Well Leroy I must say if you're getting it via an HRT doctor or clinic, then that's good for you. I was merely giving him a dose at which he could really see the results and benefits of GH. Under that and virtually no muscular effects will be seen. You can do a lot with GH depending on how you dose, taking it eod or ed is again missing the boat. Splitting the dose is much more effective for fat burning and getting lean, and make sure you stay away from carbs for at least an hour after your dose. I have used it up to 8 ius, tried 10ius for a couple of days, but the numbness was pretty intense. And honestly if you don't use it at at least 5ius, you're much better off with peptides IMO. I'm sure some EF experts who have never used it can copy and paste you their last study featured in The Oxford Journal of Medicine, but I'm just telling you what I know from first hand experience brah.