First Timer . . . .

Soopaman121 · Oct 10, 2004

hey guys, i'm GOING to be a first timer soon and i got questions over all of this . . . but lemme give u my background first . . .

i am 17, and ya ya i'm TOO young and will stop growing but i AM doing this so just please give me advise. I'm 6'4" 200lbs about 14% body fat, i usually don't work out much unless i was in my athletic program, i.e. football and basketball. during football i'v been at about 215 but have stopped playing so haven't worked out much since. I know a few people that have taken mostly Test and Deca to bulk up. i belive it was test 300 and deca 400, from a company that makes these for livestock mostly... so this might be what i'm going to get because i don't know anyone else.....

so now for my questions.....

1. Is this company safe. . . i think i'v seen some posts here talking about a QV, when i looked at my friends bottle i think i saw that on the box for it, it was like a pinkish/redish box based out of Mexico or NewMexico i think....

2. Is this a smart starter cycle. Test 300 and Deca 400 for a 3-4 week cycle? should i add anything else to balance out side effects of these, and what are some side effects with this...

3. What do i need to do before or after my cycle, i'm afraid of bitch tits but never heard of anyone i know getting them, i'm not looking to be very large, just bulk up to about 220 so i might just do 2 4week cycles hoping to gain atleast 10lbs from each cycle.

4. What were some of your workout schduels like during your first cycle... i'm still in school and work about 40+ hrs a week, so the only time i think i'd be able to work out is from 10pm - 1am. (work retail management so depending on customers i don't leave sometimes until 10 to 12) This would be more towards the end of my day so i'm usually a little physically worn and pretty mentall worn.

5. Injecting... =( .... scarry for me. I don't mind shots at the Docs, but doing it myself is freaking me out. Should i just get over it and stick the needle in my ass? Where else do i have a choice that is SAFEST, and what all would i need for a "starter kit" besides the Test and Deca. Needles.... how long? Wipes or anything else? Anti Estrogen Pills?

sorry my questions are kinda scattered... if u just wanna quote one of the questions and post a answer for it, it would be easier to read. and once again i WILL BE DOING THIS, so though yall will say i'm too young, help me doing it the right way and not choose a stupid path.

hammertime30 · Oct 10, 2004

Soopaman121 said:
hey guys, i'm GOING to be a first timer soon and i got questions over all of this . . . but lemme give u my background first . . .

i am 17, and ya ya i'm TOO young and will stop growing but i AM doing this so just please give me advise. I'm 6'4" 200lbs about 14% body fat, i usually don't work out much unless i was in my athletic program, i.e. football and basketball. during football i'v been at about 215 but have stopped playing so haven't worked out much since. I know a few people that have taken mostly Test and Deca to bulk up. i belive it was test 300 and deca 400, from a company that makes these for livestock mostly... so this might be what i'm going to get because i don't know anyone else.....

so now for my questions.....

1. Is this company safe. . . i think i'v seen some posts here talking about a QV, when i looked at my friends bottle i think i saw that on the box for it, it was like a pinkish/redish box based out of Mexico or NewMexico i think....

2. Is this a smart starter cycle. Test 300 and Deca 400 for a 3-4 week cycle? should i add anything else to balance out side effects of these, and what are some side effects with this...

3. What do i need to do before or after my cycle, i'm afraid of bitch tits but never heard of anyone i know getting them, i'm not looking to be very large, just bulk up to about 220 so i might just do 2 4week cycles hoping to gain atleast 10lbs from each cycle.

4. What were some of your workout schduels like during your first cycle... i'm still in school and work about 40+ hrs a week, so the only time i think i'd be able to work out is from 10pm - 1am. (work retail management so depending on customers i don't leave sometimes until 10 to 12) This would be more towards the end of my day so i'm usually a little physically worn and pretty mentall worn.

5. Injecting... =( .... scarry for me. I don't mind shots at the Docs, but doing it myself is freaking me out. Should i just get over it and stick the needle in my ass? Where else do i have a choice that is SAFEST, and what all would i need for a "starter kit" besides the Test and Deca. Needles.... how long? Wipes or anything else? Anti Estrogen Pills?

sorry my questions are kinda scattered... if u just wanna quote one of the questions and post a answer for it, it would be easier to read. and once again i WILL BE DOING THIS, so though yall will say i'm too young, help me doing it the right way and not choose a stupid path.

Dude....you're going to get hammered by the bros here in the next 5-8 hours!!!!....Regardless of your age, just looking at your questions tells me you don't know shit about AAS and need to do a lot of research before starting....I'm not going to attack your age, but you need to find as many books as you can....go to bodybuilding.com and do a search on steroid profiles and read....read....read....go throughout all the posts on this board and read.....read.....read.....Take a good year and read....read....read....I can tell by your posts that attacking your age is not going to stop you, but your ignorance is going to be your down fall!!!! Here is an example.....you ask if deca for 4 weeks is a good cycle?....have you even read up on the profile of deca and the fact that it's a longgggg ester? Do you even know what a long ester is?? Have you read up on the potential sides and what is needed to fight them?? You say you want 20lbs from 4 week cycles of deca?? Are you serious?? Have you spoken to the people you know that took test and deca?....Did they tell you to do 4 week deca cycles??....You say you don't have time workout....Do you have time to eat 6-7 meals a day??....Give it more thought bro....That's my advice!!!!.....I know at 17 we feel we know alot and want alot....trust me, now I can say you don't know shit at 17.....

help4john · Oct 10, 2004

Soopaman121 said:
....help me doing it the right way and not choose a stupid path.

The stupid path has already been chosen. I'm following suit with Hammer and not pounding you too badly. You need to re-read Hammer's post over and over.

You are an accident waiting to happen. You don't realize all the negative consequences that can result from your decisions. At 17 ... I knew it all too! We all did!

You won't find anyone on this board that will support your decision or that will provide guidance to your plans.

I wish you luck in the future with natural gains and hope that you will wait until your early 20's (at least) to re-evaluate your decision.

Rod555 · Oct 10, 2004

No no no no no!

P.s. no

elprimo · Oct 10, 2004

Yep read newbies post, read some of the posts....................

LVTitan · Oct 10, 2004

i've been into aas for over 2 years , and wish i knew then what i know now, which still isnt shit compared to what there is to know... im 30 and 5 7" and only 140lbs, listen i know people who would give their nuts to be as big as you are naturally, you have SSSSOOOOOOOOOOO much potential to be a fucking monster naturally with your genetics...at 17 your natural hormones are still out of control and running rampant in your body . this IS NOT a good time to start fucking with them. seriously bro i know yur mind is made up, but please read read read. i just started reading books this year and i was amazed at what i learned....PCT whats that ? exactly...do you know, doesnt sound like... these guys are telling you this stuff for a reason bro. do me a favor, hell do yourself a favor. pretend you're on the shit right now and go to the gym 5 days a week and work out till you feel like your gonna puke. take a shitload of protein and take some creatine and watch your body transform in about 12 weeks...im serious give yourself 12 weeks !! and during that time read as much as you can on the internet, in the bookstore. and each time you read a good point you WILL say " damn i'm glad i learned this shit before i started a real cycle.... please feel free to add more guys i know he doesnt want to hear this shit but ....ahhh okay im off my soap box now..... :supercool

if you agree with me guys give me some friggin karma ...hahahahah

Slyder190 · Oct 11, 2004

Seriously, wait till your early-mid 20's.

quadkilla31 · Oct 11, 2004

Your to young to be messing with AAS and by your post you know nothing about it either. You need to do alot of research and i do mean alot. You're wanting to do roids and you don't even work out. You've got alot to learn.

Jayy5921 · Oct 11, 2004

Not even getting into the age thing bro. That is on you. But man you seriously need to do a lot more research before you even consider anything based on the questions you have asked. There are a ton of things that you should already know before you are seriously thinking about doing your first cycle. You would know the answers to each question you asked if you were anywhere near ready. Keep reading up man and look at some posts here. There is some good informative info. bro.

Deleted member 33117 · Oct 11, 2004

I won't harass you about your age, since it won't matter bro. However, as stated before, you are not ready to use aas yet. Read read and read some more. 4 weeks cycles??? Whichever friend of yours advised this, please kick him in the nutts.

You need to learn about how to stack your drugs, the potential side effects of each drug seperately, and the different effects they have combined. You need to do more reading on proper injection technique. Learn the different companies, which ones are often faked, which ones are under dosed etc.

Young bro, you need to sit down, and carefully start researching before you stick a needle into your body. Start over and ask one question at a time now, and some of us will do our best to answer them.

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