Just got T levels back

First off, Let me give mad props to SPECTRE for advising me to get my test levels checked since I've had a vasectomy. Thx for the look out bro. You prbly just saved me yrs of no gains.

I went to my doc to get a regular physical b/c I suspected my test levels were low after talking with spectre. Normal levels are between 260 and 1000. Mine came back at 133. Going back to the doc monday for more blood work. He sz that if these come back low I'm off to the endocrinoligist for more tests and if they come back normal than HRT.

I've never cycled before so I'm just naturally shut down. I'm 28 yrs old 6' 240, but since the chop job i've been holding adipose fat like a motha. Now I know why. Point of the post is heads up to the guys that have had a vasectomy. You might want to have yours checked.

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Bros, there may be something to this. There have been previous threads on this. Another factor may be that natural test levels can drop rapidly after the 20s. Most bros that have been clipped are probably in thier 30s or getting close. I'm 36 and have been snipped. End of last year I was shut down hard after a cycle, and it took me 6 months and several HCG/nolv/clomid runs just to get test up to 400. I suspect that's as high as my natural levels will go. So, while that's technically in the normal range, it damn sure isn't optimal, and, I may have difficulty recovering to that level (I guess I'll find out, my last inject of this cycle was last night ).

Anyway, good post.....

I just called my w/o partner who also had a vasectomy and told him to go get his checked. He too is holding more fat these days. Anybody know how much test the give you on HRT? I would like to have my levels at the top off the range for a change.

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Bros, there may be something to this. There have been previous threads on this. Another factor may be that natural test levels can drop rapidly after the 20s. Most bros that have been clipped are probably in thier 30s or getting close. I'm 36 and have been snipped. End of last year I was shut down hard after a cycle, and it took me 6 months and several HCG/nolv/clomid runs just to get test up to 400. I suspect that's as high as my natural levels will go. So, while that's technically in the normal range, it damn sure isn't optimal, and, I may have difficulty recovering to that level (I guess I'll find out, my last inject of this cycle was last night ).

Anyway, good post.....

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Fuck man, I'm 26 with natural test levels at 426.. no cycle history or anything.. if that isn't optimal then what's it gonna do at 30+! And no I've never had a vasectomy.

easy said:

I just called my w/o partner who also had a vasectomy and told him to go get his checked. He too is holding more fat these days. Anybody know how much test the give you on HRT? I would like to have my levels at the top off the range for a change.

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From what I hear they start you off slow, with the gels at the lowest possible dose. Then they check and up the dose as needed, but the max without injections is still very low. And they wait until the VERY last minute to go the injection route.

easy, I did the same as you (vasectomy included). I went to the doc suspecting the same and my bloodwork came back 225 which was low enough for my doc to send me to an endocrinoligist (133!You must have felt like you had one foot in the grave being that low?). The endo doc told me of the different methods, we agreed on the gel to start. So he gave me a script for 3mos. + 3 refills of gel 5mg and told me to let him know if this was working. I can definately feel the difference. But I believe I'm going to call on Monday and ask if I can get the needle. I need all the help I can get being 41 and trying to play competetive softball with the young pups.

P.S. I'd like to know how to get 100% absorbtion out of the gels.
I'm trying a little dsmo around the foot and ankle right now but it's a pain in the ass. Too bad nobodies tested out a way to make an injectable w/this stuff. I hate to waste 90% of it.

First of all, I could never understand why anyone would get a vasectomy. The idea of a sharp object getting within 2 feet of my testicles makes me shudder. And not to be the bearer of bad news, it looks as if men with vascectomies have a greater affinity for prostate problems too. Sorry guys. No disrespect or anything -- I'm just saying it as a warning to others.

The normal HRT is either the gel (expensive w/o insurance) or 200 mgs of T every two weeks. The thinking among ex "cyclers" has been 200mgs a week is better but personally, I found 100 mgs every 5 days to be optimum.

You can't get 100% absorption from the gel, just like you can't utilize 100% of what you inject. Instead, use Avena Sativa and/or Nettles to free up more bound testosterone.

As far as the vasectomy, I kinda felt obligated after the wife was on the pill for 10 years. Also, I knew I didn't want anymore kids anyway. Don't get me wrong I had trouble with it and myself as a man at first but that feeling subsided as well as the slight difference in ejaculating (like being bount up). It is very relieving not having to worry about child support though.

I want to be a little more than normal. Hopefully the doc gives me the same quantity w/the injectable as he did w/the gel. I'll be set for quite a while.

I've read about the Avena Sativa/Nettles. I just placed an order this morning with BAC for some SEX-TIVA along w/some other stuff.

Yeah, I guess asking for 100% was abit much, I guess I meant comparable to injection.