Accepting who we are.....

[blueta2]

We are never good enough, thin enough, big enough, smart enough, rich enough etc?
I, for one, am always crucifying myself to do better.
This site a perfect place to ask this b/c many here strive for perfection.
I'm not saying we should lose perspective on our goals, but why the need to always be better when what we have is really ok??!
Why can't we just accept who we are and what we have?

 

[alien amp pharm]

f off !

 

[stilleto]

i am AAP and i'm fine with that.
it's shadow that I hate being.


but really, i'm fine with myself. Not that i'm perfect of course, but i don't sweat the things that aren't great. what ev a.

 

[musclemom]

We are never good enough, thin enough, big enough, smart enough, rich enough etc?
I, for one, am always crucifying myself to do better.
This site a perfect place to ask this b/c many here strive for perfection.
I'm not saying we should lose perspective on our goals, but why the need to always be better when what we have is really ok??!
Why can't we just accept who we are and what we have?

We are hard wired as animals to do so. Read Temple Grandin's book, "Animal communication," seeking behavior is hardwired into our brains. It makes us happier than anything else, really (the old saw about a guy who is only interested in the chase?) Striving to be richer, bigger, more ripped, have a bigger house, faster car, etc., it's all a variation on Seeking behavior.

 

[AAP]

When I am S-to the-O, I am pretty much OK. It is when I am MTS or Larry that I find myself really worrying about how things are going for me.

 

[blueta2]

We are hard wired as animals to do so. Read Temple Grandin's book, "Animal communication," seeking behavior is hardwired into our brains. It makes us happier than anything else, really (the old saw about a guy who is only interested in the chase?) Striving to be richer, bigger, more ripped, have a bigger house, faster car, etc., it's all a variation on Seeking behavior.

I understand the desires to have or do better, but if let's say someone has a great body, they worked hard, they look great, but they still feel fat or not big enough. That is past striving and going into not accepting.
It's really exhausting always trying to be "better" when if we can just accept our worries and stress will lessen

 

[blueta2]

i am AAP and i'm fine with that.
it's shadow that I hate being.


but really, i'm fine with myself. Not that i'm perfect of course, but i don't sweat the things that aren't great. what ev a.

It's cool to be fine with yourself, but then you and I have this constant worry. Why worry? Are things not good enough?! See what I'm saying.


I'm feeling very philosophical today.....;-)

aap, I'm sorry this thread is beyond your pea brain of understanding, I'll start a "would you hit it" or a "Building an addition to my hillbilly house" soon ok hunny bunch!

 

[ortiz34]

I just come here and read some posts and realize how normal and lucky I really am.

 

[vixensghost]

Where necessity ends, curiosity begins;and no sooner are we supplied with EVERYTHING we demand, then we sit down to contrive artificial appetites.

 

[stilleto]

It's cool to be fine with yourself, but then you and I have this constant worry. Why worry? Are things not good enough?! See what I'm saying.


I'm feeling very philosophical today.....;-)

aap, I'm sorry this thread is beyond your pea brain of understanding, I'll start a "would you hit it" or a "Building an addition to my hillbilly house" soon ok hunny bunch!

i do worry a lot, but not so much about myself. more about things like my kids or the future or something i'm planning or if something i'm doing will be successful.
i worry about my failing memory, but that's an understandable worry IMO. about being "good enough"- i don't worry.

 

[Gambino]

I just come here and read some posts and realize how normal and lucky I really am.

word

 

[blueta2]

I just come here and read some posts and realize how normal and lucky I really am.

This has nothing to do with being unlucky or not normal.
I think all ppl feel this way to a certain extent

How do u feel so lucky and normal?

 

[blueta2]

i do worry a lot, but not so much about myself. more about things like my kids or the future or something i'm planning or if something i'm doing will be successful.
i worry about my failing memory, but that's an understandable worry IMO. about being "good enough"- i don't worry.

Then you're lucky...I think the majority of the population feels they are not good enough and need to be thinner, better, smarter etc.


Oh well, maybe it's just me ;-)

 

[CrazyRussian]

I understand the desires to have or do better, but if let's say someone has a great body, they worked hard, they look great, but they still feel fat or not big enough. That is past striving and going into not accepting.
It's really exhausting always trying to be "better" when if we can just accept our worries and stress will lessen

It's biological homie we can never stop striving to improve on some aspect of our lives. After all, no one is perfect and tehre is always something to improve. Humans, by our nature, want to improve it. And even if you're Ronnie Coleman, you still have along way to go before your body looks ideal.

 

[blueta2]

It's biological homie we can never stop striving to improve on some aspect of our lives. After all, no one is perfect and tehre is always something to improve. Humans, by our nature, want to improve it. And even if you're Ronnie Coleman, you still have along way to go before your body looks ideal.

so basically, we will never accept who we are?
I disagree, I think at some point, we will feel content when we can accept who we are.
I'm never going to have c cup boobs or a great singing voice, so I should kill myself or tear myself down b/c I don't?!

 

[lil_brah]

I'm at a different beach every week-end and I see hundreds of people who seem to be very happy with who they are.

I was at a huge National Park (beach) this past weekend on Lake Huron and saw so many fat, overweight women full of cellulite and they were all in bathing suits. AND of course the men with big guts, back hair, beer belly's etc...etc...

I'm just like "wow these fat asses just dont care"

I really have to give them respect for being happy with their own bodies. Good for them. Wish I could be happy with my not fat but not lean body.

We are never good enough, thin enough, big enough, smart enough, rich enough etc?
I, for one, am always crucifying myself to do better.
This site a perfect place to ask this b/c many here strive for perfection.
I'm not saying we should lose perspective on our goals, but why the need to always be better when what we have is really ok??!
Why can't we just accept who we are and what we have?

 

[yonkers weights]

It is the person inside me. I push myself to always want more. I want the bigger house. The nicer car. The better suit. The best lifestyle! I will NEVER SETTLE! It is just in me to push! I want to always improve myself.
As a friend, a man, a son, a brother, a uncle, a husband, etc
Why settle, why not improve?
It is not that I don't accept myself but I am improving myself to be a better person!

 

[puddlemonkey]

I just come here and read some posts and realize how normal and lucky I really am.

word

Very good Gammy! I'm so proud of you! It is plural though, which means there were more than one, so next time use 'words'. We'll work on counting to ten later tonight.

 

[vixensghost]

It is the person inside me. I push myself to always want more. I want the bigger house. The nicer car. The better suit. The best lifestyle! I will NEVER SETTLE! It is just in me to push! I want to always improve myself.
As a friend, a man, a son, a brother, a uncle, a husband, etc
Why settle, why not improve?
It is not that I don't accept myself but I am improving myself to be a better person!

I'm pushing for an answer..Who is that in your avatar?

 

[yonkers weights]

That was me at a photo shoot 2 years ago. Why?

 

[vixensghost]

That was me at a photo shoot 2 years ago. Why?

Where are the dimples?

 

[yonkers weights]

They are there just not showing that much.
They show more when I smile but I had a serious face on in the pic.
Plus I was leaner then.... :-(

 

[heatherrae]

We are never good enough, thin enough, big enough, smart enough, rich enough etc?
I, for one, am always crucifying myself to do better.
This site a perfect place to ask this b/c many here strive for perfection.
I'm not saying we should lose perspective on our goals, but why the need to always be better when what we have is really ok??!
Why can't we just accept who we are and what we have?

If only the song birds sang, the forrest would be very quiet.



So, sing, even if you are not the best.

 

[blueta2]

I'm at a different beach every week-end and I see hundreds of people who seem to be very happy with who they are.

I was at a huge National Park (beach) this past weekend on Lake Huron and saw so many fat, overweight women full of cellulite and they were all in bathing suits. AND of course the men with big guts, back hair, beer belly's etc...etc...

I'm just like "wow these fat asses just dont care"

I really have to give them respect for being happy with their own bodies. Good for them. Wish I could be happy with my not fat but not lean body.

That's what I mean....you get me ;-)

Great story

 

[CrazyRussian]

so basically, we will never accept who we are?
I disagree, I think at some point, we will feel content when we can accept who we are.
I'm never going to have c cup boobs or a great singing voice, so I should kill myself or tear myself down b/c I don't?!

No, we won't ever accept who we are. That's the whole point...humans, by nature, will never be content. We will never have everything we want because our wants are unlimited. We can be satisfied with what we currently have while striving for even greater (insert whatever you want here), but never content.

 

[yonkers weights]

We all can always push ourselves. It makes us care and keeps us alive.
It is when we don't care and don't push, we die on the inside and then on the outside...

It is the person inside me. I push myself to always want more. I want the bigger house. The nicer car. The better suit. The best lifestyle! I will NEVER SETTLE! It is just in me to push! I want to always improve myself.
As a friend, a man, a son, a brother, a uncle, a husband, etc
Why settle, why not improve?
It is not that I don't accept myself but I am improving myself to be a better person!

 

[musclemom]

I understand the desires to have or do better, but if let's say someone has a great body, they worked hard, they look great, but they still feel fat or not big enough. That is past striving and going into not accepting.
It's really exhausting always trying to be "better" when if we can just accept our worries and stress will lessen

Then it's crossing the line into body dysmorphia. There's a difference between striving to achieve a specific goal and dealing with a neurosis. Like anything else we do in this life, it helps to be able to have a little objectivity and recognize your actions for what they are and whether they are reasonable or not.

In other words, the question is, are you dieting/working out because you enjoy the challenge/ the way you feel, and/or have a goal of looking better or are you dieting/working out because you hate your body?

 

[blueta2]

If only the song birds sang, the forrest would be very quiet.



So, sing, even if you are not the best.

I like that.....

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

We are hard wired as animals to do so. Read Temple Grandin's book, "Animal communication," seeking behavior is hardwired into our brains. It makes us happier than anything else, really (the old saw about a guy who is only interested in the chase?) Striving to be richer, bigger, more ripped, have a bigger house, faster car, etc., it's all a variation on Seeking behavior.

 

[blueta2]

Then it's crossing the line into body dysmorphia. There's a difference between striving to achieve a specific goal and dealing with a neurosis. Like anything else we do in this life, it helps to be able to have a little objectivity and recognize your actions for what they are and whether they are reasonable or not.

In other words, the question is, are you dieting/working out because you enjoy the challenge/ the way you feel, and/or have a goal of looking better or are you dieting/working out because you hate your body?

For me personally, I started working out b/c I was a chubby-wubby and disliked my body. Then once I started working out, I did it b/c it made me feel good.
Striving for more and better is good (I expressed this in a thread the other day), but I'm not really talking about striving, but having distain for your life b/c you want to be better.
By the way, the only distain I have for myself is that of my body. You know what they say, once a fatty always a fatty. I will always see myself as the chubby kid.
So I work up this morning feeling bad about the bulge here or the roll there and it got me thinking, "when will I just accept how I look and stop worrying about it"
Hence the thread...but I know ppl who are always beating themselves up about not being better, bigger, smarter etc...!
Prob is, no one here is admitting to it ;-)

 

[yonkers weights]

Good question. I like my body but want to look and feel better.

Then it's crossing the line into body dysmorphia. There's a difference between striving to achieve a specific goal and dealing with a neurosis. Like anything else we do in this life, it helps to be able to have a little objectivity and recognize your actions for what they are and whether they are reasonable or not.

In other words, the question is, are you dieting/working out because you enjoy the challenge/ the way you feel, and/or have a goal of looking better or are you dieting/working out because you hate your body?

 

[blueta2]

We all can always push ourselves. It makes us care and keeps us alive.
It is when we don't care and don't push, we die on the inside and then on the outside...

I push daily and I will continue to push, I just want to be happy with where I'm at now.

 

[musclemom]

If the SOLE reason you work out is because you HATE yourself and your punishing your body, then it's fucked up. If you look in the mirror and are repelled by what you see despite the fact that other people tell you you are fine/beautiful/hot, then something's wrong.

 

[blueta2]

If the SOLE reason you work out is because you HATE yourself and your punishing your body, then it's fucked up. If you look in the mirror and are repelled by what you see despite the fact that other people tell you you are fine/beautiful/hot, then something's wrong.

Goodness......heheh! I don't hate myself or are repelled, but yes when I look in the mirror I don't like certain parts of me, which like I said, I think many ppl feel the same way. Hence why diet pills and gyms are popular

 

[jerkbox]

I'm at a different beach every week-end and I see hundreds of people who seem to be very happy with who they are.

I was at a huge National Park (beach) this past weekend on Lake Huron and saw so many fat, overweight women full of cellulite and they were all in bathing suits. AND of course the men with big guts, back hair, beer belly's etc...etc...

I'm just like "wow these fat asses just dont care"

I really have to give them respect for being happy with their own bodies. Good for them. Wish I could be happy with my not fat but not lean body.

pfftt...those fatties hate their bodies...they're just weak and/or have just given up. those fatties are the ones who are buying the fad diet crap, and are failing miserably.

i've had a few zen moments....but yeah, i beat myself up a lot, as most people do.

 

[musclemom]

Goodness......heheh! I don't hate myself or are repelled, but yes when I look in the mirror I don't like certain parts of me, which like I said, I think many ppl feel the same way. Hence why diet pills and gyms are popular

I was talking in the "general you" if you know what I mean

Not liking certain parts is normal, at heart we're all creative and actually looking at this or that body part and saying "I'd look better if this were smoother or that were smaller" is sort of being artistic. It's when a person starts seeing themselves as worthless because of those few less than perfect parts, when they can't look past the individual parts and take the value of the whole package, what's inside as well as outside, that they start running into problems.

 

[Nathan]

My opinion:

Peopel are WAY too easy on themselves. Like, all of them. You SAY you are hard on yourselves but if that were true, you'd be working harder to change things. If you are REALLY unhappy wiht yourself, you won't let it stand. Otherwise, you are just talking.

What happens in most cases is people are being SUPER easy on themselves, want to be even easier and give themselves an excuse to be lazier, and so they somehow convince themselves they're being hard on themselves. Um...dude, it's true. You're fat. You could do better. If you don't care, cool move on. But don't sit there fat as a fool and tell me it really bothers you. It clearly doesn't bother you all that much or you wouldn't let yourself get away with it.

I don't mean to sound like a Nazi, but nothing bothers me more than a whole lot of talking concluded by a pat on the back. Way to never accomplish a god damn thing in life.

I will die alone because I think like this.

 

[samoth]

My opinion:

Peopel are WAY too easy on themselves. Like, all of them. You SAY you are hard on yourselves but if that were true, you'd be working harder to change things. If you are REALLY unhappy wiht yourself, you won't let it stand. Otherwise, you are just talking.

What happens in most cases is people are being SUPER easy on themselves, want to be even easier and give themselves an excuse to be lazier, and so they somehow convince themselves they're being hard on themselves. Um...dude, it's true. You're fat. You could do better. If you don't care, cool move on. But don't sit there fat as a fool and tell me it really bothers you. It clearly doesn't bother you all that much or you wouldn't let yourself get away with it.

I don't mean to sound like a Nazi, but nothing bothers me more than a whole lot of talking concluded by a pat on the back. Way to never accomplish a god damn thing in life.

I will die alone because I think like this.

TITCRED

 

[Nathan]

People who are hard on themselves accomplish things, people who aren't do not. It's that black and white.

I see it like this: You can divide people into two types. Those who are able to acquire self-esteem without ever having to do anything (good at lyiong to themselves), and those who gain self-esteem by living through experiences, testing themselves and learning from their experiences. The interesting thing about the latter category is that most of those people, for whatever reason, never test themselves enough to gain a sizeable amount of self esteem. The former type of person is typically full of shit and past a certain age usually has trouble selling it to the rest of the population anymore since people wise-up.

I dunno but for me, self esteem always seemed like the kind of thing you had to earn. How the fuck do you know if you're worth a damn thing if you've never done anything?

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

My opinion:

Peopel are WAY too easy on themselves. Like, all of them. You SAY you are hard on yourselves but if that were true, you'd be working harder to change things. If you are REALLY unhappy wiht yourself, you won't let it stand. Otherwise, you are just talking.

What happens in most cases is people are being SUPER easy on themselves, want to be even easier and give themselves an excuse to be lazier, and so they somehow convince themselves they're being hard on themselves. Um...dude, it's true. You're fat. You could do better. If you don't care, cool move on. But don't sit there fat as a fool and tell me it really bothers you. It clearly doesn't bother you all that much or you wouldn't let yourself get away with it.

I don't mean to sound like a Nazi, but nothing bothers me more than a whole lot of talking concluded by a pat on the back. Way to never accomplish a god damn thing in life.

I will die alone because I think like this.

Too bad the Holocaust had to happen. This country would be in much better shape if it was more Nazi-like.

 

[CrazyRussian]

My opinion:

Peopel are WAY too easy on themselves. Like, all of them. You SAY you are hard on yourselves but if that were true, you'd be working harder to change things. If you are REALLY unhappy wiht yourself, you won't let it stand. Otherwise, you are just talking.

What happens in most cases is people are being SUPER easy on themselves, want to be even easier and give themselves an excuse to be lazier, and so they somehow convince themselves they're being hard on themselves. Um...dude, it's true. You're fat. You could do better. If you don't care, cool move on. But don't sit there fat as a fool and tell me it really bothers you. It clearly doesn't bother you all that much or you wouldn't let yourself get away with it.

I don't mean to sound like a Nazi, but nothing bothers me more than a whole lot of talking concluded by a pat on the back. Way to never accomplish a god damn thing in life.

I will die alone because I think like this.

Let me preface this by saying I agree with you...

but I dont really. In terms of your body, you're right. But there are other things you can be too hard on yourself about. For example, if I am introduced to a girl and fail to make an impression on her, I'm pretty much depressed for the next few days. I keep telling myself how much I suck, how I'll never get with a decent girl again, how I'm not even a real man, how much life sucks and is pointless. I hope that at least one of those isn't true...but I can't help but thinking it. So i think thats an example ofo ne being too hard on themselves that is pretty valid...and happens to a lot of people methinks

 

[lil_brah]

I dunno but for me, self esteem always seemed like the kind of thing you had to earn. How the fuck do you know if you're worth a damn thing if you've never done anything?

Bet you don't have kids eh Nathan?
It is tough as heck trying to build up their self confidence some times.

 

[jerkbox]

People who are hard on themselves accomplish things, people who aren't do not. It's that black and white.

I see it like this: You can divide people into two types. Those who are able to acquire self-esteem without ever having to do anything (good at lyiong to themselves), and those who gain self-esteem by living through experiences, testing themselves and learning from their experiences. The interesting thing about the latter category is that most of those people, for whatever reason, never test themselves enough to gain a sizeable amount of self esteem. The former type of person is typically full of shit and past a certain age usually has trouble selling it to the rest of the population anymore since people wise-up.

I dunno but for me, self esteem always seemed like the kind of thing you had to earn. How the fuck do you know if you're worth a damn thing if you've never done anything?

i don't think being hard on one's self equates to self hatred though....2 different things in my opinion. I think it's healthy to push yourself, but that can turn into punishing yourself if you don't learn to deal with failures, because everyone fails.

and i think that people who are truly happy with themselves have no desire to sell that to anyone....they just are. The one's that are always selling it....well, they're the ones who the most unhappy....a few of those around here.

 

[velvett]

I think there's a difference between making a goal, reaching it and setting a new one.

When it is a (let's be honest here) a mental isssue - it's because that particular person does not know when the have reached their goal and can not make a logical step to achieve another. They also do not set a realistic goal that they can achieve in x time or at all so they have failed before they even get started.

 

[EnderJE]

I think that you all need to get fucked to get off this train.

 

[layinback]

well being darwinian and all......this is it. its not very romantic or mysterious but ALL human behavior can be explained via the evolutionary route. down to those god-awful shiny rims ppl put on there vehicles. (status: i got $$$ for rims fuck me) my body is good i make lots of $$$ my jaw is square my legs are long= your genes are safe with me. we have to invent gods, ufo's, romance, conspiracy theories, esp and afterlives because the reality of physics and evolution just aint enough for most folks. the irony here is if you have the intellectual prerequisites and you study these subjects you will be more than satisfied with the TRUE mysteries of life and the pursuit of them. we are like we are to propagate the species. also see GESTALT THEORY. ok flame away.......

 

[Nathan]

Let me preface this by saying I agree with you...

but I dont really. In terms of your body, you're right. But there are other things you can be too hard on yourself about. For example, if I am introduced to a girl and fail to make an impression on her, I'm pretty much depressed for the next few days. I keep telling myself how much I suck, how I'll never get with a decent girl again, how I'm not even a real man, how much life sucks and is pointless. I hope that at least one of those isn't true...but I can't help but thinking it. So i think thats an example ofo ne being too hard on themselves that is pretty valid...and happens to a lot of people methinks

I think you take it too far though. I say I used to think more like that and then after I tried certain things I was less-than-confident about a few times I started to have other things to tell myself - "Yeah, but you accomplished this..." and "Sure, but you got through that whole debacle alright..."

I try to think more about what it was that I did that resulted in me fucking shit up - then try not to do that again. You can be hard on yourself but try to guide yourself with a strong hand at the same time. It's weird I guess. I can't always get it right but when I do I know a big part of it was because I was hard on myself and demanded better. Had I let myself off the hook I never would have tried.

This needs to be moved to the motivational speaking board.

 

[blueta2]

well being darwinian and all......this is it. its not very romantic or mysterious but ALL human behavior can be explained via the evolutionary route. down to those god-awful shiny rims ppl put on there vehicles. (status: i got $$$ for rims fuck me) my body is good i make lots of $$$ my jaw is square my legs are long= your genes are safe with me. we have to invent gods, ufo's, romance, conspiracy theories, esp and afterlives because the reality of physics and evolution just aint enough for most folks. the irony here is if you have the intellectual prerequisites and you study these subjects you will be more than satisfied with the TRUE mysteries of life and the pursuit of them. we are like we are to propagate the species. also see GESTALT THEORY. ok flame away.......

hey Nathan, looks like you're not the only one who will die alone...haha!

kidding......good post, but I still believe in UFO's and ESP

 

[velvett]

My opinion:

Peopel are WAY too easy on themselves. Like, all of them. You SAY you are hard on yourselves but if that were true, you'd be working harder to change things. If you are REALLY unhappy wiht yourself, you won't let it stand. Otherwise, you are just talking.

What happens in most cases is people are being SUPER easy on themselves, want to be even easier and give themselves an excuse to be lazier, and so they somehow convince themselves they're being hard on themselves. Um...dude, it's true. You're fat. You could do better. If you don't care, cool move on. But don't sit there fat as a fool and tell me it really bothers you. It clearly doesn't bother you all that much or you wouldn't let yourself get away with it.

I don't mean to sound like a Nazi, but nothing bothers me more than a whole lot of talking concluded by a pat on the back. Way to never accomplish a god damn thing in life.

I will die alone because I think like this.

God, if I were younger and single...

 

[PBR]

We are never good enough, thin enough, big enough, smart enough, rich enough etc?
I, for one, am always crucifying myself to do better.
This site a perfect place to ask this b/c many here strive for perfection.
I'm not saying we should lose perspective on our goals, but why the need to always be better when what we have is really ok??!
Why can't we just accept who we are and what we have?

we live thru our "ego", of the physical and material world...it is when we transcend spiritually these things we live for- become less of a focus...when the majority of the people that surround us are living thru the "ego" it is a most difficult endeavor to be "removed" from it, so we join in to be acceptable and competitive...we are bombarded from all directions of "how" and "what" to be, 24/7...its a constant battle for some who are more aware of the alternative world, others simply go along and flow with traffic.

 

[velvett]

Bet you don't have kids eh Nathan?
It is tough as heck trying to build up their self confidence some times.

It's odd that you should say that because I know I get my ideas of perfection directly from my parents and being raised by them. Unfortunately, my own standards are so high that for others that are not used to such a thing I am at times in their eyes as someone that just can not be pleased.

I don't think you can build the confidence of your children you can be supportive of them but finding themselves and their value must be done of their own. (Unless you want to create a Paris Hilton sort of child) And although I am not a parent, I think that as a parent or teacher you must know the difference between challanged a child and breaking their spirit.

 

[Spartacus]

I'm just like "wow these fat asses just dont care"

I really have to give them respect for being happy with their own bodies. Good for them. Wish I could be happy with my not fat but not lean body.

I don't think they are
I think many use food to medicate their lousy self esteems
and it gets worse
kind of like an alcoholic using alcohol to treat depression(something I've done)

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

We are never good enough, thin enough, big enough, smart enough, rich enough etc?
I, for one, am always crucifying myself to do better.
This site a perfect place to ask this b/c many here strive for perfection.
I'm not saying we should lose perspective on our goals, but why the need to always be better when what we have is really ok??!
Why can't we just accept who we are and what we have?

In America if someones asks "What do you do?" the person responds with their job/career. In Europe, they typically respond with a hobby or pastime.
It shows what is stressed in different societies. It might have something to do with overall difference in life expectancies as well. Depends on what you value most in life.

 

[Wulfgar]

We are all those things
we are just so clouded and limited by definition most of those traits are held captive by our own ability to create

 

[biteme]

We are never good enough, thin enough, big enough, smart enough, rich enough etc?
I, for one, am always crucifying myself to do better.
This site a perfect place to ask this b/c many here strive for perfection.
I'm not saying we should lose perspective on our goals, but why the need to always be better when what we have is really ok??!
Why can't we just accept who we are and what we have?

Complacency. Maybe it's human nature to always try to improve in one or more areas. It doesn't bother some people to be fat and weak. It doesn't bother some people (ahemmm) to not have a lot of money). Sometimes I wish I could be satisfied with my physique and physical abilities but that will never happen.

 

[biteme]

In America if someones asks "What do you do?" the person responds with their job/career. In Europe, they typically respond with a hobby or pastime.
It shows what is stressed in different societies. It might have something to do with overall difference in life expectancies as well. Depends on what you value most in life.

I should have been born in Europe. I hate it when people ask me that question. They define you by your job in this country.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

well being darwinian and all......this is it. its not very romantic or mysterious but ALL human behavior can be explained via the evolutionary route. down to those god-awful shiny rims ppl put on there vehicles. (status: i got $$$ for rims fuck me) my body is good i make lots of $$$ my jaw is square my legs are long= your genes are safe with me. we have to invent gods, ufo's, romance, conspiracy theories, esp and afterlives because the reality of physics and evolution just aint enough for most folks. the irony here is if you have the intellectual prerequisites and you study these subjects you will be more than satisfied with the TRUE mysteries of life and the pursuit of them. we are like we are to propagate the species. also see GESTALT THEORY. ok flame away.......

Where do std's fit into this equation? Money don't cure herpes or HPV, for example. Status is still merely a mortal concept at best.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I should have been born in Europe. I hate it when people ask me that question. They define you by your job in this country.

There are as many rich pieces of shit out there as there are poor ones. Opposite ends of the status spectrum. Generally much of the poor deserve to be poor, rich to be rich, but I guess with capitalism the way it is these days it's not enough to work hard anymore.