that can make your life hell also. Needsize, your a good bor and I just think you do not look too healthy, I have seen that look many times.

take care of yourself.

PS: to the person that said why am I on a steriod board with 3,500 post's ? I go to chat and the weight training boards. I am natural but I train hard.
 
mikeyboy604 said:
Im glad that your taking care of yourself (eg bloodtest's etc) but people often overlook the underlying medical issues that steriods may cause. (weak immune system, low white cell count and as I said 5'8 260lbs is alot for your heart no matter if it is muscle or fat...... you need alot of oxygen to make that heart pump blood to all of that mass.

and you say that there has been no deaths ? think again........ there has been alot more then you think. I work in a major hospital and I have seen more then a few cases. eg heart failure, blood disorder's and immune system failure.

look at your kids and tell me that being big is worth them not having a daddy. even if you don't have anything that serious, what about all the other side effects ? that can make your life hell also. Needsize, your a good bor and I just think you do not look too healthy, I have seen that look many times.

take care of yourself.

PS: to the person that said why am I on a steriod board with 3,500 post's ? I go to chat and the weight training boards. I am natural but I train hard.
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Dude relax...

He isn't Anthony Clark size so I dont think any of those things (heart failure , allergies , killer cells , etc) matter.
To be honest , statistically overweight African Americans (Luther Vandross , Barry White) have this to worry about. Bill Clinton (bunch him with the black folks) too since he likes soul food :-)
 
mikeyboy604 said:
Im glad that your taking care of yourself (eg bloodtest's etc) but people often overlook the underlying medical issues that steriods may cause. (weak immune system, low white cell count and as I said 5'8 260lbs is alot for your heart no matter if it is muscle or fat...... you need alot of oxygen to make that heart pump blood to all of that mass.

and you say that there has been no deaths ? think again........ there has been alot more then you think. I work in a major hospital and I have seen more then a few cases. eg heart failure, blood disorder's and immune system failure.

look at your kids and tell me that being big is worth them not having a daddy. even if you don't have anything that serious, what about all the other side effects ? that can make your life hell also. Needsize, your a good bor and I just think you do not look too healthy, I have seen that look many times.

take care of yourself.

PS: to the person that said why am I on a steriod board with 3,500 post's ? I go to chat and the weight training boards. I am natural but I train hard.
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I am only that large for a small part of the year, look at my avatar, I walked around at 230lbs at 8% bodyfat for quite a while last year. I have a deal with my wife that i continue doing it this way as long as I am not taking any serious risks, and at this point, neither myself nor my doctor feel like I am. Even with all that water, my blood pressure actually stays pretty low, and my resting heartrate is pretty decent too
 
gjohnson5 said:
Dude relax...

He isn't Anthony Clark size so I dont think any of those things (heart failure , allergies , killer cells , etc) matter.
To be honest , statistically overweight African Americans (Luther Vandross , Barry White) have this to worry about. Bill Clinton (bunch him with the black folks) too since he likes soul food :-)
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I am relaxed my nigga........ just not healthy to be 5'8" 260.

all im saying
 
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