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For those who never come off!

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Briefly, my cycle history: I have been using AAS steroids for the past 3 years. In the last year I have reached a point where I cannot maintain my mass after cycles, even with PCT. I have tried everything. You may laugh at this, but my sticking point is 210lbs solid at 6,3”. Then again, I have a super-fast metabolism.

I have come to the conclusion that like most big lads in the gym I will have to stay on year-round with periods of heavy cycles followed by light gear usage (bridge, no PCT except HCG).

I just want to know what some of you guys do in a typical year of continuous AAS use, i.e. dosages used for cycles & bridges, length of both & how much of gains do you keep from bridging.

All input is greatly appreciated.
 
250mg test cyp or enanthate every week is my base as well. i am 33 but i've got a 24yr old gf and its great to have wood whenever you need it. i lost my sex drive in my mid 20s, its great to be young again.
 
Triple-G said:
250mg test cyp or enanthate every week is my base as well. i am 33 but i've got a 24yr old gf and its great to have wood whenever you need it. i lost my sex drive in my mid 20s, its great to be young again.
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so that means that you're always shut down basically?? you never come off????
 
I am on all year,

do long cycles,
cut back,
do pct
then simply stay on growth and test for 4 weeks
and then start over.

54 years old

My cycles are contingent upon my work schedule, do light cycles when busy at work and heavy cycles when I have more time.
 
jeb0177 said:
so that means that you're always shut down basically?? you never come off????
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yes. i had test levels checked some 5 years ago and they were at the low end of the norm for a twentysomething man. i initially took that as fate and forgot about it for 2 years or so. then i came across various bb sites on the net and hooked up with some local sources. since then i am constantly on. i bought some clomid first but sold it only days ago since it was only collecting dust :qt:
but i am not shutdown completly, although my nuts are considerably smaller than they were years ago. before i got my vasectomy i let them test my sperm and i had active sperm even after 1 year of continous use of test! thats not uncommon though and the reason why a working male contraceptive has not been invented yet: test only does not work 100% to achieve azoospermia.
i will be on this "super-HRT" forever i guess. gear is dirt cheap here in Europe and i get a routine screening of blood and urine values and a prostate exam every year and its all in the normal range so far. i do lower the dose to 250mg every 10 days in my "off" time now, its enough to support a good amount of muscle and always-on libido.
 
solidspine + triple-q

I beleive your approach is safer than the roller coaster ride cycles take ppl through, and also I am against using clomid/nolvadex/HCG after cycles since I believe they simply cause more side effects.

I tried 250mg of test per week & maintained all gains except the water related strength gains, but this is good since then bp returns to normal (been checked). The levels are twice than normal test levels so should help hold onto alot of muscle. I will do this permanently when Im in my mid-30s.

BTW, any of you guys had any medical tests done for the heart function as that is my main concern for long-term use.
 
Triple-G said:
yes. i had test levels checked some 5 years ago and they were at the low end of the norm for a twentysomething man. i initially took that as fate and forgot about it for 2 years or so. then i came across various bb sites on the net and hooked up with some local sources. since then i am constantly on. i bought some clomid first but sold it only days ago since it was only collecting dust :qt:
but i am not shutdown completly, although my nuts are considerably smaller than they were years ago. before i got my vasectomy i let them test my sperm and i had active sperm even after 1 year of continous use of test! thats not uncommon though and the reason why a working male contraceptive has not been invented yet: test only does not work 100% to achieve azoospermia.
i will be on this "super-HRT" forever i guess. gear is dirt cheap here in Europe and i get a routine screening of blood and urine values and a prostate exam every year and its all in the normal range so far. i do lower the dose to 250mg every 10 days in my "off" time now, its enough to support a good amount of muscle and always-on libido.
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ah ok, now I understand bro. That's good that you keep getting checked every year, you never know
 
Triple-G said:
250mg test cyp or enanthate every week is my base as well. i am 33 but i've got a 24yr old gf and its great to have wood whenever you need it. i lost my sex drive in my mid 20s, its great to be young again.
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I married my then 23 year old wife when I was 40, so I know where you’re coming from brutha. :coffee:
 
I'm 39 and slipping the sausage to a 24 year old hottie but i'm only on juice about 4 months a year. I've been off since early April and have no plans to go back on soon.
 
perhaps consider review of your training and diet in view of holding mass, and going through your sticking point. continuous aas use is a serious decision, and i wouldnt really reccommend anyone to do it for the sake of a little muscle. there are some serious health dramas which will increase your chances of an early death significantly

full review. cant stress how important it is to do this before plunging into self medicated trt...
 
Dial_tone said:
I'm 39 and slipping the sausage to a 24 year old hottie but i'm only on juice about 4 months a year. I've been off since early April and have no plans to go back on soon.
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What another thirty-something with a twenty-four year old? lol! Judging by this thread, 23-24 must be the age when girls get fed up with “boys”.
 
Well good luck, some people have interesting points here, the main thing is to feel good, look good and enjoy sex, its free (for most!! :>) and extremely healthy, i for one luv it and try and get it as much as possible!!
 
solidspine said:
I am on all year,

do long cycles,
cut back,
do pct
then simply stay on growth and test for 4 weeks
and then start over.

54 years old

My cycles are contingent upon my work schedule, do light cycles when busy at work and heavy cycles when I have more time.
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What does this look like in terms of amounts taken? When you cut back, what do you cut back to? When and how do you do PCT?

I'm 46 and on HRT now, but it's severly lagging. My levels without HRT are just barely 200.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
You run this year round? Do you use HCG or any anti-e's?
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Yes, but this is what I have found works best for me. I wouldn’t recommend you start that high. 100mg/E5D keeps most people in the normal/upper ranges. I use HCG every two months. Works great for appearances.
 
So when your coming off the cycle after done with PCT your just sapousto watch your diet and train hard in order to try and mentaine your mass?
 
strongsmartsexy said:
Those of you over 40 may want to take a look and contribute your knowledge to the Master's board on here. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=77
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Masters Board. George is sending us to the old folks home? I have a 26 year old wife, damn it! Plus I drive a really cool car, and I go to heavy metal concerts. No? Not good enough? Okay, I’ll go. (BA walks away, head down, hands in pockets, kicking rocks) :D
 
benevolent anarchist said:
Masters Board. George is sending us to the old folks home? I have a 26 year old wife, damn it! Plus I drive a really cool car, and I go to heavy metal concerts. No? Not good enough? Okay, I’ll go. (BA walks away, head down, hands in pockets, kicking rocks) :D
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Not an olde folks home. Just another board to address things for the "masters" level people. Our bodies don't have the high metabolism and such any more, so there are changes we've all made that as time moved us on that we didn't have to do when we were much younger. This is just a place to put that information.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
Not an olde folks home. Just another board to address things for the "masters" level people. Our bodies don't have the high metabolism and such any more, so there are changes we've all made that as time moved us on that we didn't have to do when we were much younger. This is just a place to put that information.
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Yeah I know and I actually appreciate it. I wouldn’t make comments like that if I wasn’t comfortable in my own skin. This is truly the best time in my life. I’m in superb condition, both mentally and physically, and have been genetically blessed with excellent skin tone.
 
benevolent anarchist said:
Yeah I know and I actually appreciate it. I wouldn’t make comments like that if I wasn’t comfortable in my own skin. This is truly the best time in my life. I’m in superb condition, both mentally and physically, and have been genetically blessed with excellent skin tone.
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You have got to love that. I don't have the whole skin tone blessing, but I wouldn't trade this part of my life for anything I had before.
 
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