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hobgoblin

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Bros.,

Needless to say I'm new here. I was lucky enough to find this place last night while surfing around.

I just started my first cycle today. I'm using 40mg of Oxandrin daily along with Cytomel 25MCG daily to help burn some remaining fat that I've been unable to shake. I'm 6 foot, 206 lbs currently and am hoping to reach a shredded 190lbs. This is a two month cycle.

This is also a physician assisted program. All drugs are legal and were prescribed. I also had all my base line blood work done and will be monitored throughout my cycle.

Does this sound like a worthy and reasonably safe juice plan? I've heard some scary things about Cytomel, but I must admit I don't know much about it. Just seeking some of your more informed opinions, bros.!

Thanks!

-Troy
 
I've done some research on Cymotel(T3) and from what I understand you shouldn't be on it for more than 6 weeks. It could screw up your thyroids.
 
Thanks for the response, Clark. I'm only on the Cytomel for four weeks of the eight week cycle, so maybe it'll all be okay. I've heard Cytomel burns fat like a freakin' blast furnace.
 
Cytomel is used to treat thyroid insufficiency (hypothyroidism). Among other secondary
symptoms are obesity, metabolic disorders, and fatigue. Bodybuilders take advantage of these
characteristics and stimulate their metabolism by taking Cytomel, which causes a faster
conversion of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Bodybuilders, of course, are especially interested
in an increased lipolysis, which means increased fat burning. Competing bodybuilders, in particular,
use Cytomel during the weeks before a championship since it helps to maintain an extremely low
fat content, without necessitating a hunger diet. Athletes who use low dosages of Cytomel report
that by the simultaneous intake of steroids, the steroids become more effective, most likely as the
result of the faster conversion of protein.

Until recently, Cytomel was used by bodybuilders and female bodybuilders, in particular-on a daily
basis over several months to remain "hard" and in good shape all year round. Believe us when we
tell you that to a great extent several bodybuilders who are pictured in "muscle magazines" and
display a hard and defined look in photos, eat fast food and iron this out by taking Cytomel. The over
stimulated thyroid burns calories like a blast furnace. Nowadays, instead of Cytomel, athletes use
Clenbuterol, which is becoming more and more popular. Those who combine these two compounds
will burn an enormous amount of fat. The next time you read that a certain pro bodybuilder
approaching a championship competition is still eating 4000 calories a day, you will know why.
Cytomel is also popular among female bodybuilders. Since women generally have slower
metabolisms than men, it is extremely difficult for them to obtain the right form for a competition
given today's standards. A drastic reduction of food and calories below the 1000 calorie/day mark
can often be avoided by taking Cytomel. Women, no doubt, are more prone to side effects than men
but usually get along well with 50 mcg/day. A short-term intake of Cytomel in a reasonable dosage
is certainly "healthier" than an extreme hunger diet.

As for the dosage, one should be very careful since Cytomel is a very strong and highly effective
thyroid hormone. It is extremely important that one begins with a low dosage, increasing it slowly
and evenly over the course of several days. Most athletes begin by taking one 25 mcg tablet per day
and increasing this dosage every three to four days by one additional tablet. A dose higher than 100
mcg/ day is not necessary and not advisable. It is not recommended that the daily dose be taken all
at once but broken down into three smaller individual doses so that they become more effective. It
is also important that Cytomel not be taken for more than six weeks. At least two months of
abstinence from the drug needs to follow. Those who take high dosages of Cytomel over a long
period of time are at risk of developing a chronic thyroid insufficiency. As a consequence, the
athlete might be forced to take thyroid medication for the rest of his life. It is also important that
the dosage is reduced slowly and evenly by taking fewer tablets and not be ended abruptly. Those
who plan to take Cytomel should first consult a physician in order to be sure that no thyroid hyper
function exists.

Possible side effects such as medication are described in the package insert by the German
pharmaceutical group Hoechst AG for their compound Thybon: "Exceeding the individual limits of
compatibility for liothyronine or taking an overdose, especially, if the dose is increased too quickly
at the beginning of the treatment, can cause the following clinical symptoms for a thyroid
hyperfunction): heart palpitation, trembling, irregular heartbeat, heart oppression, agitation,
shortness of breath, excretion of sugar through the urine, excessive perspiration, diarrhea, weight
loss, psychic disorders, etc., as well as symptoms of hypersensitivity." Our experience is that most
symptoms consist of trembling of hands, nausea, headaches, high perspiration, and increased
heartbeat. These negative side effects can often be eliminated by temporarily reducing the daily
dosage. Caution, however is advised when taking Cytomel since, especially in the beginning, the
effect can be quick and sometimes drastic. Athletes do not use the injectable version of L-T3, this
is normally used as "emergency therapy for thyrotoxic coma." Those who use Cytomel over several
weeks will experience a decrease in muscle mass. This can be avoided or delayed by
simultaneously taking steroids. For the most part, since Cytomel also metabolizes protein, the
athlete must eat a diet rich in protein.


RADAR
 
and if you take any medicine or supplements,etc
Many practitioners advise that you allow at least one hour before eating, because it allows for maximum absorption.
Be consistent about a high-fiber diet. If you start or stop eating high-fiber, get your thyroid rechecked, because it may change your absorption.
Many experts recommend you take vitamins or supplements with iron at least two to three hours apart from thyroid hormone. Iron can interfere with thyroid hormone absorption if taken too close together.
Be careful about taking calcium and calcium-fortified orange juice at the same time as thyroid hormone. Allow at least 2-3 hours apart, so absorption is not affected.
Don't take antacids within two hours of thyroid hormone. Allow at least 2-3 hours apart, so absorption is not affected.
Watch for interactions with antidepressants & thyroid hormone. Zoloft, Paxil and Prozac can make thyroid meds more or less effective. That about covers it! ~

RADAR
 
Thanks for the great info., Radar.

Has anyone here every cycled Oxandrin? I get the feeling that its one of the weaker AS's from looking around. Plus my doc. told me since I'd never done any AS's he was going to "prescribe one of the weaker ones"...
 
your doc prescribed you 40 mg's a day of btg's? the first and only time i did the btg's i gained over 20 lbs of lbm and lost fat! that was at only 25 mg,s a day. trt starting at a lower does on thoes and if your gains are as good as they should be you can save enough each month to have a second cycle......i just got a doc to prescibe me thoes babies too..i got 3 refills on a 60 count....my insurence is picking it up without even a question or pre autherization.im in heaven! thats gonna be 240 10 mg btg's i know through experience it would be a wast for me to go over 30 mg's a day.....so i just landed a cycle of top shit for about 100 that included md's vist!
i have no experience with cytomel though so cant help y a there, but you will be VERY happy with thoes BTG"S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Yup....40 mg a day. The pills are 10mg and my instructions are to take two of 'em twice daily for a total of 40 mg's.

Man, excuse my newbieness to the lingo and abbreviations, but what does "btg" stand for?
 
BTG is the company that makes oxandrin for american pharmacy....they are like gold imo as far as anavar goes....one of my bottles is from savient pharmaceticals....but it still has the btg on one side and a 10 on the other.......just picked itup today from the pharmacy.......and your goals look easily obtainable. the strength you get from these things is scarey. and for me much better then what i get from test and you keep the majority of your gains as you hold no water on them.....you hit the jackpot bro!
 
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