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The Waxy Maize Starch Thread

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There have been a lot of questions regarding WMS. This should clear up some of the confusion...

From TP.com

Waxy Maize Starch is derived from natural corn starch and is a food grade modified starch. It is very bland in flavor and has a white fluffy like consistency. We recommend using a shaker or a blender (this is best) to mix this product. Immediate use is recommended as it has a tendency to clump. We have gone through great lengths testing and tweaking our Waxy Maize Starch to be palatable. We have found one that tastes fairly well and functionality wise it is top of the line.

So what’s so special with Waxy Maize in comparison to dextrose or maltodextrin? Many people have used a mix of dextrose and maltodextrin for post workout nutrition for years because it works and is vital for proper glycogen replenishment. Welcome to the new era of post workout nutrition… Waxy Maize Starch. WMS has a much higher molecular weight and a much lower osmolarity rate compared to dextrose or maltodextrin, so what does this mean… Mainly, WMS bypasses the stomach, is absorbed by the intestines and immediately is assimilated; this is all done at a much faster rate than dextrose or maltodextrin, almost double.

WMS can help the absorption rates of many of your favorite supplements like creatine monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester, cell volumization and nitric oxide type supplements, etc. Nutrients like this often times are left in the stomachs harsh acidic environment and degrade absorption rates. WMS helps shuttle these nutrients to bypass the stomach and allow the body to assimilate these nutrients at a much higher rate.

WMS has the ability to replenish the body’s glycogen stores much faster than a mix of maltodextrin or dextrose. This is accomplished again by WMS’s ability to bypass the stomach and go to the intestines for immediate absorption. WMS’s ability to shuttle all these nutrients and starch gives the body an immediate "pump" you can physically feel in your muscles post workout. You will see a much larger, fuller and rounder muscle belly.

Dextrose and maltodextrin can cause water retention and bloating, hence WMS’s popularity with pre contest and contest preparation carbohydrate replenishment. Many dieters choose WMS as their carb of choice as it is sugar free and an ideal source of a long chain complex carbohydrate.
 
Another thing... i see a lot of guys on here giving mixing recommendations for their WMS shakes. "Just mix three scoops with 12-16oz of water bro. You can throw your whey in there if you like." This is not good. The optimal way to mix WMS is in a 5-10% solution of water. This will allow the WMS to do it's job. If you do not mix it right, you might as well not even use it IMO. Proper mixing makes a world of difference.

For the mathematically impaired I have already done the leg work for you.... For every 50 grams of powder you need at least 1 liter of water. Your old rotten Nalgene bottle holds one liter of liquid.

So you can mix one 70cc scoop of WMS (40g) + 10g BCAA + 5g Creatine in 1L of water and this will give you about the perfect mixture. For those that need more than 40g of WMS PWO I suggest making two shakes in two separate bottles. This works good for me.

Ok we have the mixing part down and a good suggestion for what to put in it. The purpose of the WMS + BCAA/Creatine is to pull those nutrients into your muscles as fast as possible and refill your Glycogen stores that have been depleted during your workout. Well what about the Protein??? Well, adding whey to your WMS is not a good idea. It will dramatically slow down the WMS. The whole point of the WMS is to be "fast acting". I suggest that you consume your WMS immediately PWO then wait 15-30 minutes and have 50g Whey Isolate + 10g L-Leucine. This has been working really well for me, and I have seen others recommend something similar. At the minimum consume 40g of some sort of Whey 15-30 minutes after your WMS. 30-40 minutes after the whey is a good time to get a solid meal. Lean Protein(meat) is ideal here. Carb sources here may vary depending on diet and time of day.
 
Good thread, K to u. I usually do 2 scoops and fill my shaker all the way to the top, probably not enough water but i still feel the effects from it. My muscles feel very full and i have my whey shake when i get home from the gym ~15 min later.
 
WMS is the shit bro. I love it. My diet is pretty low on carbs. I look forward to my WMS pre and post workout shakes. My muscles get absolutly engorged from this stuff. It is a good feeling.
 
I've been using the WMS immediately post workout with some creatine monohydrate in it, do you think adding BCAAs will be much more beneficial to add in? I haven't seen any results from it yet, no muscle pumps or anything after drinking it, just a semi-feeling of light headedness about 15 minutes later when I get home.
 
I dont get pumps or anything either i just feel really full and look alot more full to for a while after i work out. This must be a miracle for BBers before a show. If you want pumps try assault. you can get 30% off with the code in my sig.
 
I've been using an empty 32 ounce gatorade bottle (.94 liters).

As soon as i finish my drink PWO i mix a new one and put it in the fridge for the next workout. When next workout comes around i grab from fridge and take it with me to the gym but leave it in the car. That way, when i come out of the gym its at a perfect temperature to drink. Not too cold to chug, but still cool and refreshing. When i get home i mix another, store in fridge, and the process continues.
 
I just ordered WMS and the BCAA from JAM....I am going to go broke with all these damn supps!!!!!.....:faint:
 
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