Testosterone Enanthate and Masteron First Cycle

Hey guys! My name is Leonardo, I'm 21, from Brazil. FYI: We have GREAT labs here... Heisenberg Labs, Body Labs, Growth Company... these are the best in case any of you are wondering. It is REALLY reliable.

For starters, the reason I'm cycling is simple. Not to get freaky or even get bitches. I want perfect symmetry and proportion. Long story short, I was addicted to computer games and had a fucked up form. I had a brilliant ideia to start lifting ALONE, and kept it like that for almost a year. Since I had a fucked up form and weak lower back... I have HUGE symmetry problems. My left lat is SO MUCH smaller than my right lat. My shoulders are small and my posterior delt is not even there. I was able to get a better proportion and I've been trying to get my symmetry right for almos 8 months now and I see LITTLE difference. Therefore, the goal is to get symmetrical and proportional with quality gains together with a nice muscle density.

So, here is some basic info you guys should know about me:
Age: 21
Years of Training: 1 Year 8 Months
Weight: 74kg (~165ibs)
Height: 1,67m (5ft6)
BF%: 14%
Arms: 38cm
Chest: 101cm
Legs: 63cm
Calves: 42cm

Cycle...
This will be my first cycle
Goal: Symetry and proportion.

During all Cycle and PCT:
Colesterol from foods (~2g/day)
OxiMega Omega-3 (6g/day)
NOW Zinc Picolinate (50mg/day)
NOW Indole-3-carbinol (400mg/day)
NOW Vitamin D3 (10.000ui/day)
OxiMega Omega-3 - 3x/Day w/ Meals
NOW Zinco Picolinate - Before Bed
NOW Indole-3-Carbinol - Before Bed
NOW Vitamin D3 - 2x/Day (Early Morning and Early Afternoon)

Protocol:
1-9 Masteron (150mg/ED)
1-8 Testosterone Enantathate (200mg 2x/Week)
2-9 HCG (250ui 2x/Week)
HCG - At Wakening

PCT Protocol:
*15 Days After Last Enanthate Injection.
1-4 Aromasin* (12.5mg/EOD)
1-4 L-Dopa (480mg/Day)
1-4 Iodine (325mcg/Day)
1-4 Vitamin E (500ui 2x/Day)
1-4 Pregnenolone (50mg/Day)
Aromasin - Morning w/ Meal
L-DOPA - Before Bed w/ Meal
Iodine - At Wakening
Vitamin E - ​​Morning w/ Meal and Afternoon w/ Meal
Pregnenolone - Morning w/ Meal
Observation*: Thinking on doing Aromasin 6.25mg/EOD and if needed up to ED. Might change IA to Anastrozole.

Diet (Based on lean muscle mass): Carbs. at ~6-7g/kg, protein at ~2.5g/kg, and fats at ~3g/kg.

Breakfest:
1g Vitamina C At Wakening
Whole Eggs
Eggwhites
Olive Oil
1 Scoop OxiMega Greens
Orange Triad Multivitamin
2g OxiMega Omega-3

Morning snack:
Pro Complex Gainer
Oatmeal
Probiotic NOW
Banana
Brazil Nuts
Salad*

Lunch:
Brown Rice
Lean Meat
Sweet Potato
Salad*

Afternoon Snack (3:20):
Chicken Breast
Olive Oil
Brazil Nuts
Salad*

Afternoon Snack (4:40):
Whole Eggs
Eggwhites
Brazil nuts
Olive Oil

Pre-Workout Supplementation:
10g BCAA Cellucor
1g Vitamina C

Post-Workout Supplementation:
½ Scoop Syntha-6
Banana

Dinner (Solid Post-Workout 1h After Training):
Pineapple
Sweet Potato
Lean Meat
Olive Oil
Salad*
Orange Triad Multivitamin

Before bed:
½ Scoop Syntha-6
Eggwhites
Avocado
2g OxiMega Omega-3
1 Scoop Greens OxiMega
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Salad Contains:
Chives
Coriander
Spinach (Raw)
Beet
Broccoli (~ 50-60g)
Cauliflower (~ 50-60g)
Carrot
Tomato
Ginger (Raw)

Seasoning Meat / Chicken:
Garlic
Onion

Training: Intense ABC 2x + 20 min. low intensity cardio.
Focusing on symmetry and proportion, exercises based on weaknesses.

Note: The diet above is just to give you guys a raw idea of what it is gonna be like. I WILL make nescessary changes. And I AM open for comments! The diet somewhat resembles the CBL, a diet that was introduced to me not long agor, therefore I'm still adapting to it, learning about it, living with it, etc. If you guys have any tips, feel free to comment!

Supplementation: Pro Complex Gainer, Syntha-6, BCAA Cellucor, Orange Triad Multivitamin, OxiMega Greens, OxiMega Omega-3, 5-HTP, NOW Magnesium Citrate, NOW Zinc Picolinate, NOW Vitamin D3, NOW 8 Billion... (Probiotic), NOW Liquid Melatonin, NOW Alpha GPC.

Questions:
1) How long before the PCT do I stop using HCG? I did some research and found that HCG has an active life of 5 days. Should I stop 15 days before the TPC then? Or just run it untill a week before, or maybe even few days before?

2) I feel like I'm going to hit homeostasis really fast because of the doses and drugs which im going to run, without alterations, the whole cycle. Should I make a change intra-cycle to break homeostasis (up dose for example?)

PS: I feel like I'm forgetting something. If you guys feel something missing, please notify.

Dude few things:

First off you are too young to start a cycle. You have obviously done some research but your PCT protocol is way off. Secondly you havent put in the time at the gym to be doing roids. I didn't start until I had 7-8 years of training. You really haven't pay your dues yet.

But you'll do what you'll do, so here are some critiques on your cycle:

Never use HCG during PCT as it is suppressive of your LH and FSH, it should be used weekly during cycle at 500iu or to kickstart PCT. You are using long esters (test E) and the active life is 10.5 days, which means you should start your PCT around 12 days after your last shot. You can go at 250iu EOD for two weeks immediately after your last shot of Test.

You should use Nolva as a PCT, not "just in case" there will inevitably be estrogen rebound and you need Nolva for recovery. Using aromasin is also crucial throughout the cycle and for PCT.

As for Test E don't bother running it for 9 weeks, you need 10-12 weeks to really reap the benefits. The masteron is a nice touch to free up available Test but you won't see much of an effect from it unless you are looking to cut a little.


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drop like every single thing in that pct and then get a serm. Check out ag guys. DHEA and preg is a joke. Check out ag guys for serms.

So, as of the PCT...
I've been studying hormone variations for a long time now. I've notice that the conventional PCT (with SERM's) makes the problems worse after the cycle.
Tamoxifen: Tamoxifen binds competitively to the estrogen receptors and inhibits the estrogen EFFECTS (not production) in selective tissues. However, the estrogen receptor upregulation increases the chances to increase estrogen in other tissues (even more when the use is discontinued since the testosterone will decrease and the increase in estrogen continues). It elevates the LH increasing testosterone, however, it doesn't keep you from aromatizing that will be provenient from this increase. Since its a very fast increase. Tamoxifen also upregulates the receptors of progesterone, increases SHBG, affects negatively thyroid hormones which in medium term will lower dopamine and consequently increase prolactin and lowering testosterone after the use is discontinued. Not to mention that tamoxifen has a negative impact on IGF-1.
Clomifen: Just like tamoxifen, the fast elevation of LH and testosterone by Clomifen will increase aromatization of testosterone into estrogen and since Clomifen is no IA, it wont do much about the aromatization. Like tamoxifen, clomifen will affect thyroid hormones since it acts as a estrogen. Clomifen also impacts negatively on IGF-1.

Bottom line: Any external resource that increases your levels will have feedback, and the example above with the fast elevation of LH and Testosterone, it will have a negative feedback. After the conventional PCT your hormones WILL be worse than when you got out of the cycle. The hormonal glands will be fatigued and you WILL have depression and all side effects you have heard of. How many PCT's haven't you heard that after it was done the guy was depressed? Or dismotivated? People ilude themselves with exams, that testosterone level is a FALSE POSITIVE. When you stop tamoxifen or clomifen, your levels WILL LOWER. Besides all of that. We NEED to think on our thyroid hormones, dopamine, humor, all of these are important hormones we need to think about. Bodybuilding isnt just about estrogen and testosterone guys...
Theres Zinc, Omega-3, Vitamin D3, Tyrosin, Taurine, Indole-3-Carbinol and so on... So many things we can use to control dopamine, prolactin, thyroid, estrogen, testosterone, and so on... Open your minds. I DID forget to put the IA and L-Tyrosine there, that was my bad.


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Too young
BF% too high
NOT TRAINING LONG ENOUGH TO CONSIDER AAS

Something I would focus on based on your post is strengthening your core, if you were a gamer and sitting for so long your core is probably quite weak

Yeah EZ_E, but im not cycling now. I'll cut to at least 9% before cycling. I do have a weak core and lower back. Im working on my weaknesses so i dont end up with lesions (idk if thats the work) and articulation problems due too bad posture.


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Cbmelo97 said:

Yeah EZ_E, but im not cycling now. I'll cut to at least 9% before cycling. I do have a weak core and lower back. Im working on my weaknesses so i dont end up with lesions (idk if thats the work) and articulation problems due too bad posture.


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Now you're talking....this may help you:

Core Exercises: Demonstrations by Dylan Gemelli - YouTube

Roids won't make you more symmetrical.

You need to start lifting seriously.

Your PCT sucks/

Clomid blows and nolva is worse.

You are far too young and underdeveloped to be using steroids at this point.

You need to learn how to lift right and eat right to build a proper foundation. I would to recommend doing anything more than sarms at this point.

You are far too young and underdeveloped to be using steroids at this point.

You need to learn how to lift right and eat right to build a proper foundation. I would to recommend doing anything more than sarms at this point.

Being 100% open I am always nice but I think with you I have to be blunt. You are giving people advice when you haven't even done a 1st cycle. You need to learn to walk before you can run. It's good that you are detailed and planned but all of that post was pretty much a waste. You want to do a first cycle and but you obviously aren't doing things right. 14% bf is too high imo... get leaner before starting. You want your slin sensitivity as high as possible and low body fat for when you start your cycle. 150mg mast per day and you say about upping it if you plateau.

I am not gonna lecture you due to age. Although I do think you are too young for aas... I would wait till you are at least 23. The big thing is you have only been training for less than 2 years. If you were 21 and had been training solidly for 5 years things would be a bit different.

You need to change so much of what you have planned. You do have the right approach in regards to some aspects though... good to see someone so detailed who has put some thought into things. But some of the info you have researched on your way is off.

You are right about pct in many ways though. Guys do these huge pcts full of artificial hormones and they think they have recovered as they feel good. But they very rarely stay off that long and soon jump back on thinking they recovered. PCT should be relatively short but effective with setting you up for proper recovery. Your pct is shit though so that needs to change too. Good luck with thins and ideally start with a better base.

I appreciate all the comments guy! I hope you guys noticed i made changes throught the days. I made some morr cha ges but i cant edit the post for some reason. But everyone seems to say my pct is shit because it isnt nolvs and clomid 40/40/20/20.
Seriously? I never got the idea of why someone on a mild first cycle would have the same pct (40/40/20/20) as a 110kg guy on his 5th cycle. Or even why a guy doing a 8-12 week cycle would use tamoxifen 40/40/20/20 and a guy cruising after months on gear would use the same doses. What is the reasoning behind this? One of the few comments I awknwoledge and is actually a comcrete critic is Elvia's comment. But I dont really see my pct is shit. Is MASTERON which doenst aromatise. An IA such as aromasin for this cycle on this dose is MORE than enough. My testes will be sensitive to respond to LH due tue the HCG intra cycle, L-DOPA will take care of dopamine and control prolactin, iodine will take care of thyroid which also affects prolactin and WILL help me keep a STABLE post cycle, Preg is the KING of hormonres and my body WILL use the preg and convert it to any hormone needed at the moment, the vitamin d3 indole-3-carbinol and zinc will help control e2... Everything there has a reson. Even in the diet...



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PS: ik i need to cut up to at least 9% before i start the cycle. As i wrote "in about 6monts i'll be ready". Not now, not tomorrow, in 6 months. So dont worry about this detail


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at your age is NORMAL to not have symmetry, you don't just magically get it after 8 months of working out lol come on bro. you gotta work at it..

I remember I was 15 when I started lifting and my traps were so uneven guys would make fun of me when I flexed... it took a few years but they became symmetrical WITHOUT using roids. so just keep lifting you don't need roids right now, you said yourself your goals were not to be a monster and just to build symmetry, I will tell you roids will make your imbalances WORSE, not better.

Yeah, my lats are a joke. Thats why i've been going to doctors (idk how do u call this specific doctor in english, its for posture and bone/joint problems) but where i live in brazil its really rare to find this guys. So im talking to many trainers and for about 8months im doing unilaterals and training 2x week my weakpoints. My shoulders definetly got better but my lats dont fucking change. They got bigger but still, in a unsymetrical form where my left lat is still a lot smaller. I did improve, but VERY little. Its like the right lat was growin at a x100% rate and the left maybe 50%-60%


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