Deca/Proviron/Winstrol/HCG/Clomid/Nolvadex/Porno Cycle

Hi Guys,

First of all, sorry for the long post. I hope that it's not as bad as it first appears. All suggestions are much appreciated.

I'm a male, 5'7" and 150 lbs. What I'd like to do for the time being is to slowly reduce some of this lard on me, while increasing lean mass. I want to do all of this over a gradual period of time while on this cycle. This will be my first cycle and for now I just want to increase my lean mass some and reduce my bodyfat so that I can look halfway decent for summer.

I've been reading Anabolics 2002 and Steroids 101, and at present, I'm thinking about doing the following cycle from Anabolics 2002 for Cutting/Lean Mass:
Ingredients: 140 tabs of Proviron, 10 ml 200mg/ml Deca, 100 tabs 10mg stanozolol, 15,000 i.u. HCG, 30 tabs 50mg/tab Clomid, 30 tabs 10mg/tab Nolvadex

Week 1: 200 mg/wk Deca
Week 2 - 4: 50 mg/day Proviron, 200 mg/wk Deca
Week 5 - 10: 50 mg/day Proviron, 200 mg/wk Deca, 20 mg/day Winstrol
Week 11: 50 mg/day Proviron, 20 mg/day Winstrol
Week 12 - 14: 5000 to 3000 iu HCG, 50 mg/day Clomid, 10 mg/day Nolvadex
Week 15: 50 mg/day Clomid, 10 mg/day Nolvadex
Week 16: Starring in Several Pornos

In addition, throughout the cycle I'll be using Tyler Liver Detox, Udo's Choice Oil, 2+ gallons of water per day, and a multi-vitamin. In addition, I pulled the following stuff from a thread started by jackfrost647:

Nizoral Shampoo
320 mg Saw Palmetto/day
350 mg Milk Thistle/day
1950 mg Cranberry Fruit/day
2000 mg Evening Primrose Oil/day

I haven't decided on the amount of protein and carbs as of yet.

1. What do you guys think of this cycle?
2. Any additional suggestions for items that will protect the liver, kidneys, etc?
3. Lastly, should I opt for Winstrol as an injection instead of the pill to help reduce possible liver problems or is this considered a safe dosage in tablet form? Any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,

JustyXXXX

Notes taken from Anabolics 2002 and/or Steroids 101:

Deca: Shows an extremely lower tendency for estrogen conversion, approximately 20% of that seen with test. Deca is a very safe choice among steroids, many considering it to be the best overall for a man when weighing the side effects and results. The muscle building effect of this drug is noticeable, but not dramatic. Deca is not toxic to the liver or any other organs of the body. It is able to infiltrate the joint connectivity tissue, cushion it and protect from soreness of training.

Proviron: Among athletes, Proviron is primarily used as an antiestrogen. Proviron can bring about an increase in the hardness and density of the muscles. Proviron is non-toxic to the liver.

Winstrol: Shown to exhibit a slightly greater tendency for muscle growth than androgenic activity in early studies. Properties are mild in comparison to many stronger compounds, but it is till a reliable builder. Not capable of converting into estrogen. Very popular among athletes in combination strength/speed sports such as Track and Field. The tablets will place a higher level of stress on the liver than the injectable. Injectables, however, may require a larger needle and difficulty injecting have been noticed. Gastrointestinal pain is also common when taking larger doses. Adding Proviron and Winstrol may prove to enhance the free state of of this potent muscle building androgen.

HCG: Used to stimulate the production of endogenous testosterone. Most often used in conjunction with Clomid/ Nolvadex since it's not the perfect hormone to combat testerone suppression.

Clomid: Causes natural testestorone production to increase. With the intake of Clomid, the athlete can hopefully reduce his risk for developing gynecomastia. Clomid is considered a very safe drug.

Nolvadex: Effective against estrogen. Nolvadex can help restore a balance in hormone levels. It can have a positive impace on HDL (good) cholesterol values. It is the most popular antiestrogen used by athletes today. Many people may find it unnecessary to use, even when utilizing problematic compounds such as test or Dianabol.

suggestions:
skip the cycle, get your diet down to a T and work out smarter. at 150 you probably don't have much of a foundation yet.

since you're most likely going to do it anyways:
if this is really deca and not durabolin you need to wait 3 wks past the last shot to start your HCG/clomid/nolva. i would bump up the winni dose and only run it for 6 wks. oral winni and injectable winni are about the same as far as your liver is concerned go with what is cheaper.

ripper2 said:

suggestions:
skip the cycle, get your diet down to a T and work out smarter. at 150 you probably don't have much of a foundation yet.

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- Especially if you are fat at that weight!

ripper2 said:

suggestions:
skip the cycle, get your diet down to a T and work out smarter. at 150 you probably don't have much of a foundation yet.

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Exactly. You are nowhere NEAR ready for anabolics. How long have you been training? How old are you?

Why lose any fat, at 5'7" and a buck fifty in weight, I think that you could be the leading man in a gay porno which is filmed in a prison, especially if your white. Inmates like a little baby fat on their bitches. No offense intended toward you, just trying to help you with the plot of your next major film.

If you are fat at that weight

I would recommend this supplement stack.

Green tea 500-1000mg/ed or the equvelant of 10 brewed cups a day

ALA(alpha lipoic acid) 600mg x3 a day

Alcar(acetyl-l-carnitine) 2-5grams a day >>there is an injectable form of this<<

CLA(a fatty acid) 4 grams x4-5 times a day

hit the free weights 3days a week

aerobics x 3-4 times a week(20 minutes in the morning on an empty stomach will do wonders to boost your metabolism and burn fat)

People have reported steroid like gains from this stack of supplements.After about 3-4 months on a stack like this and some hard work you may be ready for some gear.I hope you try it you will be amazed.Good luck.

I agree with all the above. Sorry to say but 5'7" 150 and fat? I have been 5'6" 145lbs since freshman year in high school. I have always been scrawny!!!!!!

Man if you are 5'7" 150lbs with fat, you actually need to start working out get a good diet and do some cardio or play a sport.

AAS is not magic!!

5' 7" 150lbs. Already jumping on the AAS bandwagon! I just don't understand this mentality!!?? I waited until I was at least 205-210 and had a solid base before I ever touched anything other than Weider supplements (I know... what a joke!).

I would suggest (as others have)... Get a solid diet plan. Check out www.labrada.com for some ideas and ways to implement your diet.

Then I would suggest training. www.hypertrophy-specific.com should get you started.

After a year of doing things right, then add the AAS... of course you are going to do what you are going to do, so take my advice or leave it.

Guys, thanks for your opinions, suggestions, etc.

To start, I'm probably not as fat as I suggested that I was. My pics are in my pic gallery. Sorry for the misleading "lard" statement, I should've been more precise. I normally use the word lard to describe my fat, but I can see how those who don't know me would obviously take me seriously. Sorry for that.

I did weigh 160, but I got my weight down to 150 and now I'd like to continue growing while trying to keep as little fat on as possible. I've been working out for a little over a year, usually consuming about 3200 calories.

I will be taking steroids at some point, and I'm basically wanting to know of a good stack that will allow me to gain slowly, while keeping fat levels at a minimum. I don't want the bloated look for my prison-filmed porno (ha - thanks liftsiron1 for the idea). Maybe I'll wait a little longer, based on some of your suggestions, but I'd still like any ideas on this particular stack.

Do you guys recommend this stack for that? Thanks ripper2 for adding your comments to my stack. And thanks The_Eviscerator and rooster1 for your legally obtainable links and suggestions. guards, I am 27 and have been training for a little over a year. ripper2, the two books that I have contain a section called Deca-Durabolin, but I don't see anything that separates deca and durabolin. The cycle just mentions Deca. So, please point me in the direction to understand the difference between deca and durabolin, because I was under the assumption that deca is deca-durabolin since the chapters on "deca" are under the category Deca-Durabolin. I do understand that Deca-Durabolin is a brand name from Organon.

Thanks!

Deca vs. Durabolin

Deca, is the common street name for nandrolone decanote, a long acting ester of nandrolone. In contrast, Deca-Durabolin, or Durabolin for short, is nandrolone phenylpropionate, a much shorter, faster acting ester of nandrolone. The half life of the Deca is a ~2-3 weeks, while that of Durabolin is 3-5 days (don't quote me on these as I'm doing this from memory).

That's basically the difference, how long each substance lasts in your body following an injection (i.e. the release rate).

Hope that helps,

DrG