Dosage of GHB to release gh?

[NarcisticBastad]

I have access to phamacuetical grade GBL(precusor to ghb). I know it taken properly "g" is great for sleep, and is also supposed to release growth hormone. I also know there is a fine line between taking too little and too much. I was wondering what dosage was optimum to acheive best results(and also when and how often) as far as release of gh within the body and . Im assuming that it is best to take at night right before sleep, esp a night after a workout. Just wanted to see if anyone else has had any results with this--im quite sure there is someone that knows more about this than me.

 

[nymattyk]

you say you have the GBL, is it yellow? GBL is weaker than actual GHB (which is clear) theres a fine line between the right amount and too much of that stuff so you should drink it in moderation until you find the right amount. i usually drink about 3 capfuls, sometimes more (but i am known to overdo it a little). take 2 caps and chill for like 20 min and if you feel you need more take another, but make sure you measure it dont just pour. G is a good sleep aid but when you drink too much its common to wake up after a few hours and not be tired at all which makes it impossible to fall back asleep

 

[amenselah]

gbl is actually stronger than GHB.

1 ml of gbl = 1.6 grams of GHB....

 

[PBR]

GHB 4 gh release

there are better ways to release gh. this does work. can be addictive though- must be very disiplined w/ghb. a benzodiazapene is the ultimate gh releaser, next will be diazepam
aka valium. 2 to 3 times wk. only. be careful.

 

[fatcrackhoe]

as far as i know ghb release gh...
it also releases prolactine which makes the gh useless..

i have read that something thats called vitex is supposed to surpress prolactine.. i'm not sure though... someone else has to fill in for this one...

maybee...

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Doses should not be expressed in 'capfulls'. That is ridiculous. Firstly...GHB doses need to be very accurately measured, usually in grams. Understand the concentration that you have before taking any of it. In the average sized adult male, a dose of .75-1.5 grams is enough to exert an effect of mild relaxation. A dose of 1.5-2 grams can result in euphoria and a deep sleep. Doses over 2 grams are generally considered to be excessive, although the dose response is a very individual thing. Now then. You are talking about GBL, which is NOT GHB, period. I know, you have heard all the hype about the equivalency and so forth, and I myself have taken plenty of GBL. Your best bet is to convert it into GHB. This is easy, and not only will it teach you about dosing, it will also ensure that you research the subject thoroughly and in the process become educated, which you NEED TO BE BEFORE TRYING THIS STUFF OUT. So here's the basics: DO NOT MIX WITH ALCOHOL OR ANY OTHER DEPRESSANT. You could die if you do. DO NOT ASSUME THAT MORE IS BETTER. It isn't. Take it easy with this drug--it has a NASTY bite. Gradually adjust the dose upwards. You wanna start with straight GBL? Okay. If you weigh between 165-200lbs, start with 3ml. measured in a syringe. Even at the most concentrated solution available, this dose will not be lethal or even problematic. About the release of GH...yes, it does cause this. It creates a sixteen fold increase in GH release within the first four hours of ingestion, peaking at around, I think, 90 minutes. The prolactin increase is only five fold, so I cannot see how it would negate the benefits of the GH release. For me, the BEST effect of GHB is the quality sleep it promotes at reasonable doses. I use GHB, I have used it for years, I have overdosed on it twice, and I am here to tell you that SO WILL YOU if you fuck around with it in a casual way. Respect this drug and it will respect you. Disrespect it and you will wish you never saw it, I guarantee it.

 

[fatcrackhoe]

why would the prolactine release have to be the same as the gh release to stop the body from using the gh?
how did you came up with that conclusion?

 

[juggernaut7]

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PBR...where did u come up with that statement bro?>on the vals and gh release...

 

[SirWanksalot]

why would the prolactine release have to be the same as the gh release to stop the body from using the gh? how did you came up with that conclusion?

I think both gh and prolactine are made in the pancreas thus helping to achieve a happy system balance, think of it like yin and yang. Icrease gh with ghb and body compensates by making prolactine to counter gh's effects.


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http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=140984&highlight=lglutamine+and+bromo

Heres my post concerning

L-Glutamine and Bromocriptine for sustained Growth Hormone release

It seems that if GHB and Bromocriptine can make sustained growth hormone in the body and do away with the resulting prolactin increase problem thereby allowing for benefits that HGH offers.

Then L-Glutamine and Bromocriptine may accomplish the same thing because oral glutamine (2 grams) raises growth hormone over 400% above baseline and sustain elevated amounts up to 90 minutes after ingestion.

For this to work, prolonged sustained growth releases would be required. that would necessitate multiple 2 gram glutamine dosing throughout day.

If you are currently taking bromo for gyno or weight loss or post cycle gainskeeper formula, then including a teaspoon of L-glutamine 4 to 6 times a day couldn't hurt, and it may just help.

Sirwanksalot


Heres a few clips found about the L-glutamine study

There has been some discussion regarding glutamine's absorption and stability. One of the most quoted studies regarding the effects of oral glutamine had the subjects consume glutamine combined with soda pop, which acted as its vehicle of transport. In this study the average increase in growth hormone was 400% for a glutamine dosage of 2g dissolved in about 10 oz of a carbonated soft drink. Plasma glutamine and growth hormone both increased and there was an increase in the use of fat as an energy source. Glutamine + Club Soda for muscle preservation and growth hormone anyone?

Am J Clin Nutr 1995 May;61(5):1058-61

Increased plasma bicarbonate and growth hormone after an oral glutamine load.

An oral glutamine load was administered to nine healthy subjects to determine the effect on plasma glutamine, bicarbonate, and circulating growth hormone concentrations. Two grams glutamine were dissolved in a cola drink and ingested over a 20-min period 45 min after a light breakfast. Forearm venous blood samples were obtained at zero time and at 30-min intervals for 90 min and compared with time controls obtained 1 wk earlier. Eight of nine subjects responded to the oral glutamine load with an increase in plasma glutamine at 30 and 60 min before returning to the control value at 90 min. Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated. These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone.

http://www.lifeandsport.com/research/glutsoda.htm

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abs...ournalcode=ajcn
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[fiz]

a bunch of kids take GHB cause it makes you feel sort of drunk.. is this the same type of GHB you're taking? sounds a little dangerous to be using as a daily supplement