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Have you ever had abs like this?

Lestat said:
No matter what I do in life, I can at least say I had abs at some point. I'll cherish this picture if I ever turn into an obese fatty:
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Good work, bro. I can feel mine, but I've never seen them.. One day. :rolleyes:
 
healother said:
how does one defined under-nourished? When you have to be hungry to look like that?
when I'm cutting or have really low bf%, i'm constantly hungry.

when I'm bulking, I'm never hungry :(
 
jackangel said:
when you say "abs like this", is it merely for reference? or are you saying that you're ripped (i.e. impressively lean) in those pics?
reference.

if you want to generalized, lets say "visible"
 
PWTurbofan said:
What do y'all do for abs? I got one of those "ab wheel" thingers - just a plastic wheel with a rod thru it. Seems to be treating my abs nicely. Also do weighted situps on a decline bench. But no matter what I do, my lower two abs never pop out. I know diet plays a huge role in this, and I guess because of that I'll always have a measly semi-4-pack. I've been eating clean, but eating a boatload of clean trying to bulk a bit. My lower abs love to retain fat.
for the lower, I found that hanging leg lifts (start with knees bend then work up to straight legs) worked them the best.

I also did massiave amounts of crunches, sets of 50 for up to 200 per day. Weighted crunches. Plus some of that ab roller nonsense with the wheel (least effective in my opinion).
 
samoth said:
I work out for myself, not to 'show off' to a bunch of strangers. I don't give a damn what people think of me or my physique... it is my vice, and I am the only judge and critique of it. Pretty CK boys can suck it -- they're just superficial and trying to show off something to others in order to boost their own self esteem ("oooh, lookit all the girls checkin' me out, man"). My love is with the iron and pushing myself, not caring about what other people think.



:cow:
I'm the type that does it to show off for others and boost my self esteem.
 
that's fair enough. i haven't maintained the discipline needed. i was on track like over 2 years ago, but i got stoned. lmao. also, i blame the middle east. now i'm being a good boy, but i'm also skinny as fuck and haven't worked out since 3/2004 (excluding the last 2-3 weeks back in the gym). thus, i'm hoping to walk the line and shed the remainder of this small "gut" (guessing i'm at 13-14%?) and lean out in general, but while also adding some muscle mass back. even eating a clean 1700-2000 calories a day is a chore. and that may just barely be enough to go above maintenance and gain some mass (i'm about 155) back, depending on my overall activity level. hopefully things like cardio and yohimburn make some difference.

and this notion of the superiority of strength and doing something strictly for one's self, while fine (and something that i appreciate because i want strength), is ultimately no better than lifting to look good for both yourself and others. if you try to justify it on an objective basis, you will fail. so do your thang and do it well, whatever it is.
 
jackangel said:
that's fair enough. i haven't maintained the discipline needed. i was on track like over 2 years ago, but i got stoned. lmao. also, i blame the middle east. now i'm being a good boy, but i'm also skinny as fuck and haven't worked out since 3/2004 (excluding the last 2-3 weeks back in the gym). thus, i'm hoping to walk the line and shed the remainder of this small "gut" (guessing i'm at 13-14%?) and lean out in general, but while also adding some muscle mass back. even eating a clean 1700-2000 calories a day is a chore. and that may just barely be enough to go above maintenance and gain some mass (i'm about 155) back, depending on my overall activity level. hopefully things like cardio and yohimburn make some difference.

and this notion of the superiority of strength and doing something strictly for one's self, while fine (and something that i appreciate because i want strength), is ultimately no better than lifting to look good for both yourself and others. if you try to justify it on an objective basis, you will fail. so do your thang and do it well, whatever it is.
good luck with your goals bro.

if I were you I'd start out lifting heavy and bump those calories up and just resign yourself to the fact that you'll be a little soft throughout the fall/winter.

Then about feb/march time, cut back on the diet, add in some cardio, and melt that fat off revealing all of your hard earned results.
 
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