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When was it official that Dbol was only to be used to "jumpstart" a cycle?

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When was it official that Dbol is only to be used to "jumpstart" a cycle?

I am interested in the opinions and reasons of those that explicitly promote this. Give me a reason other than liver damage because anyone that has acutally had experience knows that there isn't any extreme nor permanent damage with prolonged or high dosage use when liver protectants are taken in conjunction.

Jenetic
 
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Who thinks that Dbol and other orals are harsher on the liver than other meds, like antibiotics, tylenol, etc.....? I don't. I guess people want the instant gains, then keep those gains with the rest of the cycle.
 
georgie24 said:
instant gains from what ive read.
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Instant gains in water. These are the same people that claim to lose a considerable ammount of muscle post cycle.

Androgenic stimulus to the CNS in regards to strength is evident but subsides shortly after discontinuation. Neuromusclar adapatation to the training load and stimulus would not likely occur in the commonly recomended 4 weeks.

Other than a psychological comfort, the most common reason is safety and health. Why even run it for such a short period of time when the rewards are minimal.

Jenetic
 
chordz said:
Who thinks that Dbol and other orals are harsher on the liver than other meds, like antibiotics, tylenol, etc.....? I don't.
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I'm not very worried about the liver when I'm doing orals, taking anavar right now for 20 weeks. I have a doctor checking my liver every 5:th week and they seem to be ok. As long as the deses are normal(not over 40mg dbol in my nmind ) it would be ok. When on orals I'm more worried about kidnys and blood pressure, that shit can make you die. The liver will recover pretty fast.
 
Jenetic said:
Instant gains in water. These are the same people that claim to lose a considerable ammount of muscle post cycle.

Androgenic stimulus to the CNS in regards to strength is evident but subsides shortly after discontinuation. Neuromusclar adapatation to the training load and stimulus would not likely occur in the commonly recomended 4 weeks.

Other than a psychological comfort, the most common reason is safety and health. Why even run it for such a short period of time when the rewards are minimal.

Jenetic
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Good point.
 
Dbol is an awsome AAS, underestimated IMO. Better sleep, faster recovery, higher proteinsynthese,
 
MrRTTB said:
I'm not very worried about the liver when I'm doing orals, taking anavar right now for 20 weeks. I have a doctor checking my liver every 5:th week and they seem to be ok. As long as the deses are normal(not over 40mg dbol in my nmind ) it would be ok. When on orals I'm more worried about kidnys and blood pressure, that shit can make you die. The liver will recover pretty fast.
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Excessive water will keep the kidneys flushed and excessive salt will rise blood pressure. Keep those two in check and you have nothing to worry about!
 
MrRTTB said:
I'm not very worried about the liver when I'm doing orals, taking anavar right now for 20 weeks. I have a doctor checking my liver every 5:th week and they seem to be ok. As long as the deses are normal(not over 40mg dbol in my nmind ) it would be ok. When on orals I'm more worried about kidnys and blood pressure, that shit can make you die. The liver will recover pretty fast.
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I'm not saying orals don't put any stress on the liver but compared to normal every day prescription meds people take I don't think orals are much worse. Notice that most meds always call for "simple liver tests" before taking. Plus we are taking orals for a limited time.
 
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