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swole's 16 week EQ/Cyp/Var cycle

swole

swole

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Disclaimer: I am not really taking these substances. Everything I say is hypothetical and completely fictitious. Nothing I type in this thread is to be taken literally or considered sound advice. I am pretending to be on AAS and would like to entertain Elite Fitness with a 16 documentary.

Age: 25
Height 5'10"
Starting Weight 205lb
Experience: 2 previous prohormone cycles, 1.5 years of natural lifting since the end of PCT, been hitting the weights since high school and more religiously since college, especially the past 3 years
Goals: 20lbs of lean muscle, low water retention

Target is 5 days of lifting per week with 1 day of cardio. Initial split is chest, back, legs, shoulders, arms. Changes will be made as the cycle progresses. Diet will be full of lean protein, low GI carbs, and hi GI carbs pre and post workout.

WK 1-16 300mg Cyp EW
WK 1-16 450mg EQ EW
WK 7-16 75mg VAR ED

PCT starts 3 weeks after last inject (Clomid, Nolva)

AI on hand, might take some daily to fight water retention.

My first injection thread:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=548104

Issue with first injection:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=548776
 
swole said:
Disclaimer: I am not really taking these substances. Everything I say is hypothetical and completely fictitious. Nothing I type in this thread is to be taken literally or considered sound advice. I am pretending to be on AAS and would like to entertain Elite Fitness with a 16 documentary.

Age: 25
Height 5'10"
Starting Weight 205lb
Experience: 2 previous prohormone cycles, 1.5 years of natural lifting since the end of PCT, been hitting the weights since high school and more religiously since college, especially the past 3 years
Goals: 20lbs of lean muscle, low water retention

Target is 5 days of lifting per week with 1 day of cardio. Initial split is chest, back, legs, shoulders, arms. Changes will be made as the cycle progresses. Diet will be full of lean protein, low GI carbs, and hi GI carbs pre and post workout.

WK 1-16 300mg Cyp EW
WK 1-16 450mg EQ EW
WK 7-16 75mg VAR ED

PCT starts 3 weeks after last inject (Clomid, Nolva)

AI on hand, might take some daily to fight water retention.

My first injection thread:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=548104

Issue with first injection:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=548776
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I would take a daily ai bro deff a good idea
 
Updating my "first injection issue" thread, the swelling and pinkness in my delt is about 90% gone...so I'm good to go. Heat followed by ice did the trick. Next time I'm going to rub that shit in for 10 minutes then take a hot shower. Shoulder finally feels good enough to go through a workout again (tonight).

I've been feeling great all day, my mood has definitely picked up. I know the test is starting to work its way into my system, which I can definitely feel. I can't wait until week 5 or 6 when I can see it working :evil:

My diet is very clean, for breakfast I've been eating pure oatmeal (no sugar) with raisins, nuts, peanut butter, cranberries, brown sugar and eggs on the side with a lipton natural iced tea to drink.

Lunch is generally whole wheat pasta or some sort of meat plate or sandwich.

Pre and post workout shake is the same: frozen strawberries, 1 scoop of whey, 1 tbsp honey, 1 cup fat free milk, 1 cup OJ, 1 serving fat free yogurt, malto/dextrose.
 
swole said:
Updating my "first injection issue" thread, the swelling and pinkness in my delt is about 90% gone...so I'm good to go. Heat followed by ice did the trick. Next time I'm going to rub that shit in for 10 minutes then take a hot shower. Shoulder finally feels good enough to go through a workout again (tonight).

I've been feeling great all day, my mood has definitely picked up. I know the test is starting to work its way into my system, which I can definitely feel. I can't wait until week 5 or 6 when I can see it working :evil:

My diet is very clean, for breakfast I've been eating pure oatmeal (no sugar) with raisins, nuts, peanut butter, cranberries, brown sugar and eggs on the side with a lipton natural iced tea to drink.

Lunch is generally whole wheat pasta or some sort of meat plate or sandwich.

Pre and post workout shake is the same: frozen strawberries, 1 scoop of whey, 1 tbsp honey, 1 cup fat free milk, 1 cup OJ, 1 serving fat free yogurt, malto/dextrose.
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Good idea with the heat followed by ice... I've gotta try it immediately. Are you putting any whey in your oatmeal?

...looking forward to week 5-6 too bro... :evilking:
 
Virtuoso said:
Good idea with the heat followed by ice... I've gotta try it immediately. Are you putting any whey in your oatmeal?

...looking forward to week 5-6 too bro... :evilking:
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Eh yo! I figure the peanut butter I add gives me plenty of protein for the morning. I get my oatmeal at work where it's cheap. I could bring a scoop of whey with me from home...thanks for the idea.

Today's delt workout was unreal, it felt amazing to really hit 'em hard. Delts are something I've always wanted to really concentrate on this cycle, along with legs. I swear something is up in my system, because what I am feeling is not a placebo. It's been 6 days since my first injection.

Some chick at work called me a meat stick today. I immediately assumed she wanted the sawseege. That is all nuggas.
 
swole said:
Eh yo! I figure the peanut butter I add gives me plenty of protein for the morning. I get my oatmeal at work where it's cheap. I could bring a scoop of whey with me from home...thanks for the idea.

Today's delt workout was unreal, it felt amazing to really hit 'em hard. Delts are something I've always wanted to really concentrate on this cycle, along with legs. I swear something is up in my system, because what I am feeling is not a placebo. It's been 6 days since my first injection.

Some chick at work called me a meat stick today. I immediately assumed she wanted the sawseege. That is all nuggas.
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Bahahahah, bro she wanted the kielbasa... I can tell your libido is jacked so you better keep us updated with the broads you slay as well!! Seriously this gonna be a summer of destruction in all forms :evil:

Suppose to go out with a lil daisy this Saturday I hope I feel some libido effects by then lol, nothing yet.
 
LOL @

Disclaimer: I am not really taking these substances. Everything I say is hypothetical and completely fictitious. Nothing I type in this thread is to be taken literally or considered sound advice. I am pretending to be on AAS and would like to entertain Elite Fitness with a 16 documentary.
 
I'm in for this one.

LOL @ needto giving sound, experienced medical advice in his injection thread. :rolleyes:

swoles gonna be massive on this one.
 
I forgot to mention i'm running HCG throughout as well (not for PCT though).

My delt is 100% healed. It took 7 full days for the pinkness and swelling to subside. Regardless, I had one of the best delt workouts last night. All swoled up 'n shit. I must have hit all 3 delt heads to failure...felt amazing.

I did my second inject(s) tonight. 1cc in my right quad, .5cc in the left. Both were was smooth as butter. I put my vial in a hot water bath before drawing the liquid. Immediately following the injects, I took a hot shower where thank god nobody could see me because I was doing squats and rubbing both quads under the water stream like an animal. Now I'm chillaxin with a heating pad on each quad wondering what or who I should do tonight.

I've noticed a longer lasting pump throughout the day lately. Tomorrow is the 5th gym day of the week for me, bi's and tri's. I like not having to hit tris on chest day or bis on back day; this way I can work each unit to failure.
 
swole said:
I forgot to mention i'm running HCG throughout as well (not for PCT though).

My delt is 100% healed. It took 7 full days for the pinkness and swelling to subside. Regardless, I had one of the best delt workouts last night. All swoled up 'n shit. I must have hit all 3 delt heads to failure...felt amazing.

I did my second inject(s) tonight. 1cc in my right quad, .5cc in the left. Both were was smooth as butter. I put my vial in a hot water bath before drawing the liquid. Immediately following the injects, I took a hot shower where thank god nobody could see me because I was doing squats and rubbing both quads under the water stream like an animal. Now I'm chillaxin with a heating pad on each quad wondering what or who I should do tonight.

I've noticed a longer lasting pump throughout the day lately. Tomorrow is the 5th gym day of the week for me, bi's and tri's. I like not having to hit tris on chest day or bis on back day; this way I can work each unit to failure.
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why put the vial in hot water?
how painful are your cyp shots bro?
my enan is painless during and right after inject but next day i gotta lay on my stomach! you think i can use 25g 5/8 needle for delt or quad injects? im gonna have to switch it up soon..
 
Virtuoso said:
why put the vial in hot water?
how painful are your cyp shots bro?
my enan is painless during and right after inject but next day i gotta lay on my stomach! you think i can use 25g 5/8 needle for delt or quad injects? im gonna have to switch it up soon..
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My cyp isn't just cyp, it's a mix of cyp and EQ...so 1.5cc is 750mg of total product. It's a fairly thick oil at room temperature so I let it sit in my sink with hot water for a few minutes before injection to lower the viscosity; I think this helped with my quad injects...it was easier to draw as well. I'm using a 23g 1" needle.
 
I've decided to run anavar for 13 weeks at 50mg ED instead of 10 weeks for 75mg ED.

So my cycle looks like this now:

WK 1-16 300mg Test Cyp
WK 1-16 450mg EQ
WK 4-16 50mg Var ED
 
On Friday I shot both my quads. They were sore for 2 days; no pinkness or swelling. My body likes this stuff :)

Placebo or not, I feel focused and hungry. Lifts are steadily going up, but that's mostly in part to my diet and lifting routine being in check. I'm not sure when the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - hunger kicks in, but I've been noticing an increase in appetite...which I appreciate especially since I've been stuffing my face with nothing but the best foods.

My muscles feel and look a tad fuller lately. Libido is up. Energy level is consistently high throughout the day. I can't wait to poke myself again on Friday.
 
Injected 1.5cc's into my left quad today. Everything went smoothly. I worked delts and the pump was insane. I'm feeling an increase in strength and not sure if it's due in part to the test already or juts my strict workout and diet habits. Either way I'm feeling something extra. I already see a small difference in the way I look and realized today that I'm going to be fark huge by the time this is over.

I likey!!
 
swole said:
Injected 1.5cc's into my left quad today. Everything went smoothly. I worked delts and the pump was insane. I'm feeling an increase in strength and not sure if it's due in part to the test already or juts my strict workout and diet habits. Either way I'm feeling something extra. I already see a small difference in the way I look and realized today that I'm going to be fark huge by the time this is over.

I likey!!
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did 1cc in my left quad on thursday... everything was gravy till about 4am when my leg felt like 10 thugs took their bats to it. let me know how it feels tommorow bro lol. have you gained water weight yet?
 
Virtuoso said:
did 1cc in my left quad on thursday... everything was gravy till about 4am when my leg felt like 10 thugs took their bats to it. let me know how it feels tommorow bro lol. have you gained water weight yet?
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last quad shot:

fri - injected
sat - little sore
sun - really sore
mon - not as sore
tue - gone

No water weight, my diet is tighter than a spanish olive. I'm looking more pumped if anything...don't forget I'm only running 300mg test cyp. Test might have started to kick in; I know the EQ is due to surface in 2 weeks. Anavar starts very soon as well. I look bigger in the traps/delts. Strength is up as is endurance, mildly. Nothing drastic yet, but I feel it's on the brink. I'll keep you updated with the bloat...then again I have letro on hand.
 
i cannot wait till you start getting mean and hating everyone.. thats prob. been one of the funnest part of steroids for me..
 
Phaded said:
i cannot wait till you start getting mean and hating everyone.. thats prob. been one of the funnest part of steroids for me..
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lmfao, i'm getting there believe me
 
hi, pumkin.

1. what will you be taking for your liver when you start the Anavar - oxandrolone - ?
2. how many total calories are you eating?
3. are you eating before going to bed?
4. test is painful in the glutes and quads. You might try injecting in the triceps or delts and then do a light arm or shoulder set to work it through the muscle.
 
also:

take your measurements so you have a starting point for growth. I take pictures so that I can see my progress. You get used to seeing yourself in the mirror every day so don't notice changes...until you see a picture of yourself.

oh, and be sure to take naked pictures, and send them to me.

thanks.
 
the-short-one said:
hi, pumkin.

1. what will you be taking for your liver when you start the Anavar - oxandrolone - ?
2. how many total calories are you eating?
3. are you eating before going to bed?
4. test is painful in the glutes and quads. You might try injecting in the triceps or delts and then do a light arm or shoulder set to work it through the muscle.
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sup shawty!!?

1. i have a few liver supps, mostly milk thistle based crap, i read var isn't really that toxic, plus i was never a drinker...either way i have stuff on hand
2. between 3,800 - 4,500 daily
3. yes, casein protein, eggs, or milk...whatever i find that is slow absorbing
4. i injected in my delt the first week and worked them the next morning, they were very sore still...my quads were much easier
 
swole said:
sup shawty!!?

1. i have a few liver supps, mostly milk thistle based crap, i read Anavar - oxandrolone - isn't really that toxic, plus i was never a drinker...either way i have stuff on hand
2. between 3,800 - 4,500 daily
3. yes, casein protein, eggs, or milk...whatever i find that is slow absorbing
4. i injected in my delt the first week and worked them the next morning, they were very sore still...my quads were much easier
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hey give me an example of some of the shit youre eating... we're about the same measurements so it might be good for me to shadow it.

heres a quick 3-4 meals you should try too--
three 1lb containers extra-lean beef, throw in grilling pan, eat :)
no salt, dressing, or bullshit. i take some out and mix w/ potatoes before working out and mix w/ veggies for dinnertime.
 
The Shadow said:
Hope you front loaded the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
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Nope, didn't. Why bother? I'm running them both for 13 weeks, I never once read you should front load EQ. In fact, it would make more sense not to front load it so the test kicks in just before the EQ does.
 
Virtuoso said:
hey give me an example of some of the shit youre eating... we're about the same measurements so it might be good for me to shadow it.

heres a quick 3-4 meals you should try too--
three 1lb containers extra-lean beef, throw in grilling pan, eat :)
no salt, dressing, or bullshit. i take some out and mix w/ potatoes before working out and mix w/ veggies for dinnertime.
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lmfao, i do the same thing and throw some sodium free seasoning on it...no bun, nothing.

I usually eat brown rice or yams with my chicken or beef, whatever I'm in the mood for...my diet isn't all that diverse. In the AM I'll have a mound of pure oatmeal (no sugar), and sprinkle in some raisins, natural peanut butter, cranberries, brown sugar and granola with scrambled eggs on the side. Sometimes I'll eat a whole wheat bagel with peanut butter instead of the oatmeal.
 
swole said:
Nope, didn't. Why bother? I'm running them both for 13 weeks, I never once read you should front load Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - . In fact, it would make more sense not to front load it so the test kicks in just before the EQ does.
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Go find the roid half life calculator and play around with it and see for yourself....there were great discussions about this in the past on the board.


Actually:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...one-undecylenate-do-you-frontload-378232.html

^^^ACTUAL REAL WORLD NUMBERS


You hit MAX blood level concentration in about 8 days.....

The blood thickening *could* be a concern...however - you ARE going to eventually hit the max blood concentration levels at one point or another and you aren't using what I would call a super dosing scheme at any rate.


What would be the reasoning behind not getting an extra 2 weeks at maximum blood levels WITHOUT extending the actual time on??
 
The Shadow said:
Go find the roid half life calculator and play around with it and see for yourself....there were great discussions about this in the past on the board.


Actually:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...one-undecylenate-do-you-frontload-378232.html

^^^ACTUAL REAL WORLD NUMBERS


You hit MAX blood level concentration in about 8 days.....

The blood thickening *could* be a concern...however - you ARE going to eventually hit the max blood concentration levels at one point or another and you aren't using what I would call a super dosing scheme at any rate.


What would be the reasoning behind not getting an extra 2 weeks at maximum blood levels WITHOUT extending the actual time on??
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Shadow, that's great info right there...but it's a little too late for me to front load. lol @ someone saying they got gyno from EQ. Either way I'll keep this in mind for my next cycle since I'm already in week 3.
 
I started my var today. I'm taking 60mg ED split into two dosages.

Chest workout was insane. Pump was insane. Endurance was insane. I didn't want to stop. I got a new personal bench record. I'm leaner around the midsection and larger everywhere else (including my cawk!!!).
 
swole said:
I started my Anavar - oxandrolone - today. I'm taking 60mg ED split into two dosages.

Chest workout was insane. Pump was insane. Endurance was insane. I didn't want to stop. I got a new personal bench record. I'm leaner around the midsection and larger everywhere else (including my cawk!!!).
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F*ck yes what I like to hear... lets keep it up big boii.

btw- took your advice got more Var and started today, gametime.
 
Swole....split the var int0 20 mg 3x per day - tha half life is VERY short and the extra does will help stabilize blood levels
 
The Shadow said:
Swole....split the Anavar - oxandrolone - int0 20 mg 3x per day - tha half life is VERY short and the extra does will help stabilize blood levels
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...and you might consider taking taurine inf you start getting cramps. Calves will cramp up, especially. :) Drinking lots of water will help that, too - but taurine is good for you.
 
good for swole. im glad your 16 week Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - /testosterone cypionate/Anavar - oxandrolone - cycle is going well.
 
the-short-one said:
...and you might consider taking taurine inf you start getting cramps. Calves will cramp up, especially. :) Drinking lots of water will help that, too - but taurine is good for you.
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already got it :)

shadow, sounds good.
 
4th injection went smoothly; hit the quad again. I'm always hungry. Stuffing my face with nothing but the best food. Worst things I had in the last two months were 1 Big Mac and 2 Guinness'. Everything else was right on point. I was trying on clothes today in the mall and noticed some retarded veins coming through in my chest and delts. Unreal. My body is getting noticeably bigger and stronger. Seriously, I was flexing in the mirror and saw that nice muscle ripple through my titties. I liked it. I like the juice. Lifts are going up pretty fast. I might hit that 300lb bench soon enough. Giggidy GOOOOOOOOOoo!!!!!!!
 
swole said:
4th injection went smoothly; hit the quad again. I'm always hungry. Stuffing my face with nothing but the best food. Worst things I had in the last two months were 1 Big Mac and 2 Guinness'. Everything else was right on point. I was trying on clothes today in the mall and noticed some retarded veins coming through in my chest and delts. Unreal. My body is getting noticeably bigger and stronger. Seriously, I was flexing in the mirror and saw that nice muscle ripple through my titties. I liked it. I like the juice. Lifts are going up pretty fast. I might hit that 300lb bench soon enough. Giggidy GOOOOOOOOOoo!!!!!!!
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good shit keep it up homey
 
today was workout #5 for the week - bis and tris

holy shit the Anavar - oxandrolone - is kicking in, my arms were fark huge

i saw striations in my bis :)

right now i'm enjoying the bestest pwo shake evar

and looking forward to another week of raping the iron
 
Tomorrow's injection #5. Not sure when I want to pin it yet. I've been in Michigan for the past 2 days, but happened to meet up with hanselthecaretaker and we mashed up delts Wed at his local gym and I did legs today on my own. I'll be going home early tomorrow. I only have bis and tris to do until Monday...then another solid 5 day workout week has been completed :) My endurance and strength is going up nicely in all areas. My body is becoming incredibly vascular, and it's only the end of week #4. Traveling while on a cycle is easy if you just plan it out ahead of time. I put my var in a small mouthwash bottle, no problems. I didn't bother bringing my injects since I am always home on the weekends, even when traveling.

Everything is going well, I'm horny and need to bang. I feel great. I want to kill things sometimes.
 
your anavar is liquid? who'd you order from again i forgot ga? or swish?
 
Phaded said:
your anavar is liquid? who'd you order from again i forgot ga? or swish?
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black lion

20mg/ml Oxandrolone

it's a very uniform suspension, tastes like shit

i'll post a pic this weekend
 
swole said:
Tomorrow's injection #5. Not sure when I want to pin it yet. I've been in Michigan for the past 2 days, but happened to meet up with hanselthecaretaker and we mashed up delts Wed at his local gym and I did legs today on my own. I'll be going home early tomorrow. I only have bis and tris to do until Monday...then another solid 5 day workout week has been completed :) My endurance and strength is going up nicely in all areas. My body is becoming incredibly vascular, and it's only the end of week #4. Traveling while on a cycle is easy if you just plan it out ahead of time. I put my Anavar - oxandrolone - in a small mouthwash bottle, no problems. I didn't bother bringing my injects since I am always home on the weekends, even when traveling.

Everything is going well, I'm horny and need to bang. I feel great. I want to kill things sometimes.
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haha ive lifted with hansel before my homes in the same city... whered you lift? east hills or mvp?
 
Virtuoso said:
haha ive lifted with hansel before my homes in the same city... whered you lift? east hills or mvp?
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the old powerhouse on plainfield in grand rapids

Phaded said:
wtf is blacklion lol.. :)
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it's a small operation based in canada, bor makes some good shit...needto knows of another source who makes liquid var
 
I put .5cc's into each of my delts and left quad yesterday. Another smooth injection day. Lifts and size are going up each week. I expect a big jump this week.
 
swole said:
I put .5cc's into each of my delts and left quad yesterday. Another smooth injection day. Lifts and size are going up each week. I expect a big jump this week.
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good for you bro, keep it up.
any before/after pics for comparison?
 
william rand said:
good for you bro, keep it up.
any before/after pics for comparison?
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No before pictures aside from the ones I already have. I snap a shot or two every now and then.

Today I upped my dose. This week's workouts were insane, I was really feeling the endurance and strength. I'm at 210. A leaner 210 than I ever was. When I was doing hack squats I saw veins in the bottom front of my quad :evil:

I upped my dose for today's injection. I put 1cc in each delt, putting my supplement diet at:

400mg t.est c.yp / 600mg E.Q EW
Anav.ar stays at 80mg ED
 
Holy fuck fuck fuck for all the bors who question when this stuff really, I mean really kicks in...it's between week 6-7. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

I might start injecting 2x weekly.

I am now doing 400mg c.yp and 600mg E.Q ew with 100mg var ed.

I want to inject 200/300 twice per week, every 3-4 days. Var is still being taken in 3 dosages (thanks to shadow for the suggestion).

I feel phenom bors.
 
swole said:
Holy fuck fuck fuck for all the bors who question when this stuff really, I mean really kicks in...it's between week 6-7. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

I might start injecting 2x weekly.

I am now doing 400mg c.yp and 600mg E.Q ew with 100mg Anavar - oxandrolone - ed.

I want to inject 200/300 twice per week, every 3-4 days. Var is still being taken in 3 dosages (thanks to shadow for the suggestion).

I feel phenom bors.
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i was injecting 3 x weekly just to do it.. i actually enjoy injecting though makes me feel like a beast.. raise your eq to 900 and go ape shit :)
 
Phaded said:
i was injecting 3 x weekly just to do it.. i actually enjoy injecting though makes me feel like a beast.. raise your Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - to 900 and go ape shit :)
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i just got an excited feeling in my stomach like when you're on a roller coaster when u suggested that
 
I worked delts today. Did 3 sets of military press, standing lateral raises, bent over lateral raises, upright rows, reverse pec dec and dips. I tried doing front raises, but my delts hurt so badly I had to stop...the pump was making them uncomfortable...and I wanted more sets. Weight is going up nicely. I'm going to pick up some glucosamine to jube my joints...any other suggestions? I felt as if they were a little "dry" today. Fluid uptake is high as well.

I feel great...what's funny about this cycle is that all my anxiety is all but gone. I really thought E.Q was rumored to add to this, but all the contrary. I sit at my desk at work getting butterflies because I feel like the warrior champion of life. I love all of you.
 
People are starting to comment on my size and vascularity. I like it.

Pics of needles and fake gear which I would only use for research purposes on lab rats if it happened to be real and if I didn't already flush it down the toilet and santize the containers before throwing them out already:

Black Lion's liquid v.ar, 20mg per ml (I take 100mg ED)

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Black Lion's Bulkfuel. 200mg Test C.yp and 300mg E.Q per ml (I inject 2cc's EW)

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Various Needles, when I pretend to inject delts and quads I use the 23g

Stocked up on 25g in case I want to get crazy with bis or other small muscles

Slin pins for my HC.G

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warrior champion of life classic. :)... 25 guage.. i couldn't imagine trying to push test/eq through that.. it takes like 30 secs to push 2 cc of eq/enan through a 23 guage for me..
 
I shot 1cc in each quad yesterday. I took 2 days off from the gym because I got a wisdom tooth removed on wednesday and I was tired from all the pain killers. I went in today to work chest/tris...I was even stronger than last week...but I felt like a zombie. The vikes put me to sleep but I wake up every 2 hours for some reason. Now that the pain is gone I won't be taking anymore and I hope to get back on schedule in terms of sleep and my workouts.

I'm staying leaner than I thought, this stuff is ripping me up and making my midsection tighter...even with 400mg of c.yp weekly. E.Q / v.ar is some serious stuff. I get massive back pumps just holding a weed wacker lol.
 
Good job bro. I only did EQ once. I love it, and the pumps but my blood pressure went really high so you might want to check yours. Lasix is cheap and easy to get to lower your BP. I always have tons on hand for personal use. You're right, the pumps can get very intense and the vascularity is unreal.

I may try EQ again but in smaller doses.
 
tank u gentlemen

sub i'll have pics when i'm all done

mattdan, i have meds on hand which i take as needed (beta blockers)

I just finished my 8th injection. Put 1cc in each delt. I used a 25g 1" needle this time; it definitely took longer but you can't feel the needle at all. When I pulled out of my left delt blood rushed out and I got nervous...but it was just the needle passing through a vein, not injecting into it (I aspirate, obviously). I've read some stories about blood gushing out like a fountain, lol. Other than that both shots went well.
 
Shot(s)/week #9 today. Put 1cc in each of my quads.

This is turning out to be an interesting cycle. I'm slightly larger, but HELLA leaner. There are visible veins throughout my body and everything looks constantly pumped. I put on about 10lbs of solid mass. This is awesome because I didn't want to blow up with water, which is often confused with making false gains. The biggest difference is in my chest and delts, which were my two weak points. They look good :)

I had an extremely shitty day at the gym yesterday. I had to spend nearly 4 hours driving to a meeting in Jersey with coworkers and was only able to eat 30 minutes before heading to the gym. Instead of fueling my workout, the food sat in my stomach and made me lethargic. I tried pulling 405lb deadlifts, which I easily get 8-10 times...and I couldn't even get the damn thing off the ground...I was that shot...so I took the weight down and did high reps for the remainder of back day.

I'm feeling much more energized today, but I'm giong to take it easy until next week (by keeping high reps low weight, high calories and good sleep) since I'll be on the road in Jefferson City and need the rest.
 
patsfan1379 said:
Dude, I'm so fucking jealous. Good for you man.
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no reason to be jealous, aren't or haven't you had cycle experience?
 
swole said:
no reason to be jealous, aren't or haven't you had cycle experience?
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I haven't hit a REAL cycle in like 3-4 years. Now I do a light TBOL only cycle every summer to get 3-4 lbs. Also leans me out really good. I remember the feeling, thats why I'm jealous.

God I used to be the conessieur of juicy juice... Now I'm 185lbs. But stronger than nearly all the 200+ lbers. LOL!! yay me!!!!

I'll do another cycle soon.
 
Update - inject/week #11 yesterday. I also started HC.G on Wednesday; 500iu twice weekly. This stuff makes a difference. I have a.dex on hand for water retention. Anavar gives me anxiety and heartburn after I take it. So I take it with a beta blocker and tums. lol - it works. I'm not sure how long to feel the effects of H.CG but whatever the case I'm already starting to feel "better" (more energy, a general sense of well-being...basically not as shut down).
 
On days where you miss a ton of meals go to the gym and just super set a body part.
You can get a quick pump.
Get in an out of there and then eat.
Its the best thing you can do.
 
swole said:
Update - inject/week #11 yesterday. I also started HC.G on Wednesday; 500iu twice weekly. This stuff makes a difference. I have a.dex on hand for water retention. Anavar gives me anxiety and heartburn after I take it. So I take it with a beta blocker and tums. lol - it works. I'm not sure how long to feel the effects of H.CG but whatever the case I'm already starting to feel "better" (more energy, a general sense of well-being...basically not as shut down).
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The HCG works quickly. Nolvadex will also help quickly.

Your nuts will be big again!!!!
 
oh man you should have seen it! my right delt bled like a champion as i pulled the needle out HAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!! injection/week # 12 today. BTW the H.CG has my balls bigger and fuller again. Not 100%, but almost. I went grocery shopping today and bought a crapload of meat, eggs, chicken whole wheat and nothing but awesomo stuff to clean it up like a champion. I'm going all out from here...
 
swole said:
oh man you should have seen it! my right delt bled like a champion as i pulled the needle out HAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!! injection/week # 12 today. BTW the H.CG has my balls bigger and fuller again. Not 100%, but almost. I went grocery shopping today and bought a crapload of meat, eggs, chicken whole wheat and nothing but awesomo stuff to clean it up like a champion. I'm going all out from here...
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ant it nice to have big balls again...told you on cycle is the best way to use hcg. :)
 
Some quick notes..things are going extremely well. My midsection is getting tighter and I'm the biggest I've ever been in my life. I can do 5 pushups and immediately I swell up like I'm allergic to seafood and just ate 6 pounds of it. H.CG is a MUST for these cycles...without it I just didn't feel right. It's scary how shitty your diet can be and how well you grow despite improper nutrition. What's even more better awesom-oh!! is how digustingly sick you can grow WITH proper nutrition. 200-300 grams of protein per day makes me feel and look more anabolic than a gym full of rabid gorillas. E.Q absolutely LOVES protein. People who don't run E.Q for at least 16 weeks are losing out. There is NO WAY you're going to unleash its power with a shorter cycle. I have a few weeks left.
 
Bro you got to make with the real world measurements to see how much you've grown . great thread hope when I post my cycle it will have as much bite as yours.
 
Let's see....injection #16 today. You bet your ass I'm extending my cycle to 20 weeks :evil:

I still haven't decided if anav.ar is drying up my joints or my arm hurts from throwing the pigskin around. Either way I added more fatty oils to my diet and it feels a lot better. My delts poke out nicely. I really need to pick another spot besides delts and quads to inject...I am building up some scar tissue and it's making it painful/impossible to stab with a needle. E.Q absolutely loves protein, but I said that already. I don't think people understand how potent this substance is in body recomp over long cycles. But I said that already.
 
swole said:
Let's see....injection #16 today. You bet your ass I'm extending my cycle to 20 weeks :evil:

I still haven't decided if anav.ar is drying up my joints or my arm hurts from throwing the pigskin around. Either way I added more fatty oils to my diet and it feels a lot better. My delts poke out nicely. I really need to pick another spot besides delts and quads to inject...I am building up some scar tissue and it's making it painful/impossible to stab with a needle. E.Q absolutely loves protein, but I said that already. I don't think people understand how potent this substance is in body recomp over long cycles. But I said that already.
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good shit bro people are getting a lot out of this thread...
save some for the comp
 
haha needto i will, can't fuggin wait...i'm going all out for that one...there's so much more i expect of myself

anav.ar had nothing to do with my temporary joint pain

but something in my cycle is hindering my appetite, and i think it's the v.ar...because when i was doing just the test and e.q i was eating everything under the sun

just something to keep in mind, maybe i'll add some vit b to my diet
 
it's official. all day, everyday, my sawseege is never completely flacid. it's that tingling sensation where you want to fuck anything in sight. i saw a semi-fatty running on the sidewalk and i swear to god i almost pulled over and flat out asked her to fuck.

i'm getting hard as i'm typing this. i don't know how much longer i can contain my self-respect and not fuck every hole in sight. between the cy.p, hc.g and 8 grams of arginine daily...i'm surprised i don't have the hiv by now.

well, i've been bashing my abs into the ground lately. i worked them so hard today i couldn't do a regular sit-up because they were pumped.

btw, i've added 8 grams of arginine to my daily supplement intake...between that and the v.ar i swear my skin feels like it's going to tear during every workout
 
i like how you hide your juice names.. i think ill start doing the same.
 
Inject # 17 yesterday. Going for 20 weeks. I am eating like an absolute champion...the gains are disgusting when diet is on point. I recently switched my source to G.A Labs...good stuff too. Va.r is off the hook. I will be using it again, without question. My abs are starting to come through!!

I'm thinking of a 12 week prim.o, v.ar, test cy.p run.
 
Inject #18 a few days ago. Here's the deal. I dropped the E.Q 2 weeks ago...which means it's out of my system...so right now I'm finishing my cycle on 400mg of c.yp. My anxiety is gone which leads me to believe E.Q was the culprit. I am also using G.A labs c.yp instead of Black Lion, and it seems to be of extremely higher quality. I'm feeling unbelievably good on it...hunger, libido, and my general sense of well-being is up.

Since I have an unused 20ml of E.Q laying around, I might turn it down to 400mg (instead of 600) EW next time around. I figure over another 20 weeker it will be just as beneficial as 600mg...and hopefully the anxiety won't be as bad. I plan to stack that with cy.p (again) and primo instead of v.ar.
 
swole said:
Inject #18 a few days ago. Here's the deal. I dropped the E.Q 2 weeks ago...which means it's out of my system...so right now I'm finishing my cycle on 400mg of c.yp. My anxiety is gone which leads me to believe E.Q was the culprit. I am also using G.A labs c.yp instead of Black Lion, and it seems to be of extremely higher quality. I'm feeling unbelievably good on it...hunger, libido, and my general sense of well-being is up.

Since I have an unused 20ml of E.Q laying around, I might turn it down to 400mg (instead of 600) EW next time around. I figure over another 20 weeker it will be just as beneficial as 600mg...and hopefully the anxiety won't be as bad. I plan to stack that with cy.p (again) and Primobolan - methenolone - instead of v.ar.
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So when is the final cutoff date? Are you going to post results after last t.est shot, and then after P.CT is complete?
 
patsfan1379 said:
So when is the final cutoff date? Are you going to post results after last t.est shot, and then after P.CT is complete?
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i'm officially done with the e.q and var as of 2 weeks ago

i'm maintaining with 400mg c.yp weekly (ga labs - much better quality than black lion - who is no longer in business)

in about 1 month i'll be on 600-800mg prim.o (looking for human grade), 400mg E.Q (midwest monsterz) along with the 400mg of c.yp (ga labs)

so no cutoff, i'm on a permanent bulk lol

i'll throw in some pics after i get some fuggin tan on me (haterz!!)
 
swole said:
i'm officially done with the e.q and Anavar - oxandrolone - as of 2 weeks ago

i'm maintaining with 400mg c.yp weekly (ga labs - much better quality than black lion - who is no longer in business)

in about 1 month i'll be on 600-800mg prim.o (looking for human grade), 400mg E.Q (midwest monsterz) along with the 400mg of c.yp (ga labs)

so no cutoff, i'm on a permanent bulk lol

i'll throw in some pics after i get some fuggin tan on me (haterz!!)
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you may want to change the name of your thread title if that is the case LOL

log looks great, i'm happy for you

best of luck w/ that primmo/e/q & c.yp stack. and yeah, GA is the shit!
 
Awesome thread Swole! I'm on a 20 weeker test E @ 400 EQ @ 600. After reading this thread.........'m going to the gym! Post some pics!
 
Great, now I REALLY can't wait until my 16 week test/eq cycle coming up lol
 
Swole the pic in your avatar looks great. What is your weight gain on this cycle? I seen you started at 205lbs and that is all you ever mentioned, lets talk weight bro!!!​
 
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