This Made Me LOL

[Mr. dB]

does it matter?

I dunno. Anthropology does matter to me, if it doesn't matter to you then maybe you're just not very curious?

 

[mrplunkey]

I remember what it was like before we were "over-regulated, over-governed and over-taxed", and I don't recall any businesses voluntarily doing anything to reduce the impact of their various waste products. We've seen how the "free market" deals with the environment. I don't think that going back to a time when the East River or the Cuyahoga were in danger of catching on fire is a good thing.

Then you have a terrible memory.

I'll cite one of many, many examples that hit close to home. The weight and packaging of medical plastics has plummeted over the last 25-30 years.

Here's a statistic for you: A round blue basin today weighs 68% less than it's 1985 predecessor. Why?

1) Less plastic = lower material cost
2) Less plastic = lower hold times in mold = faster cycle time
3) Less plastic = lower disposal cost for customers

Now how in the world could this have happened without our government taking the lead?

It's a miracle computers got faster, cell phones got more powerful and girls got hotter all without government help.

 

[Mr. dB]

Then you have a terrible memory.

I'll cite one of many, many examples that hit close to home. The weight and packaging of medical plastics has plummeted over the last 25-30 years.

Here's a statistic for you: A round blue basin today weighs 68% less than it's 1985 predecessor. Why?

1) Less plastic = lower material cost
2) Less plastic = lower hold times in mold = faster cycle time
3) Less plastic = lower disposal cost for customers

Now how in the world could this have happened without our government taking the lead?

It's a miracle computers got faster, cell phones got more powerful and girls got hotter all without government help.

Computers and cell phones, based on the microchip, technical fallout from the Space Program.

The blue basin makes sense because cost was reduced. But what if dumping slag in the river gives a cost savings to the mill? Do you think they would voluntarily use a more expensive disposal method without being forced? Do you think the corner service station would have stopped dumping used oil in a field if they hadn't been forced? Would the auto makers have reduced emissions without the force of government smog regulations?

 

[mrplunkey]

Computers and cell phones, based on the microchip, technical fallout from the Space Program.

Ahhh... the all-mighty space program. Know those space shuttles they retired a year or so ago? They were based on 80286 technology. Do you even know what an 80286 is? It's NASA leading the way.

The blue basin makes sense because cost was reduced. But what if dumping slag in the river gives a cost savings to the mill? Do you think they would voluntarily use a more expensive disposal method without being forced? Do you think the corner service station would have stopped dumping used oil in a field if they hadn't been forced? Would the auto makers have reduced emissions without the force of government smog regulations?

Of course they'd improve their products and services without government intervention. Why is a single Prius on the road? Why does organic food even exist? What about row after row of items labeled "all natural" and "fat free"? Why is antibiotic meat and free range chicken even available? I can name billions and billions of allegedly green/clean/health industries that exist even though the government hasn't mandated their existence.

 

[redsamurai]

Well God knows we all need several hundred pounds of bench in today's philistine environment. Not a day goes by where I think: "Gosh, I could be more professionally successful if only I could bench an additional 300 lbs!"

Here's a newsflash: Perhaps the reason you need the "high octane" (which is a scam) stuff is because you wrecked your body with poor choices of illegal AAS, irresponsible workouts and perpetual fogging. Plus, let's be honest here -- that little four-cylinder engine of yours you call a mind probably does need all the octane it can gather, but the vast majority of us can get up and over the rolling hills of life just fine.

And yet you chose to SARMS which has an infinite less amount of safety research behind it. So sorry old man you do indeed think about this often otherwise you wouldn't be at a steroid board posting diaries of your performance enhancing escapades. What kind of fool....

 

[redsamurai]

Outstanding straw man!

It's not a matter of people who want to save the planet and those who want to destroy it.

It's a matter of people who advocate irrational, impractical, economically unfeasible solutions based on junk science and those who don't.


Taking actions based solely on belief and faith isn't science -- it's religion. And the vast majority of today's enviro-whacko movement certainly qualifies as a religion.

And here's another thing I'd like someone to explain to me: We're already over-regulated, over-governed and over-taxed. Yet enviro-whacko's constantly run to the government and courts for more regulation. If environmental pollution really is such a big problem, what in the world would lead someone to believe that our government could do anything constructive in the first place? They can't deliver our mail, balance their checkbook, rein-in corruption and graft, control health care costs, etc. etc. What makes you think for a second they can heal Mother Earth?

Here's an interesting test: Above, you cited your concern for our limited natural resources, particularly food and water. I'm going to assume you are against genocide and/or Chinese-style population control, which means there will only be more people over time. So based on your statements above, you must hate the scam of organic farming, correct? Imagine if the entire world heeded those nutjobs and immediately switched to organic methods. Productivity per acre would plummet. It would require vast new amounts of deforestation and tremendous amounts of fresh water to make-up the difference in production. Yet instead, we rely on modern technology to increase yields per acre, produce plants that are more drought resistant, disease resistant, etc. etc. God bless the Monsanto corporation.

Isn't modern science wonderful in its ability to reduce the need for deforestation and fresh water? You are completely against a changeover to organic farming, aren't you?

1) The free market as it currently is will not do anything so where else can they go? govt is inept yes but they're inept because they're being paid to be inept.

2)U assume i would be against Chinese style pop control? Well, for now maybe cause we don't have 1B people....but in a decade probably. Maybe even sooner. We won't have a choice dingleberry.

3) We don't herbicideds,pesticies and GMO's to grow shit. We grew shit long before corporations existed. Did this slip your addled old mind? We need these current "technologies" because we'e completely ruined our farmland. Nothing can grwo without millions of pound of animal feces laid down first. This happened because we centralized our food chain. Few people now make more food than ever in the history of man. So that land yes is gone and new land does need to be cultivated which does mean trees may need to be cut down but new trees have to be planted in the old land. This really is simple stuff so i do hope you're following.

And the point about water is absolutely valid there dinglebrain, which is why people kind of sort of don't feel like oil pipelines should be running through acquiefers that supply hte majority of our farmland with water. You take out our water sources and Monsanto can make seeds that glow in the dark, they ain't gonna grow nothin without fucking water. Is this babystepping really necessary?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

who the fuck cares about the environment, it is not going to affect any of us while we are here on this earth. The media does a good job scaring people into thinking we need the governments help...lmao global warming was a hoax, why would anyone believe anything about the environment. The only thing I wont do is purposely litter, thats about it

 

[ISLAND~COCONUT]

Global warming currently is my opinion

 

[mrplunkey]

And yet you chose to SARMS which has an infinite less amount of safety research behind it. So sorry old man you do indeed think about this often otherwise you wouldn't be at a steroid board posting diaries of your performance enhancing escapades. What kind of fool....

And yet my heart and back still work... And I'm older than you as well.

Tough break, being all screwed up and still in school. It amuses me though, so carry on,

 

[mrplunkey]

1) The free market as it currently is will not do anything so where else can they go? govt is inept yes but they're inept because they're being paid to be inept.

2)U assume i would be against Chinese style pop control? Well, for now maybe cause we don't have 1B people....but in a decade probably. Maybe even sooner. We won't have a choice dingleberry.

3) We don't herbicideds,pesticies and GMO's to grow shit. We grew shit long before corporations existed. Did this slip your addled old mind? We need these current "technologies" because we'e completely ruined our farmland. Nothing can grwo without millions of pound of animal feces laid down first. This happened because we centralized our food chain. Few people now make more food than ever in the history of man. So that land yes is gone and new land does need to be cultivated which does mean trees may need to be cut down but new trees have to be planted in the old land. This really is simple stuff so i do hope you're following.

And the point about water is absolutely valid there dinglebrain, which is why people kind of sort of don't feel like oil pipelines should be running through acquiefers that supply hte majority of our farmland with water. You take out our water sources and Monsanto can make seeds that glow in the dark, they ain't gonna grow nothin without fucking water. Is this babystepping really necessary?

Musclemom:

I submit evidence Exhibit A. This is what all hippy libtard enviro-whackos sound like.

It's not too late for you. Is ^^^ where you really want to wind up?