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Day 3 on THERMOREXIN

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Day 3-4 on THERMOREXIN

Ok after a shaky start, literally because I started with 2 caps, big no no, I am on my 3rd day. I still don't feel comfortable taking two and sleep was a little restless the first night with two so I may never get to two. Yeah sure I won't.
Anyway, appetite suppression is working very well. I looked at the clock yesterday and realized I it was 1 pm and I hadn't eaten yet. So remember to eat. You won't eat as much but you CAN eat on it.
I didn't eat this morning and took one so again shaving was a challenge and had to ultimately be performed with two hands on the razor.
I sleep on a waterbed. At 4 AM my wife woke me up and said the bed was leaking. It was absolutely soaked. I looked for leak but there was none. Then I realized it was only on my side, the water had come from me. Holy Moly!!
Suggestion: Put a beach towel over the bed where you sleep. Eat before shaving.
 
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I think thats solid proof ya'll got a good product on your hands. Keep us updated bro.
 
Shit, this sounds like some powerful stuff.

Have you taken a cap with the NYC yet? I take 2 NYC's, and drink two cups of green teas prior to mroning cardio. Am I safe to throw a Thermorexin into the mix?
 
Yeah, this stuff sounds awesome, but I still have a little nest egg of unopened NYC bottles to use first. I'm sure it will be the next thermo I buy though.

What the hell, you know, tomorrow's my bday, so maybe I'll spring for some with grandma's present.

:bday: :gift:
 
Sounds really good

just assure me this isn't a sales pitch because NYC has been banned??


if it is comparable to DNP will it hamper a cardio session??
 
"Have you taken a cap with the NYC yet? I take 2 NYC's, and drink two cups of green teas prior to mroning cardio. Am I safe to throw a Thermorexin into the mix?

and how many are you taking a day now, just 3?"

NO DO NOT TAKE THIS WITH ANYTHING ELSE!!!!

Three??? I can't get past one.


"just assure me this isn't a sales pitch because NYC has been banned??


if it is comparable to DNP will it hamper a cardio session??"

This product will need no sales pitch. I am posting because the stuff is WAY more powerful than I even I had imagined. If someone casually takes it with their NYC they will grabbing the arms of their chair and holding on for dear life for an hour.
Consider these posts to be more of a caution than a plug.

Kasia is one of the CS people here and she started her tread with 3 windsprints with no problem instead of her usual 1. Cardio is a breeze.
 
ulter,

What exactly is in it that you think is making it so powerful? Or it's a combiation of everything in it?
 
thanks ulter,

so IYO it is not necessary to stack the Thermo w/ NYC or a similar ECA type stack just run it alone
 
JG1, It's the combination. When it all hits you at once your body and brain get jolted. After a few hours it settles down but your cooking for the whole day and into the night.

Shape,

DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING ELSE WITH THERMOREXIN the first few days. You will not need any other thermo.
We are putting a warning label on the bottle now to that effect.
 
ulter,

How do you "feel" on it though...very speedy? I mean does it feel like you just took about 10 NYC's...that type of feeling or something different? Perhaps not too speedy, just sweating a lot?

How much of a stimulant is it? I was kinda hoping this product was easy on the ol' ticker.
 
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Ulter.........I just read the ingredients....interesting stuff.

How long can one stay on it before needing to "get of" (due to attenuation and/or potential health risks~tapped adrenals/heart probs)?
 
drveejay11, I don't know. I don't think anyone knows but everytime I say that Dr Macro posts an answer so we'll see what he says.

I was very lucky yesterday because it rained so I looked like everyone else and was relatively comfortable.

I am going to try going to one AM and one PM today.
I was dead from walking around all day yesterday when I got up this morning. I took the THERMOREXIN and I feel like I could run back to the park right now and it's 30 miles from here.

Also, I need to point out that I personally have not trained since I started due to medical difficulties and tests I had to have.
I will start training again today. Ursula and Kasia are raving about their workouts so I am looking forward to trying this.


I wish I was better at explaining how it makes you feel. The first hour is makes you feel kind of anxious and then when your brain gets used to all the stuff you just poured into it it settles down and you just get warm and alert. I did notice that by 5PM yesterday the intensity wore off. Which is why I feel like I am ready for 2 today.
 
Ulter, is this really heating you up that much to where your drenched all the time?
Also, I have little to no caffiene in my diet, Been that way for years.. So things like this get me very shakey...
Does THERMOREXIN get you anxious.

IT really does sound promising!
 
Yes you will get anxious, no question, for the first hour or so. The water comes in waves (no pun intended) it seems. If you are indoors and air conditioned then you'll likely only get a wet back and neck so you won't look sick to co-workers as someone asked.

Just a note: I am going on and on about this because I didn't listen to the smartest man I know regarding the strength of this product. Now I feel like an idiot. I thought it was going to be like NYC and he kept saying it will blow that away. To which I would reply "mhm ok". Now when I tell him what's going on in the AF office with the workers he just says "mhm".
 
Any estimations on how much metabolism is raised?

I'm really not wanting to fuck with DNP but I need to drop fat kinda quick...
 
Hmm....

Comparable to dnp?

Is it an uncoupler or a stimulant? If it is a stimulant, wouldn't it be VERY dangerous since you would need a pretty strong stimulant to even compare it to dnp?

-sk
 
another impression:

Mr. Nobody
Doby Mick
posted 05-18-2003 04:57 PM
well, I tried one, 45 minutes before working out.....was great to increase aggression and sweated like a pig...was not too stimulating though....just right...tomorrow I will try 2 before working out....I think P-7 is the perfect partner for this little supplement if you have trouble going to sleep...oh and before I forget, the appetite suppression IS VERY powerful, my chinese waitor thought I was sick when I quit at my third plate....the thing is it makes you taste the food less...food becomes less satisfying.....just my impressions;
 
I am ALWAYS on AS. I was not on a cutting program at all. I had to get an EMG and have some tests done, which turned up a bone spur in my spine, so I haven't been training this week either. I will train on Tuesday, I thought I was going to train today, but we went to The Matrix.

The one thing I am having a hard time with is remembering to eat and then eating it when it comes.
 
sk* said:
Hmm....

Comparable to dnp?

Is it an uncoupler or a stimulant? If it is a stimulant, wouldn't it be VERY dangerous since you would need a pretty strong stimulant to even compare it to dnp?

-sk
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it effects are multi-system.. both stim and non stim thermogenesis as well as impact on GH and insulin.. with appetite suppression and nootropic effects thrown in..
 
macrophage69alpha said:
it effects are multi-system.. both stim and non stim thermogenesis as well as impact on GH and insulin.. with appetite suppression and nootropic effects thrown in..
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My bp went through the room on 2caps of dymetadrine xtreme which is just a high dose eca stack, should I even attempt to take this? From the sound of it it looks very good, but i'm a little worried. BP went up to 170/120 and went back to 120/80ish the next morning.

Thanks mac.

-sk
 
Damn macro pulled off an effective ephedra free thermo that works.

This is excellent.
 
Uter, Macro why not a first time buyers discount or a May discount for this new product. I like your NYC and had great results, so hesitant to switch for something I may not like. I don't know maybe I am talking smack, but it would be a good promotion and marketing tool to drive up new business.
 
ulter said:


Down 6 pounds, I haven't measure my body fat.
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You're taking 1-2 caps of Thermorexin a day and you're down 6lbs in 4 days??? :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

HOLY SHIT.....


Any changes in diet?? Cardio??
 
Hey ulter, do you stay on this stuff for extended periods of time, or just cycle it like DNP. Also, any idea how long after the last dose the heat will go away.
 
KINGKONG69 said:
Hey ulter, do you stay on this stuff for extended periods of time, or just cycle it like DNP. Also, any idea how long after the last dose the heat will go away.
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Bump for this info. I ordered mine yesterday. Can I take it for extended amounts of time, i.e. 3wks on 3 wks off???
 
I am the longest surviving user of THERMOREXIN. :elephant:

Day 5

My morning capsule was gone by 3PM today 7PM yesterday. Tomorrow I will go up to 2/day. I still can't remember to eat but I am using an alarm to remind me now.
The heat is still very good the whole day and into the night. Due to the fact I will be taking 2 tomorrow the forecast should be very warm.

"Bump for this info. I ordered mine yesterday. Can I take it for extended amounts of time, i.e. 3wks on 3 wks off???"


I think if you use it for 3 weeks you may be finished dieting. So yes you can take off after that.
 
Sorry Utler but you're setting yourself up for failure here,

Great product or not "feels like DNP" reminds me of Bill Philips making HMB out to "feel like deca"...

Great product, probably, more effective than other fat burners, maybee... like dnp? hmm sounds fishy
 
Ok, what about Thermorexin and Yohimburn? The warning says not to use it with any other stimulant or something to that effect.

My favorite stack right now is a couple of NYC and some Yohimburn 30 mins before cardio.

Ulter?
 
Re: Day 3-4 on THERMOREXIN

ulter said:
Ok after a shaky start, literally because I started with 2 caps, big no no, I am on my 3rd day. I still don't feel comfortable taking two and sleep was a little restless the first night with two so I may never get to two. Yeah sure I won't.
Anyway, appetite suppression is working very well. I looked at the clock yesterday and realized I it was 1 pm and I hadn't eaten yet. So remember to eat. You won't eat as much but you CAN eat on it.
I didn't eat this morning and took one so again shaving was a challenge and had to ultimately be performed with two hands on the razor.
I sleep on a waterbed. At 4 AM my wife woke me up and said the bed was leaking. It was absolutely soaked. I looked for leak but there was none. Then I realized it was only on my side, the water had come from me. Holy Moly!!
Suggestion: Put a beach towel over the bed where you sleep. Eat before shaving.
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Are you sure you didn't piss yourself??? :confused:












...just checking :p
 
NEWcb38ac said:
Sorry Utler but you're setting yourself up for failure here,

Great product or not "feels like DNP" reminds me of Bill Philips making HMB out to "feel like deca"...

Great product, probably, more effective than other fat burners, maybee... like dnp? hmm sounds fishy
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Talk to me again AFTER you try it.

HollywoodSwole said:
Ok, what about Thermorexin and Yohimburn? The warning says not to use it with any other stimulant or something to that effect.

My favorite stack right now is a couple of NYC and some Yohimburn 30 mins before cardio.

Ulter?
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I can not emphysis this enough. This is much more powerful than NYC is. I love NYC but this will strip the fat off you so fast it's like nothing else. You'll see what I mean.
NYC will get you where you want to go and it's not as overwhelming as THERMOREXIN is so you may want to stay with NYC. This is just a shorter distance to your goal.
 
ulter said:
I am the longest surviving user of THERMOREXIN. :elephant:

I think if you use it for 3 weeks you may be finished dieting. So yes you can take off after that.
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How about also offering this in a 30 or 60 cap bottle - priced accordingly, of course?
 
I'll let you guys know in about 5 hours how good I think this product is. I have no doubts that it's going to be awesome though, as most products from the AF store are...
 
WelshInjectable said:
Ulter - Would it be beneficial to run say Var 40mg ED with it to reduce muscle loss or is it not a big concern with this product.
Thanks
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Yes, I strongly recommend using AS with it. Although you will lose the fat so fast the muscle won't have much time to atrophy noticeably.

JG1 said:
macro/ulter,

Any need to rotate this every two weeks with NYC?
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YES. You will need a stimulant to come off to anyway. Because the crash is very hard.
 
ulter said:


Yes, I strongly recommend using AS with it. Although you will lose the fat so fast the muscle won't have much time to atrophy noticeably.
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Umm, this stuff is catabolic? :confused:
 
ulter said:
No but not eating is.
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No probelms with eating here, even if I have to force it in.

Serioulsy though, for the people that are natural right now (me), is there anything "catabolic" about this product, besides the loss of appetite?
 
And your still on two caps daily, correct? One upon rising, and another about 6 hours later?
 
Ursula 29 Took 2 at once the first day and got whacked from it and did sleep that night. The 2-3 days she took one and sleep was still restless. Day 4 got her period and began PMSing and quit.

Kasia 23 Took 1 a day. She can't use NYC it makes her sick. She absolutely love THERMOREXIN. She was able to do 3 times the amount of cardio than she is used to. Hard to fall asleep but once she does it is peaceful and restful.

Mira 50 Took 1 a day. Same deal here, gets sick from NYC, but loves the THERMOREXIN. She is sedentary, does not normally diet, and still lost 4 pound in 3 days. No problem sleeping.
 
Would this loss of weight be directly related to loss of water? Since you are sweating so much?

Also, I take ECA and NYC for the energy

How does the thermo compare for pre workout energy etc?

What about using this with yohimburn df?

Thanks
 
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Just got mine :p.

Going to try one cap around 3pm. Sucks though because I don't train till 9pm, and I'm afraid of taking it later in the day.
 
Lets say that I have stubborn fat and i am not at my goal in 4 weeks? Does your body get use to it like ECA? SHould you take a break no matter what and then start up again? Is 3 weeks the longest you recommend taking it for? I already ordered mine and I will update everyone Friday. I am a big supporter of DNP and just finished a 2 week cycle last thursday. We shall see how this compares and I am looking forward to it and my girlfriend ordered some as well because I had her try NYC and she gets nautious and saw that other woman use it who had similar expierences with NYC. 2 more customers on the hook.
 
macrophage69alpha said:



one must keep in mind that ulter reccomends AS with everything
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Yes that's true. If you're cutting and want to keep your LBM you should be using AS. No matter what your using to cut with.
I didn't mean to say THERMOREXIN "requires" AS any more than NYC ECA or any other thermo your cutting with.
 
My question was unanswered and I believe it to be a very important issue. How is thermorexin on the heart and blood pressure?

-sk
 
sk* said:
My question was unanswered and I believe it to be a very important issue. How is thermorexin on the heart and blood pressure?

-sk
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as with most stims this will vary by individual... though most users, still few at this time, have noted little, if any impact on HR or BP.
 
I am sorry, I posted this so many places I can't keep track. Two hours after I took 2 the first day my heart rate was 74. Which is what kept me from shear panic. My BP was 20 points higher on it however, but there was a small fear factor. :)
But as Dr Macro points out my experiences are just one guy and in the grand analysis don't mean anything to others.
 
Only1eagle said:
Would this loss of weight be directly related to loss of water? Since you are sweating so much?

Also, I take ECA and NYC for the energy

How does the thermo compare for pre workout energy etc?

What about using this with yohimburn df?

Thanks
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Absolutely the first 3-4 pounds coming off will be water. But then once you lose it, which takes a day, you won't be putting any more on so whatever comes off after that is fat.

It's better than ECA or NYC for training. Again we join Mr Nobody's posts already in progress....


Mr. Nobody
posted 05-19-2003 08:34 PM
o.k. I wont try 2 before working out again...I had goosebumps throughout my whole workout...but the stamina was great

He normally uses ECA.
 
Ulter:

You say that you need a stimulant like NYC to come off this because the crash is very hard. You have been on it for approx 1 wk have you or any one tried going off of it? Is there a daily crash?

Thanks,

Axe
 
Ok, I took one cap approx an hour ago. The only thing I'm noticing is a more alert feeling...no sweating or feeling hot or anything like that.
 
Ok, just did the dishes and my forehead was wet afterwards and I'm feeling a little sweaty and hot just from doing that. If I just sit down and relax I'm fine (more alert feeling), but if I move around a little I feel the heat building up.
 
supernav said:
Damn, how on earth did the FDA approve this drug, when they're whining about Ephedrine! lol.

Questions:

1) I'd like to take it, to lose stubborn fat, and get ripped, BUT!!

* I have a business to run during the day. I need to relax, work, meet people, use my brain. I can't let it affect that. I can't spend 7 hours a day sweating, major ass headache, up 22 hours a day with no sleep. What about that effect?

I will let Dr Macro tell you whether or not to use it. But there is no headache from it.

2) I workout every day. Will this effect my workout? and i'll get more tired, or hurt myself?

No you will definately not get tired. Yes it will effect your workout. It will be better. Not unless you are unusually clumsy

3) Do i still need to use yohimburn df?

Yes if you have problem areas which is what it's for.

4) Can you ship a packet of maybe 3-5 pills as a tryout sample, and if we "survive" it, then we'll order the whole package? I feel scared ordering a whole bottle and almost dying on the first day!

We were giving a sample away with every order at the AF Store. We have stopped that because we are now oversold on THERMOREXIN and we need it to fill orders. When we get more this week we may start again but I don't know for sure.
The second statement, again I will leave to Dr Macro

Canada:

If anyone REALLY needs to get this, i guess u can ship it here, and i can ship it to you in Canada by throwing the pills in another bottle. I used to live there, so i know how annoying it can get! Just pay for my time. :)

-= nav =-
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Ok, I feel fine taking one cap. Like I said, more alert feeling, a little hot if I do something...nothing major though.

My workout tonight is 9pm, and I go to bed at 12. Think taking another cap around 8:15 would keep me up all night?
 
JG1 I think taking one in place of your daily NYC is just the right start. I wouldn't try taking one at night yet. By the 3rd day you should be ok for 2, but see how you feel. There are going to those who have been on NYC or other stims that won't get the same jolt that those who are starting clean will get.

MrM You took one and lived to post about it. That's good, you're right.
 
LMAO

...this is like a reality TV show....


As the World Burns....
 
OK First day of training in 8 days. This is when I am really sucking wind. The first day after a lay off. I am using 2 THERMOREXIN's a day now. One at 7 one at 12. Great workout today. I could have done the whole thing over again (with a lot less weight of course). Lots of stamina. Lots. I felt like I didn't miss a day.
Dr Macro, lord of fat removal, has really outdone himself this time.
 
Supernav, That's an introductory sale price. The retail is $90. In case you didn't notice there are 180 capsules in that bottle. It may last you over 3 months. If you do a little comparison shopping you'll find that it's about half of what others are charging for products that are no where near as good.

You won't get headaches when you come off. You'll just be tired.
The shaky thing is only if you don't eat. If you do it stops. And again that's only in the first hour two and may not happen to you at all.
 
supernav said:
$54/bottle + shipping. Ouch! anyone in la wanna go dutch on a bottle to split it and try it out? Lot of money if it is too jittery and can't use it. That shaking and sweating all day is of concern. Not to mention any side-effects if u try to get off it (like what happened to me after i tried to get off Xenadrine cold-turkey. Headaches for almost 2 weeks. Not good).

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I thought 54 bucks was pretty high at first too, but when you consider how many pills you need a day and how many are in the bottle (180), then the price doesn't seem so bad. Maybe i'll try this after I'm done my dnp cycle.
 
Hey Macro, let me know when MP technologies starts hiring. Ill have a BS in biochem in ~2yrs and Id love to work for an innovator :D
 
Dial_tone said:
At this rate you guys will have "Contest In A Bottle" ready by 2004. End your bulk cycle the day before your show, take a few swigs of Contest In A Bottle and voila - 4% bodyfat over night.
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Bwahahahaha :)

JG1: keep us posted! It sounds interesting.
 
Dial_tone said:
Now if you can just tweak it so it doesn't make you sweat I'll take a 5 year supply.
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same for me, i work outeside all day in south florida, ulter, you know how hot it is out here. make some shit that has the same fat burning effect without makin you extra hot and id pay triple the amount.
but im gonna buy a bottle of what you have for my girlfriend.
 
Axe said:
Ulter:

You say that you need a stimulant like NYC to come off this because the crash is very hard. You have been on it for approx 1 wk I believe, have you or any one tried going off of it? Is there a daily crash?

Thanks,

Axe
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Got mine today took 2, 1 hour before cardio (3 mile fast walk) and 3 hours of martial arts class (sparing night).

I felt more alert during class , was like everthing was thru a 1x scope lol.

Noticed a little more sweat than normal nothing major. Thou i do seem to sweat doing anything besides sitting. Pulse and BP all normal.

Least i can actually tell i took it, unlike all the eca stacks i've tried.

Quess i'm highly resistant. :rolleyes:
 
supernav said:
Questions:

I usually work out in the morning on an empty stomach. This is to maximize yohimburn, and i eat usually 2 hours after working out.

So WHEN do you suggest i take a thermo pill? Cuz you say if i take it with no food, it's gonna start an earthquake inside of me. So should i wait til after my workout and THEN take it with a meal? But then my workout won't have the extra "umph" right?

What do you suggest? I'm stumped.

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I strongly suggest you eat something. I have spoken to 7 people today who have tried it and Dr Macro is the only one who doesn't get nauseous or shaky from it on an empty stomach.
The THERMOREXIN is going to shove that food through you very quickly anyway. Just eat very light. Anything really.

You really really want to take this before you train.



Forster said:
Got mine today took 2, 1 hour before cardio (3 mile fast walk) and 3 hours of martial arts class (sparing night).

I felt more alert during class , was like everthing was thru a 1x scope lol.

Noticed a little more sweat than normal nothing major. Thou i do seem to sweat doing anything besides sitting. Pulse and BP all normal.

Least i can actually tell i took it, unlike all the eca stacks i've tried.

Quess i'm highly resistant. :rolleyes:
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That's really great news bro. If you don't respond to ECA, like many other people, this will be just what you needed.
 
I decided to take two today. My first dose at 2:30, and my second at 7pm. I didn't want to take it too late, however tomorrow I'm going to take it at 8 (I train at 9pm) cause I don't feel to bad right now.

So tomorrow I'm going to do 3 caps, one at 8am on an empty stomach before my morning cardio (60 minutes on the treadmill), another one at 2:30, and the third at 8pm.
 
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