Newbies using 1000mg of testosterone a week?

2Thick said:

I am sure that you are familiar with elevted LDL, higher BP, acne, hair loss and the rest of the myriad of sides that come along with all of that fast growing you are talking about. So maybe you will gain a few more pounds, but at what price? Now if you say that arimidex is the answer then think about how much money would be saved if the person just used 250mg/week with a great diet and intensive workouts.

Using more than 250mg/week is just plain lazy for a newbie...and you know that.

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Andy13 said:

So there are more sides simply because it's his first cycle? Please... Are you telling me that if you were natural, untrained again that you would start off at 250mg/week of test? And that 1g of test as you first cycle gives more sides than if it was your second, third?
Do you think that if a newbie starts that high that he'll get immune to it and need more to get bigger after that?

Andy

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panerai said:

From reading your posts...

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Andy13 said:

So there are more sides simply because it's his first cycle? Please... Are you telling me that if you were natural, untrained again that you would start off at 250mg/week of test? And that 1g of test as you first cycle gives more sides than if it was your second, third?
Do you think that if a newbie starts that high that he'll get immune to it and need more to get bigger after that?

Andy

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basskiller said:

Hey Thick,
.... so now I'm confused, i worked on getting my first cycle together going by what some of you vets have said(not you in particular) that has 1000mgs of test in it.

I'm about to start it mid aug......

Are you saying that one should do a smaller cycle as a first.

I also seen alot of people say that their first cycle sucked because it was so small. But I know that it could have sucked because of a number of other things other than what juice they were using.....(diet)


Just wondering dude
basskiller

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2Thick said:

I will just tell you that you do not need that much test to make great gains on any cycle in the next few years (unless you are one of those very few people that do not respond well to test).

What will give you great gains on a cycle will be diet, rest and training. The dosage of the gear is secondary.

Just remember that once you use 1000mg of test in a cycle, there is no going back to 250mg or 500mg per week. Just be careful because you are going into dosages that come with serious sides one day.

I would say 500mg/week max for the 1st cycle.

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