5 1/2 month PCT ??

[ws26champny]

I was on a cycle for abour 5 1/2 months...

500mg of Sustanon a week...1oo mg of tren eod for 10 shots in the middle...

For PCT im on nolvadex 60/40/20/20
PCT support
Lean Extreme
Primordial Performance's TRS

im on about day 10 of pct...

libido is ehhh...i fuck for a long time and cant cum unless i try hard lol and my nuts feel sort of desenstised...

my erections arent full also...

what can i do do help this, or should this change soon with the pct im using...

Thanks!

 

[Olivelawn]

I was on a cycle for abour 5 1/2 months...

500mg of Sustanon a week...1oo mg of tren eod for 10 shots in the middle...

For PCT im on nolvadex 60/40/20/20
PCT support
Lean Extreme
Primordial Performance's TRS

im on about day 10 of pct...

libido is ehhh...i fuck for a long time and cant cum unless i try hard lol and my nuts feel sort of desenstised...

my erections arent full also...


what can i do do help this, or should this change soon with the pct im using...

Thanks!

You're crashing right now. It's going to get dramatically worse if you do the same thing right now.

Get some d-bol and use 10mg every morning right now. HCG @ 1,500ius EOD for 2-3 weeks. Clomid 100mg a day for starters.

 

[ws26champny]

what is wrong w/ the PCT protocol i have in place right now???

 

[dmc777]

You're crashing right now. It's going to get dramatically worse if you do the same thing right now.

Get some d-bol and use 10mg every morning right now. HCG @ 1,500ius EOD for 2-3 weeks. Clomid 100mg a day for starters.

WTF get some Dbol? You do not want bridge that's for sure! I agree with the HCG though, if you didn't run any during the cycle then you're probably gonna have to do some now along with an AI to help block the aromatization. Look at the thread title perfect pct for 2009 and it should list a pct for not running hcg during cycle.

 

[Olivelawn]

WTF get some Dbol? You do not want bridge that's for sure! I agree with the HCG though, if you didn't run any during the cycle then you're probably gonna have to do some now along with an AI to help block the aromatization. Look at the thread title perfect pct for 2009 and it should list a pct for not running hcg during cycle.

It's not a bridge. Do you have any idea WHY this is good for him?

The perfect PCT for 2009 lists OTC products that do NOT work without SERMS.

 

[dmc777]

It's been my understanding that if you want want to restore your hpta then you should discontinue use of all aas including dbol. It will just further inhibit his recovery and I'm sure more experienced users would agree. I just don't see where you're going with this and what like to here someone elses opinion. He's needs to go to an endo actually.

 

[Olivelawn]

It's been my understanding that if you want want to restore your hpta then you should discontinue use of all aas including dbol. It will just further inhibit his recovery and I'm sure more experienced users would agree. I just don't see where you're going with this and what like to here someone elses opinion. He's needs to go to an endo actually.

Sorry, I'm not even going to argue with you. You're just being ignorant.

However, I would like you to define "more experienced users" please.

 

[dmc777]

Yea I don't want to argue either bro everyone has an opinion. I'd just like to hear others opinion on running dbol during pct that's all. I just don't think it's a good idea but if you've had success with then great. I agree he needs to run some hcg and an ai though. But honestly, being on a cycle that long I'd go to an experienced endo. I may start thread about running dbol during pct cause you've got me curious now.

 

[EXTREMEBOWHNTR]

Good luck bro its going to be a rough road ahead!!!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

It's not a bridge. Do you have any idea WHY this is good for him?

The perfect PCT for 2009 lists OTC products that do NOT work without SERMS.

Dbol works for a good pree pct but that is it. We are talking about a steroid and its a fact you can not fully recover well on steroids.

Also the products in this thread and the science behind them work. They have helped hundreds of thousands of people already and many more to come.

I like proviron better for pree pct though. Better with bringing down estrogen then dbol is.

 

[dmc777]

Dbol works for a good pree pct but that is it. We are talking about a steroid and its a fact you can not fully recover well on steroids.

Also the products in this thread and the science behind them work. They have helped hundreds of thousands of people already and many more to come.

I like proviron better for pree pct though. Better with bringing down estrogen then dbol is.

Needtoo could you elaborate on what you mean by Dbol works for a good pre pct? Should you discontinue use of all orals atleast 10 days up until pct?

 

[needtogetaas]

Needtoo could you elaborate on what you mean by Dbol works for a good pre pct? Should you discontinue use of all orals atleast 10 days up until pct?

Well droping the cycle and then going with a light dose of say dbol or proviron for a wile is said to allow some recovery. some people like the idea. use a light dose of am dbol for 2-3 weeks after a cycle and then do pct as always. Some people like to go even longer.

I really put no faith in it but some do. Now I do like the idea of a proviron pree pct. That is just use prov 50mg ed for 2-3 weeks after a cycle. Then start a pct as if you were coming of any short ester cycle. Which would be right away.

 

[dmc777]

Hmmm....damnit I may have to order some Proviron now lol.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Olivelawn every steroid is a derivitave of test, therfore your body will not recover fully if its still getting exogenous test. The fastest way to get back to normal test levels is to raise the endogenous test. Exogenous test just makes it worse.

See an endo and get blood tests and see what exactly is the problem, its gotta be low test maybe high estrogen too. Start takin HCG and an AI and maybe some clomid for now!

 

[Olivelawn]

Olivelawn every steroid is a derivitave of test, therfore your body will not recover fully if its still getting exogenous test. The fastest way to get back to normal test levels is to raise the endogenous test. Exogenous test just makes it worse.

See an endo and get blood tests and see what exactly is the problem, its gotta be low test maybe high estrogen too. Start takin HCG and an AI and maybe some clomid for now!

If you say so Bro. I guess that the following study would then be void?

Let´s talk about how Proviron affects your HPTA (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis) & the thing that regulates the male hormonal system. When a reasonable dose of this stuff is given (100-150mgs/day), it had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels (6). Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Leutenizing Hormone (LH) are two hormones which send a signal to your testes to produce testosterone. Good news for people considering it for PCT is that it can even raise your LH (10)! Thus, by not suppressing those hormones and maybe even raising some, your normal testosterone levels will remain intact. This points to a novel use for this compound during Post-Cycyle-Therapy for a non-suppressive "bridge" between cycles. In fact, in yet another study, administration of Proviron (basically the same dose as in the last study) produced no changes in steroids, thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL (Prolactin Levels& you want those to remain low). (8).

 

[the.gladiator1987]

I wasnt talking about proviron, I was talking about dbol! You pointed out dbol earlier

 

[Olivelawn]

I wasnt talking about proviron, I was talking about dbol! You pointed out dbol earlier

Yes you're right I was speaking about Dbol.

However your statement of "EVERY steroid is a derivative of test" is inncorrect.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Oh gotcha olive I guess i mean any muscle building steroid? I dont even know anymore lol