HPTA Facts

Posted: 20-Aug-2004 01:33 PM

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Excerpt: As athletes, we are most concerned with the "PT" part of the HPTA. "P" being the pituitary and "T" being the Testes. To review, our hormonal responses are based mainly on negative feedback. For example, supragenetic levels of Testosterone or any AAS will signal the pituitary to stop secreting LH and will signal the hypothalamus to stop secretin...

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Old 20-Aug-2004, 01:33 PM   #1

As athletes, we are most concerned with the "PT" part of the hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - . "P" being the pituitary and "T" being the Testes. To review, our hormonal responses are based mainly on negative feedback. For example, supragenetic levels of testosterone or any anabolic steroids will signal the pituitary to stop secreting lh - leutenizing hormone - and will signal the hypothalamus to stop secreting gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GRH). So, during an anabolic steroids cycle, we experience low, natural Testos levels, a reduction in testuclar mass, low lh - leutenizing hormone - , and low GRH. The goal of PCT (recovery) is to get the hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - back to normal.

The most important aspect of recovery is getting testicular mass back to normal as quickly as possible. There is only one drug that will do this and do it quickly--HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - imitates lh - leutenizing hormone - (which is suppressed). HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - acts independently of the hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - suppression and independent of the meds from the anabolic steroids cycle. In this situation, the only side effect we need to worry about is the return of estrogen to normal levels (estrogen rebound). Since estrogen is already at very low levels (the athlete used an aromatase inhibitor during his anabolic steroids cycle), Nolvadex is sufficient to block the onrush. By the time the athlete is using nolvadex-only, his testes are up to their normal size. And the pituitary begins to release its own lh - leutenizing hormone - .
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Old 21-Aug-2004, 01:21 PM   #2

always good information Doc. you are certainly an asset to this board
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Old 23-Aug-2004, 08:51 AM   #3
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so you recommend this treatment even fo a 8 week cycle 250 mg test every 5 days?
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Old 23-Aug-2004, 09:09 AM   #4
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thanks doc.....
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Old 23-Aug-2004, 01:10 PM   #5
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Quote posted by UA_Iron
always good information Doc. you are certainly an asset to this board

Ditto!
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Old 24-Aug-2004, 10:25 PM   #6

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so you recommend this treatment even fo a 8 week cycle 250 mg test every 5 days?
Yes. Why does everyone think they are not suppressed if they use less than 1g a week? You would be suppressed using Test Gel.
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Old 29-Aug-2004, 10:42 AM   #7
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even if you did 200mgs eow PCT is still crucial
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Old 11-Nov-2004, 12:39 AM   #8
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I know this thread is a bit old, but can anyone explain to me why some people so fervently oppose the use of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - in PCT?

I've heard that it actually supresses natural test production when used in PCT?

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Old 11-Nov-2004, 08:53 PM   #9
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What would PCT look like if you were usin HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500IU 2x a week during ur cycle.
I know DrJMW disagrees with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - use while on cycle, but it just makes more sence on keeping ur nuts working the whole time than trying to bring them back from the dead?

What are the cons about using HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - during cycle?

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Old 13-Nov-2004, 06:40 AM   #10
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ok im going to do anavar 30mg a day for 8 weeks do i need to take and PCT for this drug i didnt think that Var would nock out my test levels !!?? i have 30 20mg novadex but that a est drug not good for test recovery ,any ideas thx shmie
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