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What ruins more human lives, illegal drug market, or illegal dog fighting market?

SublimeZM said:
this is the most honest and respectable post on the entire issue. and its fair enough. but you realize EVERYONE else, thinks he should be locked away because hes a cold hearted animal torturer who will go on killing sprees and ruin society...all while they do drugs that promote gang violence and fuck up families and lives?

they are basically acting like overemotional illogical women.

I won't bomb you b/c I'm not an 8th grade girl and you are entitled to your opinion and I see where you are coming from but you have to realize gang bangers that are pushing drugs are being arrested, why don't you hear about them? Because they don't have 130 million dollar contracts with a professional football team. Paris Hilton was put in prison for driving on a suspended license, why? Because of her social status. You look at people that are plastered on the news and of course they get more serious punishments. Vick did the crime and lied about it, thus destroying what little credibility he had left. Research shows serial killers start by torturing animals first. Should we slap him on the wrist with a fine, like money means shit to him?
 
calveless wonder said:
dumbest thread ever, i love subz most of the time but he deserves a bomb for this
elaborate?

your the idiot for not even explaining your reason.

why does he need to be in jail for it? im not saying he shouldnt be punished as iv said a million fucking times if youd actually read the post, but why specifically JAIL TIME (which is me and lestat's arguement)?

so we can spend tax money to house someone who doesnt pose a threat to human beings?
 
layinback said:
bisexual, Haitian male prostitutes pose a greater threat than these combined.

i am emotional about the vick case and can not be objective but as far as the "illegal drug trade", well thats a different story. we do not have a drug problem. we have a drug PROHIBITION problem. legalize drugs and most of the crime goes away.....no black market.
then as for the emotional side of things:

what about the poor cows who are hooked up to machines for years unable to move so we can have some yummy milk?

what about boxers, or UFC fighters?

what about animals that fight in nature?

its definately fucked up to torture animals, and makes him a scumbag, and a criminal, but not one that deserves jail time.
 
SublimeZM said:
iv never heard of people overdosing on dog fights.

iv never heard of gangsters killing eachother and robbing eachother over dog fights.

iv never heard of people being taken advantage of, countless times, because of the mind altering effects of dog fighting.

iv never heard of familys being torn apart, and new mothers abandoning those they love over an illegal dog fight.

so why the hell are all you fuckin coke head juicer illegal drug users think your above the law, but this dog killer isnt?

anyone who thinks vic should be in jail, but still uses illegal substances of any sort, go turn your self in right now, or forever hold your hypocritcal illogical tongue.

seriously. shut the fuck up. or become the perfect model citizen right now.

the only person whose opinion i will listen to about vic and dog fighting is bluetas. at least she practices what she preaches with ALL animals and crimes, instead of just becoming overly emotional and illogical over ONE type of animal (which is eaten regularly in korea, by the way, you idiots), but not the rest that are tortured and eaten, like all the livestock and poultry we consume.
As my high school math teacher once said: NO!...Ya can't compare horses to cows!! :)
 
SublimeZM said:
then as for the emotional side of things:

what about the poor cows who are hooked up to machines for years unable to move so we can have some yummy milk?

what about boxers, or UFC fighters?

what about animals that fight in nature?

its definately fucked up to torture animals, and makes him a scumbag, and a criminal, but not one that deserves jail time.

hes getting jail time for the interstate money laudering and illegal gambling.
 
SublimeZM said:
then as for the emotional side of things:

what about the poor cows who are hooked up to machines for years unable to move so we can have some yummy milk?

what about boxers, or UFC fighters?

what about animals that fight in nature?

its definately fucked up to torture animals, and makes him a scumbag, and a criminal, but not one that deserves jail time.

if dairy cows are not milked they die.. which is more cruel, supplying life or forcing death?

boxers and UFC fighters do not fight to the death and it's not unvoluntary actions, both are consenting, trained adults.

Animals that fight in nature is exactly that, nature.. They do it to survive.. These dogs on Vick's "farm" were not given a choice, they were killed if they did not chase, domesticated dogs have been domesticated for humans to adhere to their needs, hence the laws that protect domesticated animals.
 
crazyjoe said:
As my high school math teacher once said: NO!...Ya can't compare horses to cows!! :)
i care more about cows than dogs. i couldnt give a fuck about dogs. if this was about cat fighting or donkey fighting i wonder how many emotional irrational puppy lovers would be crying their eyes out
 
timtim said:
hes getting jail time for the interstate money laudering and illegal gambling.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. okay i lose then. jail time.

im still going on a dog killing spree this afternoon just to make sure i piss off all the people who were making the arguement that he deserved the time beacuse of the poor animals and it leading to him possibly killing humans.
 
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