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Hiatussin

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Heres my stance on women. It´s not carved in stone. In it, I include the women that I love, my mother, my sister and my girlfriend of 2 years whom I love and may spend the rest of my life with. This is off the top of my head I may have spent 10 minutes writing this. It may have flaws and incompletions.
I recommend you read it entirely, I know it is long, but I think few will not find it thought-provoking.



Man is ugly and uninspiring compared to woman, but he has a purpose higher than of matter (which is for people to be found) The purpose of man being higher than man itself, rather an idea, an honour, a principle, is the great point that all leftist ideology misses bluntly. Woman is more beautiful and charming than man, but exists only to please and serve a man and allow him piece of mind in his struggles, which she can´t truely grasp, and will simply accept as his life.

Women can´t see the big picture. The only philosophy they have written straightly states this very point, rejecting all purpose higher than man itself and hugs and kisses, as hallucinative self-flattery. No woman could ever really grasp the feelings and ideas of Kant, Ibsen, Weininger or even Jung. All feminist and even female philosophy that gets written, is actually anti-philosophy, simply the denial of the existance of things more below the surface. Anscombes statement that Kantianism is "unfounded" is simply laughable in the light of her writings, which don´t surpass the tendencies of a purring kitten. The female takeover in the 20th century of philosophy and especially psychology has been an absurd revolution, whose teachings end their real sciences and inspiration. This is because women have no philosophical dimension. They are only to aid. They are like an immensely beautiful and precious box, whose only purpose is to store an in itself unattractive ring.

The philosophy of women, that basically preaches love and affection as the virtues and purposes in life, would if true, appoint moral and purpose superiority to women. The fact is however that it is false. Womens tendency to affection reflects not an ability to empathy they have, but rather a lack of it. Women are not so suitable for for instance nursing, since they are so loving and understanding, but rather since they are not. A man, when appointed to task of caring for dying terminal patients, would soon become frustrated by his inability to really cure them and solve the problem.
Since the man can envision himself in others´ positions, the task would wear on him too much. Women flatly give care and affection because it´s natural to them and makes them feel good, without further notion of what is to happen with who they give it to.

Regarding all this, it should be noted, (Like Weininger first postulated in 1903 and was later "discovered" by other scientists who haven´t been lynched by the PC mob) that sexuality is more of a spectrum than a black and white thing. Somebody can be for instance 79% male and 21% female or vice versa. This is of course completely supported by visible anatomy.

The natural dominance of the male is also why you will see every single time, that when a man and woman get together, it is the woman that gets taken up in HIS social circle, not the other way around. He is the dominant force that (beit without force, since most women unconsciously know their place) determines the nature of their joined life. This is why relationships are more important to women than to men. Men change women, Women change lives. It´s "Cowboy/Knight/Prince/Tarzan "Take me away"", not the other way around.

Women do not know friendship like men do. No union of women ever holds out. A good small scale example of this is student fraternities. the oldest living ones for men are about 250 years old, whereas female and mixed ones come and go and don´t usually reach 10 years of age. All succesful unions that surpass the generations and by doing this confirm their sense of transcending purpose, Freemasonry, Illuminati, The Catholic Church, Burschenschaften, Corps, Landsmanschaften, Rotary, Robber Barons, all of them are male-only. Of the mixed organisations the ones that last longest (although they are all one day flies compared to male organisations) are the ones that are lead by the males in their ranks.

This is because females don´t understand friendship and networking. Women like to get ahead in society, but they try to do it by hooking onto a succesful man, not by getting into the network, their network IS their mans. You can take 2 feminine women who have known each other all their life and wrench them right apart with one charming, hot, promising man who shows some interest in them both. Two male life-long friends in the same situation will consult one another, simply wait till she chooses like a good sport, or even the lesser sexually succesful of the two will give her up.

The fact that women do not really understand friendship also explains their great naivity in dealing with male attention. Most males understand very well that they have no female "friends". Yet females will often genuinely believe the kind man trying to get in her pants gives a damn what she has to say for any other reason than pursuit-strategy.

Since women can´t see the big picture and don´t have a purpose in themselves, they also can´t remember their lives in a continuous stream of events. Such a recollection confirms/helps point out direction, and man is far more capable of constructing it, even moreso as we move to the more intelligent men amongst them, the true genius even seeming to recollect his life in its entirety.

Women are almost like input/output boxes. They have an infallible memory for those limited things that they react to- Insults, compliments and affection.
A woman, when asked the story of her life, will soon presume to tell a chronology of her affections. Upon inspection, she will recall with eery precision every bit of flattery and insult that she endured. Much unlike man, who typically describes a quest for purpose (at whatever level of intellect) or experience.

This is also clearly demonstrated, by the example of the all-hated woman and the all-hated man. It is possible for a man, being sufficiently manly in nature and well developed, to have pride and happiness although noone in the world thinks him worthy. Women have no philosophical dimension and so have no self image that transcends other peoples reactions to her, what she thinks of herself is simply the balanced out, cumulated effect of all response she has had to her person in her life.

When a man reaches puberty, sexuality and infatuation, attraction and attractiveness, become an addition to his life. The person he was before it is still there but it has grown some bigger with this addition. Women are reborn. Nothing they cared about before or did really matters anymore and they clearly demonstrate how much "man" is their very purpose.

Feminism has been a confusing force that attacked the carefully balanced nature of things. It first concerned itself with juridical equality, which is no problem really, since nature takes care of the balance without laws just fine, but some have adopted such a strong mentality to this, that after attacking sexist laws they have presumed to attack sexist nature (and with it, themselves, leading to the wave of depression we have seen).

No woman is as happy, as a woman who is with a man who has set himself a lifes mission that he believes in, and needs her to fall back on and appreciates her for this.
 
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Taken from a link Razorguns posted a while back:

"So, if you are between the ages of 15 and 25, or mentally so, pay attention and tattoo these pearls on the inside of your thigh. When you have lived a long and failed life of disasterous encounters with the fairer sex, you will want to read back my little laundry list and slap yourself for not taking it to heart.

Item 1: Do not listen to what women have to say about women. They are not privy to the keen powers of self-instropection, nor are they honest when the mirror paints the picture of womanhood in a less-than-flattering light. If women were to be trusted about how they tick, we'd all have it figured out, and women would be happy. Society is afraid of saying what I am, that women have been led to believe they are a noble half of the human race, and more suited to matters of the heart. Fact is, they're just as clueless as you. Next.

Item 2: Women are 95% a product of the relationship (or lack thereof) between they and their fathers. Men are made by their mothers, women by their dads. If daddy beat them, left them, or otherwise was a shitbag, you had better believe they will not have healthy impulses and chaos will follow them throughout their days. This is an absolute, so trust me when I say, if they don't have a healthy relationship with pops, they're not having one with you either, so fucking run. Yes, they're going to be fun in the sackeroo, but trust me....run. That other 5% of their nature comes from lucky genetics, but you're not turning that into anything by yourself. You ain't fixing a broken girl, so just run.

Item 3: To attract women, you need but one thing....to be in charge. Not necessarily of the world or the building you work in, but in charge of your surroundings. You need to be in charge of whatever setting you and the womenz will be in. In any herd of animals, the females obey the alpha. You must be, no matter what the situation, the "guy". You might need to be the funny guy, or the cool guy, or the host, or the entertainer, or even the "taken" one, but you had better be the center of attention that day. To be this thing, you need some confidence, you need your shit in order, and you need some sort of talent that will put you in the alpha spot - no matter if that's at the library or at the night club. Women do not fawn at the slowest, weakest gazelle. They look at what's running out front, and follow. Get your life in order. Women are not laying in the tub right now letting the water hit the pink parts dreaming about a gun nut who's playing Rainbow Six in his mom's basement. You follow? This leads me to item 4.

Item 4: Women, real women, do not want a boy. They want a man, so be one. Don't get dickhead haircuts, tribal tats, spinners for your ghey car, the latest trendy clothes or skin care products. These are the tools of vain boys, and a woman does not want these things from you even if she acts like she does. You may get some dates, you may get laid, you may even get married by being a boy.....but bet your ass that your woman will dream of a man (which is not you).

Item 5: Women, contrary to ARFcom legend, do not want sex that often...especially once the relationship cools off (normalizes). If they do crave the weenie all the time, they are messed up (see item #1). Women do not have testesterone pumping through their organs, and will not crave sex, at least not like you think they do. Get used to it, deal with it, and make your peace with the fact that a normal woman wants sex about 1/10th as much as you. Sadly, the sexaholic women are usually reliving some sort of childhood trauma, and sex gives them control over their neuroses about that past. See, women have sex for very different reasons than we do. They have it to feel sexy, to feel loved, to feel wanted, even to feel in charge....but they don't have that physical drive like us. We, by contrast, have sex to purge the evil venom from our balls, and that's about the extent of it.

Item 6: There is nothing a woman can sniff out like desperation. If you have even one tiny cell of creepy in you, she'll smell it all over you like a possum carcus in the sun. One of the lessons of adulthood is FUCKING RELAX. Do it, for all our sakes. Don't chase women, for there is no need. Be a man, be yourself, have a good time and get your life in order, and the women will forever come to you. Believe this fellas.....nothing could be truer. If young swingset would have only known this.... but that's another story and it involves copious masturbation and alot of Boone's Farm.

Item 7: Women, contrary to another urban legend, are shitbags too. They will have you convinced, if you talk to them enough, that they are the masters of reason and emotion. Bullshit, fellas. They are contriving, maniacal masters of chaos and work feverishly against their own happiness sometimes. Nothing will disturb a woman so deeply to her core as true contentment. Some women shudder at the thought of a placid, pleasing life. It's a very rare thing, a woman at peace and comfortable with herself....so when you find one, say "I do" and keep her away from other women. Wanna see proof of this? Work along side alot of women. When one finds happiness, the others go about dismantling hers with ant-like industry. Nothing on earth is quite so destructive as women screwing with a happy one. It's a pretty safe bet that if your lady friends hang out with other girls, they will try (even unwittingly), to fuck you up. Sorry girls, you know this one is true.

Item 8: Get to know your prospective inlaws....even if you have no idea you're going to marry the girl you're banging. If you don't love them like they're your own parents, RUN. Seriously, it's that simple. Run. Look at their relationship - her mother and father's. Look at it hard, because that's you in 25 years....or some variation of it. Your woman will make sure of it, because she's hard wired to.

Item 9: A woman's beauty is her worst enemy, and her only true servant. Be very afraid of a woman who has relied, or counted on her looks to survive or succeed - for when those looks or your attention to them wanes, she will self-destruct before your eyes. You will come home to find her gone, or on top of your best friend. Again, not to drive a point too fine, but stay away from the 10's. A stripper model does not live to enjoy a 50 year wedding anniversary, and she will not change your diapers when you're old. Believe it or not, that stuff really matters. You, like women, are driven by your nature. If you're always attracted to the worst kind of women, it's not their fault bucko. It's yours....so fight your impulses and go with what's smart not what "feels good".

Item 10: Lastly, I leave you with this. It's a difficult lesson to be a man. It's a painful, self-sacrificing labor and part of the human condition to be a man. You must accept that much of your life and your ties to women rely on your honor and your good nature. Sadly, most of us choose our mates based on nothing more than a tiny dab of sexual experience and a lot of ignorance about human nature. The women you meet, fall in love with, screw, and hurt, are all human beings with complex pasts, desires and dreams. Treat each woman, no matter who she is, as if she is your best friend's girl. Give her respect, even if you don't choose to engage her in a meaningful way. Understand that she is a daughter, a sister and someone's baby and if she's not good enough to be kind to, then leave her alone. Your dealings with the chicks will come back to haunt you, and each shitty act will be revisited on you, or your children, or your future women. Trust me here...it really happens. Be a good man, a smart man and an observant man, and women will not be a source of pain in your life. Take my word on it."

most of the woman answers there
 
JayC9 said:
Taken from a link Razorguns posted a while back:
most of the woman answers there

That´s more practical I was going more theoretical. The conclusions are similar

I added some paragraphs by the way.
 
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Hiatussin said:
Man is ugly and uninspiring compared to woman, but he has a purpose higher than of matter (which is for people to be found) The purpose of man being higher than man itself, rather an idea, an honour, a principle, is the great point that all leftist ideology misses bluntly. Woman is more beautiful and charming than man, but exists only to please and serve a man and allow him piece of mind in his struggles, which she can´t truely grasp, and will simply accept as his life..


that shit is great. way to stick it to the ... woman
 
I'll read this later.

TWO fucking long posts in one thread? omg! lol
 
cardiomann said:
Wow! This is a perfect insight into the true nature of women. Thanks for the post!
It´s not perfect, it´s more like a touch of truth that the whole intellectual community has been toe-stepping around in a big arch for 100 years now.

Most of this post is based on the ideas of Prof Dr Otto Weininger from Vienna, Austria. I read him and it was so recognisable and explanatory that it really stuck with me. The problem is he´s a tough author, and translating german to english makes for painful reading anyway.
 
That's cool, both posts... Very well written, but is it something we did'nt already know?



Also, we can discuss theories all day and you guys seem a lot smarter than I am, but in the end we all end up being here a very short time and then we die. LIVE before you die.

The days/years go by way too fast to think and rethink relationships to see which woman is right for you. If you had a hundred lifetimes, then maybe you can dump an otherwise "perfect" girl if she had a bad relationship with her father. We don't have a hundred lifetimes. do it.
 
I don't subscribe to your theory that men are inspired to a higher calling & women are here to support us.
I only agree about 60% with rest of your statements.
I've found that there are men & women that are to varying degrees opposite to what you say, although you did say this would be so.
To make such blanket statements, to me, seems a little simplistic & narrow minded.
Good read though. Made me think, which I really hate to do on a Sunday morning.
JayC9's Razorguns quote was almost right on.
 
whoever keeps on analizing why women are like this or that; men are this way or that way; placing stereotypes on both sexes is so immature. Every person is different is has to be accepted for who they are. There is a reason why women and men are so opposite - so we can complete each other
 
Hiatussin said:
That´s pretty much my point
That's what make my wife & I so good together. WE complete each other, as people.
However, this symbiotic relationship isn't gender specific.
 
That post by Razorguns is probably one of the best and most accurate things ever written by any human being in recorded history.

I paid a lot more attention to his posts after I read that.

As far as the first post goes... the philisophical thing.. I dont completely agree..
 
I skimmed thru this and had enough. Your view of women, including your mother and girlfriend are disgusting. Maybe its the way you are raised, hell I don't know. But pull that shit with a strong independant woman and see how far you get.

Men like you want women to feel inferior so that you can feel superior. That my dear is what I call weak. Stomp them down so that you feel atop the world.

You know i like you but I don't agree with your view of women at all. Its very piggish imo. Sure you will find a woman that will let you treat her like shes below you if you look hard enough... good luck in that.


you may be a bright boy but you have ALOT to learn about women.
 
milo hobgoblin said:
evil frisky.. I dont think Hiatussin actually wrote that. I think he just beleives in some of it.


he and I have had discussions on his view of women. We don't agree on alot of it. His up brining culture etc I guess.
 
Evil_Frisky said:
I skimmed thru this and had enough. Your view of women, including your mother and girlfriend are disgusting. Maybe its the way you are raised, hell I don't know. But pull that shit with a strong independant woman and see how far you get.

Men like you want women to feel inferior so that you can feel superior. That my dear is what I call weak. Stomp them down so that you feel atop the world.

You know i like you but I don't agree with your view of women at all. Its very piggish imo. Sure you will find a woman that will let you treat her like shes below you if you look hard enough... good luck in that.


you may be a bright boy but you have ALOT to learn about women.



Even a "strong independant woman" can agree with the first post without being one of "those" women. To agree with a theory does'nt mean you ARE what you're agreeing with. They are just theories and conclusions that can be debated. That does'nt mean they are dividers of people, sexes, etc...
 
gonelifting said:
Even a "strong independant woman" can agree with the first post without being one of "those" women. To agree with a theory does'nt mean you ARE what you're agreeing with. They are just theories and conclusions that can be debated. That does'nt mean they are dividers of people, sexes, etc...

some parts are dead on, but most are just a very male ego way making yourself feel almighty.

I am single, mom of two, very sucessful, and wouldn't take a man treating me the way some men feel women SHOULD be treated.

Maybe im just a bitch like that
 
milo hobgoblin said:
evil frisky.. I dont think Hiatussin actually wrote that. I think he just beleives in some of it.
He's a purty smart fecker. he wrote the first post. Don't know how much of that he actually believes, but if he subscribes to it, I hope his g.f. is the one, 'cause he ain't gonna find another one. Unless he goes into the mountains of Bulgaria, Latvia, Afghanistan, or any other 2nd or 3rd world country.
IMO, many women are my equal, some are superior. It's not their gender, it's their brains, work ethic, or moral compass that makes them so.
 
Evil_Frisky said:
I skimmed thru this and had enough. Your view of women, including your mother and girlfriend are disgusting. Maybe its the way you are raised, hell I don't know. But pull that shit with a strong independant woman and see how far you get.

Men like you want women to feel inferior so that you can feel superior. That my dear is what I call weak. Stomp them down so that you feel atop the world.

You know i like you but I don't agree with your view of women at all. Its very piggish imo. Sure you will find a woman that will let you treat her like shes below you if you look hard enough... good luck in that.


you may be a bright boy but you have ALOT to learn about women.

I was raised in a family where definately mom defined the emotions and dad the thoughts.

My father is pretty sexist in daily life, complaining about womens lack of scientific insight, driving skills and their irrational nature dealing with a specific woman at the time. My mom would respond by attacking his lack of decorum, tact and social qualities and saying he´s just finding an excuse for the fact that he can´t live with someone without having small conflicts.
That sounds like I´m from a broken home. None of this would be accompanied by anger or shouting though. More like fought-out-long-ago sarcasm.

He´s never generalised and said things about "women in general" like my first post did. When I do, in front of him, he rejects it immediately and argues against it.

You seem to conclude I treat girls as though they are "below" me. I am in fact very chivalrous, polite and kind to them and even sexually I´m at least as focussed on her enjoyment as my own. I am dating a girl who can´t handle me in debates though and she does usually end up giving in when we have a difference of opinion.
 
milo hobgoblin said:
evil frisky.. I dont think Hiatussin actually wrote that. I think he just beleives in some of it.
I did write it, but the general idea of it comes from a book I read last year.
 
Hiatussin said:
I was raised in a family where definately mom defined the emotions and dad the thoughts.

My father is pretty sexist in daily life, complaining about womens lack of scientific insight, driving skills and their irrational nature dealing with a specific woman at the time. My mom would respond by attacking his lack of decorum, tact and social qualities and saying he´s just finding an excuse for the fact that he can´t live with someone without having small conflicts.
That sounds like I´m from a broken home. None of this would be accompanied by anger or shouting though. More like fought-out-long-ago sarcasm.

He´s never generalised and said things about "women in general" like my first post did. When I do, in front of him, he rejects it immediately and argues against it.

You seem to conclude I treat girls as though they are "below" me. I am in fact very chivalrous, polite and kind to them and even sexually I´m at least as focussed on her enjoyment as my own. I am dating a girl who can´t handle me in debates though and she does usually end up giving in when we have a difference of opinion.


Debates about what?

Really? You define a relationship on debates about history, philosophy? So maybe she's not as brillant as you but why belittle her by trying to debate these things? Why not TEACH her? Take what you learn and build something together instead of puffing out your chest because she can't handle a debate with you.

I'm not trying to slam you i just think you need to open up a bit
 
Evil_Frisky said:
Debates about what?

Really? You define a relationship on debates about history, philosophy? So maybe she's not as brillant as you but why belittle her by trying to debate these things? Why not TEACH her? Take what you learn and build something together instead of puffing out your chest because she can't handle a debate with you.

I'm not trying to sloa m
I don´t feel I´m trying to belittle her. I don´t "pick" debates with her your post just made me think about the times that they did happen and yes usually she ended up subscribing to my opinion. She´s really very infatuated with me and I do wonder sometimes if she´d thinking for herself and standing up for her opinions enough.

She has hobbies and friends I dislike that she still enjoys and continues though. I don´t think I rule her life. We usually meet because she has time at that moment, not me. I tried to convince to choose another major in university but she perseveres.

In her family mom is the smartest, the most motivated and organised and definately the most assertive, leading person. Her father is a bit of a drag-along and I never really respected him (I stay polite of course and keep quiet rather than let him know)

You got me thinking about whether she is assertive enough. I think she is. She came onto me when we met btw, not the other way around.
 
Hiatussin said:
I don´t feel I´m trying to belittle her. I don´t "pick" debates with her your post just made me think about the times that they did happen and yes usually she ended up subscribing to my opinion. She´s really very infatuated with me and I do wonder sometimes if she´d thinking for herself and standing up for her opinions enough.

She has hobbies and friends I dislike that she still enjoys and continues though. I don´t think I rule her life. We usually meet because she has time at that moment, not me.



Could you be with a woman that was strong and opinionated?
 
Evil_Frisky said:
Could you be with a woman that was strong and opinionated?
My sister is an attorney and VERY eloquent and opinionated. She gives some of the best coherent sharp verbal shitstorms I´ve experienced when you rile her up. She´s never going to be a desk worker at a law firm, she´s a speaker who can and wants to speak to judges and juries.

I know her other side though, how jealous she can be concerning her man, how insecure and childish she gets, how much she really wants to be "protected" (she even confides me in that)

I don´t think I could fall in love with a girl until I she has shown her weaker side, be it purposely or by accident. Attraction may be greater as the contrast between these sides grows.

I don´t think I could be with either a "loser softie" or a "rock". You need both. I think we all have both in us.
 
Hiatussin said:
My sister is an attorney and VERY eloquent and opinionated. She gives some of the best coherent sharp verbal shitstorms I´ve experienced when you rile her up.

I know her other side though, how jealous she can be concerning her man, how insecure and childish she gets, how much she really wants to be "protected" (she even confides me in that)


I know many women like that. I have to say that though im not brillant i am I'm sharp, sucessful and goal oriented. I'm very level headed and opinionated. I was raised in a home where I couldn't have an opinion. THAT KILLED ME. It wasn't the way I was made up.
 
After reading the Razorguns quote I can safely conclude that I am never going to get laid. :(
 
Evil_Frisky said:
I know many women like that. I have to say that though im not brillant i am I'm sharp, sucessful and goal oriented. I'm very level headed and opinionated. I was raised in a home where I couldn't have an opinion. THAT KILLED ME. It wasn't the way I was made up.

Just for the sake of the argument- A lot of women are born, according to them, now and in all times past, with the need to express their opinion. Their influence on culture, science and history has been but a small afterthought compared to mens.

Now of course women weren´t stimulated for this or expected or accepted to have profound opinions about public issues- But you claim you "couldn´t live this life" and having an outspoken opinion is an innate part of you.
I talked to a truely brilliant girl a while ago- I didn´t speak to her long enough to really gauge her but she had an amazing knowledge of history, philosophy, economy and politics that phased me a bit. She claimed, that if she were born in a world where she was expected to go to housekeeping school, then work in a mill until she got married and then cook the man dinner every day till she died, she would definately shrivel up and kill herself. This is what all women of feminism and of after-feminism say. Yet it took them so long to break these boundaries.

If the "female publically concerned intellect" is so strong and innate, why isn´t history filled with depressed women who aren´t reaching their potentials, trying to find a way out? Nobody seemed to really give a shit before Virginia Woolf (generally). It does appear to be Zeitgeist-learned behaviour for women to be so inquisitive and involved, rather than natural.

Of course perhaps a man raised in a reversely sexist world would react in much the same way. This must have started somewhere though (like another current thread deals with)
 
hidngod said:
He's a purty smart fecker. he wrote the first post. Don't know how much of that he actually believes, but if he subscribes to it, I hope his g.f. is the one, 'cause he ain't gonna find another one. Unless he goes into the mountains of Bulgaria, Latvia, Afghanistan, or any other 2nd or 3rd world country.
IMO, many women are my equal, some are superior. It's not their gender, it's their brains, work ethic, or moral compass that makes them so.


lol @ this. But still cant be generalized if women are from 2nd or 3rd world country that they are gonna be weak and obeying. It all depends on the culture and religion.
 
foreigngirl said:
lol @ this. But still cant be generalized if women are from 2nd or 3rd world country that they are gonna be weak and obeying. It all depends on the culture and religion.

That's why he picked those cultures.

Hiatussin, I dont completely agree with your initial post, but I respect it ALOT because of how insightful it is. Same with the follow-up by JayC.

Again, good reads.
 
foreigngirl said:
lol @ this. But still cant be generalized if women are from 2nd or 3rd world country that they are gonna be weak and obeying. It all depends on the culture and religion.
Ooooooooopps. My bad, LOL.
I picked those place with just a vague idea of cultural & religious norms there.
I could have just as easily said the back woods of Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Lotta Mennonites around here.
My point was, if you, as a man, think that you can lay the law down & have your woman docilely go along with what you say, you're in trouble. Or if you think that you are an innately better thinker, smarter, or wiser person, 'cause you are a guy, then you're missing out on a lot of fresh ideas.
If you are all that, then it's because you were born like that, not because you're a guy.
 
Not reading the thread, but the analysis of the second paragraph is true with very few exceptions unfortunately as I review my Univ. work on the subject. Not sure why females are so bad thinking theoretically and viewing truths in a vacuum in order to conduct an experiment but my experience is that they are down right horrible at it, even the smart ones.
To devise experiments in order to correlate, just one step of a longtidunal study, its like their brain freezes and I mean 4.0 PHd students
 
hidngod said:
Ooooooooopps. My bad, LOL.
I picked those place with just a vague idea of cultural & religious norms there.
I could have just as easily said the back woods of Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Lotta Mennonites around here.
My point was, if you, as a man, think that you can lay the law down & have your woman docilely go along with what you say, you're in trouble. Or if you think that you are an innately better thinker, smarter, or wiser person, 'cause you are a guy, then you're missing out on a lot of fresh ideas.
If you are all that, then it's because you were born like that, not because you're a guy.

IMO the father has a huge influence on how the son is gonna treat the women. If the father expects of the mother to serve him day in and day out - the son is gonna want the same thing; if the father is helping with the house chores - the son is gonna do the same thing. In my country I've seen both types of men, but I always stumbled across a man that wants to dominate in everything :worried:
 
foreigngirl said:
IMO the father has a huge influence on how the son is gonna treat the women. If the father expects of the mother to serve him day in and day out - the son is gonna want the same thing; if the father is helping with the house chores - the son is gonna do the same thing. In my country I've seen both types of men, but I always stumbled across a man that wants to dominate in everything :worried:
In my case, my father, even though at the time I disrespected him severely, taught me how to treat women.
I looked at my Dad as a wuss. A half man that let my mother push him around, & waited on her like a servant.
I am my father's son. There are not many things worth arguing about, so we rarely argue. I now treat my wife, almost the same way my Dad treated my Mom. He taught me, being a man isn't all bluster & proving your right all the time. I wish my Mom was still alive, so I could tell her what I've been taught.
 
hidngod said:
In my case, my father, even though at the time I disrespected him severely, taught me how to treat women.
I looked at my Dad as a wuss. A half man that let my mother push him around, & waited on her like a servant.
I am my father's son. There are not many things worth arguing about, so we rarely argue. I now treat my wife, almost the same way my Dad treated my Mom. He taught me, being a man isn't all bluster & proving your right all the time. I wish my Mom was still alive, so I could tell her what I've been taught.


In my case, my dad was bossing me around way too much and thats why I dont like to be bossed around and told what to do. My husbands dad - he wanted to be catored to (still does) and my husband expected the same thing from me. But it didnt happen. I still do everything for him, but within limits. At least I dont put his socks on for him
 
foreigngirl said:
In my case, my dad was bossing me around way too much and thats why I dont like to be bossed around and told what to do. My husbands dad - he wanted to be catored to (still does) and my husband expected the same thing from me. But it didnt happen. I still do everything for him, but within limits. At least I dont put his socks on for him
it sounds like you´re contradicting yourself

do you do everything for him or not
 
Hiatussin said:
it sounds like you´re contradicting yourself

do you do everything for him or not


well, I cook for him and get the meal on the table for him, put it away, do his laundary....the regular wife stuff. But I dont go too old fashioned to put his socks on for him, get his clothes out of his closet that he is gonna wear for the day, put his jacket on....and his co-workers still think that he has me trained
 
foreigngirl said:
well, I cook for him and get the meal on the table for him, put it away, do his laundary....the regular wife stuff. But I dont go too old fashioned to put his socks on for him, get his clothes out of his closet that he is gonna wear for the day, put his jacket on....and his co-workers still think that he has me trained
I think such behaviour is good depending on how hard he works
I know entrepeneurs bringing in lots of cash who are technically working say 14 hours a day. A wife would be brutally lazy if she didn´t do ALL his chores to allow him to keep his head straight, for both their sakes
 
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They just went about it like they had a grudge against men instead of doing something uniquely independent.
 
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