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Lets talk legal steroids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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needtogetaas

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Yes real deal legal steroids. not fake steroids, not pro hormones
but real fucking legal aas. Yes people there are some out there.

Fuck the product names fuck the gimmicks lets talk about the legal compounds,the legal steroid compounds that are out there and where to get them. How good they are and how to use them.

Again this is not a legal steroid.
D-anabol 25 * [Metandesenolone] - $85.00 : Buy Steroids - Your Online Steroid Shop that is a pile of shit sold by a scammer. Its just like if ou went to buy e-legal steroids and the guy sold you oil. Yup that about what that amounts
to. There are many many companies out there that do this though and they make a bad name for the places that really are selling legal
true blue steroid compounds.

NorAndrostene-3b-ol, 17-one
Estra-4,9 diene-3 17 dione
17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol
2a, 17a, Dimethyl-Etiocholan-3-one, 17b-ol

whats in the products guys. What are the active ingredents. For any of you to understand if its a real steroid or not you need to research whats in the products. If a company wont tell you whats in it then its fake if you ask me.

Lets talk more about this.
 
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needtogetaas said:
Yes real deal legal steroids. not fake steroids, not pro hormones
but real fucking legal aas. Yes people there are some out there.

Fuck the product names fuck the gimmicks lets talk about the legal compounds,the legal steroid compounds that are out there and where to get them. How good they are and how to use them.

Again this is not a legal steroid.
D-anabol 25 * [Metandesenolone] - $85.00 : Buy Steroids - Your Online Steroid Shop that is a pile of shit sold by a scammer. Its just like if ou went to buy e-legal steroids and the guy sold you oil. Yup that about what that amounts
to. There are many many companies out there that do this though and they make a bad name for the places that really are selling legal
true blue steroid compounds.

NorAndrostene-3b-ol, 17-one
Estra-4,9 diene-3 17 dione
17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol
2a, 17a, Dimethyl-Etiocholan-3-one, 17b-ol

whats in the products guys. What are the active ingredents. For any of you to understand if its a real steroid or not you need to research whats in the products. If a company wont tell you whats in it then its fake if you ask me.

Lets talk more about this.
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I agree that if a product does not tell you on the bottle what the active ingredient is, it isn't worthy of even looking into.

If you get a product that has a chemical name that looks similar to one of these posted, it is probably legit. always check or ask someone.


When you see "Etiochalan", it is another way to say "5-androstan"




The products that have been given solid positive reviews and I can guarantee will bring results are:

RPN Havoc(or equal compound)-2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol

Superdrol 'n clones(Monsterdrol, M-drol, and many others)2a, 17a, Dimethyl-Etiocholan-3-one, 17b-ol (this product is exactly Masteron, but methylated to be orally active. However, it doesn't exactly behvave like masteron. D-bol is chemically equal to EQ with the addition of alkylation to make it orally active, but we know that dbol and EQ behave quite differently.

Cyclotren(and equal compounds) Estra-4,9 diene-3 17 dione

Halodrol50/H-drol(equal compound) - 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol

Phera-plex and clones(p-plex etc.)-17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol

there are some others, but these are the best. P-plex and superdrol clones are the most pronounced in their effects. Definitely the strongest 2 available.
 
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Good shit bro I like you a lot around here. You got some good info and our a great help to members
in the sups forum.
 
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well..cyclotren is no longer legal...kinda...



You can still get it from guys like JAM, but once its gone..its gone. (i'm stocked up tho :) )
 
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Im trying to get my hands on another batch but they cant manufacture it anymore Infinite labs has quit making it a while back.
 
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how much do you have left?

I've still got a few bottles in my cabinet at home. :)
 
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miplank said:
how much do you have left?

I've still got a few bottles in my cabinet at home. :)
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Only around 100 bottles but I am trying to get 100-200 more.:biggrin:
 
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This legal steroids subject ha really got me thinking and researching. Lets face it some people
want to be legal and can't take an risks. This gets them real steroids that are legal. I am willing to bet
the party is going to get broken up sooner or later but for now its good shit.

Pm me for cycle advice on these kill sups guys. How to use them,what to take with them,and shit like that.
 
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needtogetaas said:
This legal steroids subject ha really got me thinking and researching. Lets face it some people
want to be legal and can't take an risks. This gets them real steroids that are legal. I am willing to bet
the party is going to get broken up sooner or later but for now its good shit.

Pm me for cycle advice on these kill sups guys. How to use them,what to take with them,and shit like that.
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If you care to share:)..... What would be your full list of support supps for a Heavy methyl(SD, P-Plex, etc) and a non-methyl(Derma, Cyclo, etc) stack for a 6 week run? I think a lot of guys are running these things and not thinking twice about support supps. They wonder why they feel like shit the whole time and their lipids and blood pressure take a shit.
 
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I am very excited to see whats going to happen with this new one that just came out called Starchem Labs Icon.Also Infinite labs Cycobolan is going to be off the chain I think.
 
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JAM has got some killer products...they might be legal but they're still HARDCORE :evil:
 
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So much of that stuff only works in the short term.
 
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TheBrand said:
So much of that stuff only works in the short term.
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First off welcome to ef bro. Here is a free plat.
The user 'TheBrand' has been gifted a platinum membership!

Now I see this is your first post thats cool. Have you been a part of other sites like this? what brings you to ef? and about what you just said. How so and could you expand on this in depth for us.

We love debate and the spread of knowledge here on ef. So again welcome and please jump right in.
 
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TheBrand said:
So much of that stuff only works in the short term.
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a steroid is a steroid, just b/c it is taken orally and isn't YET put a band list doesn't mean it isn't any less potent.

i can speak from experience that products like "cyclotren" are the real deal. i don't care what anybody who hasn't tried it says.
 
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TheBrand said:
So much of that stuff only works in the short term.
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Nope, you get to keep the gains. Just like any steroid it depends on your PCT and diet.
 
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Guys. A question that I seem to be getting asked a lot lately. Will these products like mosterdrol
superdrol,cyclotren,1ad an others make me fail a drug test (for steroids).


Yes guys I am sorry to say these are real steroids and they will show up on a drug test for steroids.
so yes the brand names of the products may be legal and you want go to jail for buying and having them.
You still can't use then if you get drug tested (for steroids).
 
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which just gos to show. Yes these are real fucking steroids.
 
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needtogetaas said:
Guys. A question that I seem to be getting asked a lot lately. Will these products like mosterdrol
superdrol,cyclotren,1ad an others make me fail a drug test (for steroids).


Yes guys I am sorry to say these are real steroids and they will show up on a drug test for steroids.
so yes the brand names of the products may be legal and you want go to jail for buying and having them.
You still can't use then if you get drug tested (for steroids).
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but will still not show up on a regular piss test correct?
 
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mwm5 said:
but will still not show up on a regular piss test correct?
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They must be actively looking for them, which in the majority of cases they will not. It's not cheap.
 
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Omegasox said:
They must be actively looking for them, which in the majority of cases they will not. It's not cheap.
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correct, just throwing it out there to guys that most jobs do a 5,8,or 10 panel piss test and i'm pretty sure nothing will show up even on the 10 panel.
 
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mwm5 said:
correct, just throwing it out there to guys that most jobs do a 5,8,or 10 panel piss test and i'm pretty sure nothing will show up even on the 10 panel.
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piss tests for employment aren't going to be looking for any sort of AAS. They are looking for Rec-drugs.

The only time i'd be worried is if I was a competitor in some sporting/athletic event were they tested.
 
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mwm5 said:
correct, just throwing it out there to guys that most jobs do a 5,8,or 10 panel piss test and i'm pretty sure nothing will show up even on the 10 panel.
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Yes unless they are looking for steroids then it will not show on any reg drug test.

I have just had a few people who know they will be tested for steroids ask me if they will show up on a steroid test. Yes they will.
 
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needtogetaas said:
Yes unless they are looking for steroids then it will not show on any reg drug test.

I have just had a few people who know they will be tested for steroids ask me if they will show up on a steroid test. Yes they will.
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hey..are you going to update your thread on the monsterdrol? pretty please:qt:
 
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Can I shoot hydrocortizone directly into my o-ring?
 
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miplank said:
only one way to find out :biggrin:
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Good point.

I've used halodrol before and it's definitely effective. I held quite a bit of water and started feeling a little itchy in the nips.
 
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jnevin said:
Good point.

I've used halodrol before and it's definitely effective. I held quite a bit of water and started feeling a little itchy in the nips.
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cyclotren is making my right nip ichy
 
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miplank said:
really? what kind of dosage are you taking?
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two with breakfast and two before working out. i've gained some serious mass too and kept my "lean-ness"
 
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mwm5 said:
two with breakfast and two before working out. i've gained some serious mass too and kept my "lean-ness"
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ahh..i'm only taking 3 caps per day.
 
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mwm5 said:
cyclotren is making my right nip ichy
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Your progestin levels are high.

@ 140 mg daily, you are gonna notice some sides with cyclotren. The product label warns you about going over 3 caps and need to have the proper drugs to control the sides.
 
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it isn't always itchy, just ever once and a while i'll get a little tingle. i'm close to being done with it now so i'll ride it out until i start pct.
 
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mwm5 said:
it isn't always itchy, just ever once and a while i'll get a little tingle. i'm close to being done with it now so i'll ride it out until i start pct.
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you're probably fine. At 3/day I had 0 sides.
 
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mwm5 said:
cyclotren is making my right nip ichy
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Ive heard quite a few people get that issue bro.Im thinking since it is a progestin then it could be a progestin issue.
 
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I am interested in a steroid alternative to take throughout the winter. I just came off a 10 week tren cycle and am currently in week one of my PCT. What can you guys recommend to take for lean growth from October to March. I have some Tren and will get some test for next summer. What PCT will be required with your suggestions? What sides should I expect? I am 36 been lifting since 18, have done quite a few cycles in my day, 5'10 200lbs and an pretty damn lean after the tren. I would like to stay around this weight if not gain a few more lbs and also stay as lean as possible. This board has been a wealth of knowledge and I thank you all greatly!!
 
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I ended up taking 4 cyclotren a day and didn't have any sides at all. 4 havoc, 4 cyclotren with an enormous diet, damn thats when it kicked in :PP I weigh over 200 pounds now, and am stoked!
 
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Just Add Muscle said:
Ive heard quite a few people get that issue bro.Im thinking since it is a progestin then it could be a progestin issue.
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JAM, it's "prolactin" and some folks who have used Phera-Plex also experiance this. I have read that a product called: PowerFull by USPLabs will take care of that "pins and needles" feeling in the nipple.


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GDF said:
I am interested in a steroid alternative to take throughout the winter. I just came off a 10 week tren cycle and am currently in week one of my PCT. What can you guys recommend to take for lean growth from October to March. I have some Tren and will get some test for next summer. What PCT will be required with your suggestions? What sides should I expect? I am 36 been lifting since 18, have done quite a few cycles in my day, 5'10 200lbs and an pretty damn lean after the tren. I would like to stay around this weight if not gain a few more lbs and also stay as lean as possible. This board has been a wealth of knowledge and I thank you all greatly!!
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These products should be a considered a cycle, and not an off-cycle alternative.

So, this will be your cycle between cycles, lol.

Since you seem to be pretty experienced, I would go with monsterdrol or phera=plex. thay are the strongest 2.

Stack cyclotren with monsterdrol and you are gonna get some sick results.
 
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dabuffguy said:
These products should be a considered a cycle, and not an off-cycle alternative.

So, this will be your cycle between cycles, lol.

Since you seem to be pretty experienced, I would go with monsterdrol or phera=plex. thay are the strongest 2.

Stack cyclotren with monsterdrol and you are gonna get some sick results.
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If some one wanted something to take as a bridge but was really ligth no the body. I would go with dermacrine. I used to do this before I said fuck it and stayed on. I do not believe in bridging.You are ether on or off aas, but not aas and its the safest bridge there is. Not only that it works and you ether lose nothing,gain some,or lose very very little well using it as a bridge.

Btw guys I got discount codes on all these dame products. If you are thinking about ordering just come and ask me. I will give you a little push :evil:
 
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needtogetaas said:
If some one wanted something to take as a bridge but was really ligth no the body. I would go with dermacrine. I used to do this before I said fuck it and stayed on. I do not believe in bridging.You are ether on or off aas, but not aas and its the safest bridge there is. Not only that it works and you ether lose nothing,gain some,or lose very very little well using it as a bridge.

Btw guys I got discount codes on all these dame products. If you are thinking about ordering just come and ask me. I will give you a little push :evil:
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I didn't get the impression he was "bridging" at all. Rather, he wants to run another (legal) cycle starting in october (after his current PCT) like he said, until his next injectable cycle for next summer. This wouldn't be a bridge, but a legal cycle before his next tren/test injectable coming next spring or whenever. I too think bridging is a lame concept. Always thought that. See my posts in the Ross threads and bridging. not an advocate at all.





To GDF, bro you cannot stay on these products from October until march. The methylated componds are a max 6 weeks, and non methyls max 8 weeks just like any illegal oral aas.

For a great legal stack, cyclotren 3/day and monsterdrol 3/day for 6 weeks will do you right. Might as well run test prop @ 100mg EOD with it, and leave out on the cyclotren though. But, if you don't want to use illegals, then this is the way to go. Hurry up on the cyclo-tren though, because next month it is going to be really hard to find.

As for PCT, I suggest what you would do normally on illegal aas.
 
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O I know bro. The fact that he wanted to stay on them so long got me thinking though.
 
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If any one wants to get a discount on products like this send me a pm. As always I got the hook up
for it. Also I can help walk you threw it as well.
 
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some one add some tags to this thread. I will admit I don't know how.
 
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dabuffguy said:
I didn't get the impression he was "bridging" at all. Rather, he wants to run another (legal) cycle starting in october (after his current PCT) like he said, until his next injectable cycle for next summer. This wouldn't be a bridge, but a legal cycle before his next tren/test injectable coming next spring or whenever. I too think bridging is a lame concept. Always thought that. See my posts in the Ross threads and bridging. not an advocate at all.





To GDF, bro you cannot stay on these products from October until march. The methylated componds are a max 6 weeks, and non methyls max 8 weeks just like any illegal oral aas.

For a great legal stack, cyclotren 3/day and monsterdrol 3/day for 6 weeks will do you right. Might as well run test prop @ 100mg EOD with it, and leave out on the cyclotren though. But, if you don't want to use illegals, then this is the way to go. Hurry up on the cyclo-tren though, because next month it is going to be really hard to find.

As for PCT, I suggest what you would do normally on illegal aas.
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DBG,

You are exactly right. I was not trying to bridge rather just have a legal cycle through the winter. My wife isn't to cool with me doing the illegals so this is a great alternative. I also was planning to do 6 week cycles of these. Needto helped me out with the program. Good lookin' out bro, I appreciate it!!
 
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GDF said:
DBG,

You are exactly right. I was not trying to bridge rather just have a legal cycle through the winter. My wife isn't to cool with me doing the illegals so this is a great alternative. I also was planning to do 6 week cycles of these. Needto helped me out with the program. Good lookin' out bro, I appreciate it!!
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Any time bro You tell us how it went, and when its over you tell others to go ahead and look me up. I will help them out to. Its my job bratha:biggrin: Always here for you guys in every way.
 
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dabuffguy said:
I agree that if a product does not tell you on the bottle what the active ingredient is, it isn't worthy of even looking into.

If you get a product that has a chemical name that looks similar to one of these posted, it is probably legit. always check or ask someone.


When you see "Etiochalan", it is another way to say "5-androstan"




The products that have been given solid positive reviews and I can guarantee will bring results are:

RPN Havoc(or equal compound)-2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol

Superdrol 'n clones(Monsterdrol, M-drol, and many others)2a, 17a, Dimethyl-Etiocholan-3-one, 17b-ol (this product is exactly Masteron, but methylated to be orally active. However, it doesn't exactly behvave like masteron. D-bol is chemically equal to EQ with the addition of alkylation to make it orally active, but we know that dbol and EQ behave quite differently.

Cyclotren(and equal compounds) Estra-4,9 diene-3 17 dione

Halodrol50/H-drol(equal compound) - 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol

Phera-plex and clones(p-plex etc.)-17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol

there are some others, but these are the best. P-plex and superdrol clones are the most pronounced in their effects. Definitely the strongest 2 available.
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Dumb question...which regular AAS does each prohormone attempt to mimic? I get that Cyclotren is sort of like trenbolone, Monsterdrol/Superdrol are kinda like Masteron, but what about the others like Havoc, Pheravol, etc?
 
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superclock said:
Dumb question...which regular AAS does each prohormone attempt to mimic? I get that Cyclotren is sort of like trenbolone, Monsterdrol/Superdrol are kinda like Masteron, but what about the others like Havoc, Pheravol, etc?
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They do not attempt bro. They are the real thing just in oral form.
 
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needtogetaas said:
They do not attempt bro. They are the real thing just in oral form.
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I ask only because I know nothing about AAS. It would be interesting for me to be able to research the AAS equivalents. I've checked out Trenbolone and Masteron and the information is very helpful. What are the equivalents of Havoc and Pheravol?
 
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superclock said:
I ask only because I know nothing about AAS. It would be interesting for me to be able to research the AAS equivalents. I've checked out Trenbolone and Masteron and the information is very helpful. What are the equivalents of Havoc and Pheravol?
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Decoding steroids and prohormones…(how to read the long chemical names)




Generally, what we know about a steroid, or at least part of that, is “coded” in its name [the part written like this at the start of my profiles for steroid.com]. If you look in the name of a steroid, and it’s something like this:


2-oxy androstane 17b-ol 2-one

(the chemical name for Anavar)


See the bold part? That means it’s a DHT-derivative, with regards to its base carbon structure. Androstane denotes being derived from DHT.


If it said:


Norandrostene 17b-ol 3-one

(Nandrolone)


Then you know the norandrostene part means it’s derived from Nandrolone (likewise, generally, if you see 19-nor or something like that)

And finally, if you see the words testosterone—duh—or androstene (note that this is “stene” and not “stane”) in the name of the structure, then you know it’s derived from testosterone.



Testosterone, Dihydrotestosterone, and 19-nor Testosterone are what I call the 3 families of anabolic steroids. That term isn’t in any medical textbook, and I pretty much made it up, but it’s now an accepted term on most message boards - and it’s accurate enough for our purposes.




Now, for an example of how this might also be written, we’ll take a steroid like Boldenone (Eq) again and we can figure out a few things about it.


Look at the name:


BOLDENONE
-or-
(17b-ol 1, 4-androstadiene-3-one,)

-or-
Equipoise


And what we see is that it starts with “BOL” and the chemical name begins with 17b-ol, hence, “BOL.”


See what I’m talking about?


17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene-3-one


Next we see “DEN” (because the word is Bol-Den-One if you break it apart). Looking in the middle of Boldenone’s chemical name we find something similar:


17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene, 3-one


And finally we have “ONE” at the end of Boldenone, and clearly, the chemical name also has “One” at the very end:


17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene-3-one


So, what does all of this tell us? Well, since it starts with 17b-ol we know that its got something going on at the 17beta position, which is an “ol” and is a Hydroxy (oxygen and hydrogen) group. This is where our esterification (added ester) at the 17-beta-position goes. Now, we also have the middle part, androstadiene, which indicates that this steroid has a double carbon bond on the base of a testosterone’s steran nucleus or a di-bond on androstene. In this particular case, the double carbon bond at this position slows aromatization. Eq, as we know, aromatizes to a far lesser degree than testosterone because of this modification. Remember from the beginning of my explanation on all of this that androstene indicates testosterone as a base structure.

Add it all up and we have Boldenone. This is called Equipoise and its name comes from the Latin root of the word Equine, and as you already know, Equipoise (Eq) was developed to give to horses.


Now, if we look at Eq (boldenone) and compare it to Dianabol, (methandrostenolone), we can see how similar they are.

Equipoise:

(17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene-3-one )

And now Dianabol (similarities in italics, difference noted in black/bold):

(17a-methyl-17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene-3-one )


As you can see, the only difference between Dianabol and Eq is the 17a-Methyl group, which is why Dianabol is called a Methylated steroid; it has been 17-alpha-alkylated to survive oral ingestion.



And this, should tell us a few things. When you compare the minor difference in names with the major differences in effects concerning Dianabol vs. Eq) we discover that names aren’t everything…but they give us a good starting point to figure out what something does, or at least what it’s derived from.
 
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Wow. Thank you very, very much for taking the time to break that down for me. I'm going to need to go through it a few more times to soak up the info, but that is exactly the type of simplified information for which I have been searching. Thanks again. You rock.
 
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superclock said:
Wow. Thank you very, very much for taking the time to break that down for me. I'm going to need to go through it a few more times to soak up the info, but that is exactly the type of simplified information for which I have been searching. Thanks again. You rock.
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Mah. Thank Anthony roborts bro. He broke it down for me. I just learned and passed it along.:biggrin:
 
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This has been the best thread I have read yet. Man I just learned a lot.

Thanks man
 
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superclock said:
Dumb question...which regular AAS does each prohormone attempt to mimic? I get that Cyclotren is sort of like trenbolone, Monsterdrol/Superdrol are kinda like Masteron, but what about the others like Havoc, Pheravol, etc?
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cyclotren is similar to trenbolone in structure.

Havoc is not really similar to any others. It's it's own thing, and so is phera plex.

Superdrol is methylated masteron exactly.
 
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Good stuff here.
 
3 weeks into monsterdrol. Yup Its bad ass shit. If it was not a oral I would stay on it for a wile but I have to come off in a week. Ill give it a few weeks of and go back on again.
 
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needtogetaas said:
3 weeks into monsterdrol. Yup Its bad ass shit. If it was not a oral I would stay on it for a wile but I have to come off in a week. Ill give it a few weeks of and go back on again.
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:evil::evil::evil:
 
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Legal but powerful. If I could stay on the legal stuff year round I would. Good thing I got a script for test so I don't have to worry though.
 
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I want a script for test :(
 
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miplank said:
I want a script for test :(
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Go to your doctor and get blood work after your done with the monsterdrol and cyclotren before you do PCT.;)
 
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lol....sounds like a plan.
 
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Just Add Muscle said:
Go to your doctor and get blood work after your done with the monsterdrol and cyclotren before you do PCT.;)
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lol...what do I tell him?..."hey doc..i think my test is low, can i have a script?"
 
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miplank said:
lol...what do I tell him?..."hey doc..i think my test is low, can i have a script?"
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Tell him that you have not been feeling well, been down and low on energy and dont have any sex drive. If he can do some blood work on you.:D
 
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Just Add Muscle said:
Tell him that you have not been feeling well, been down and low on energy and dont have any sex drive. If he can do some blood work on you.:D
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might have to try that...just see my regular family doc? I've got another cycle coming up just gotta finish my "time off" from the last one.

I'd be interested to see what they would say seeing how i'm only 26yr old;)
 
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miplank said:
might have to try that...just see my regular family doc? I've got another cycle coming up just gotta finish my "time off" from the last one.

I'd be interested to see what they would say seeing how i'm only 26yr old;)
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I have a better chance then you being I got 23 years on you. I think due to your age and new found size....he might think somethings up.
 
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DasWolf said:
I have a better chance then you being I got 23 years on you. I think due to your age and new found size....he might think somethings up.
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that's pretty much what I was thinking. I'm a pretty big guy, always have been, but since i've really been focusing on my training I've put on quite a bit of muscle and am now starting to get "cut". So i also figured the dr. would think something was up. Probably would schedule me for follow up blood tests so he could get one when my levels were back to norm.
 
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miplank said:
that's pretty much what I was thinking. I'm a pretty big guy, always have been, but since i've really been focusing on my training I've put on quite a bit of muscle and am now starting to get "cut". So i also figured the dr. would think something was up. Probably would schedule me for follow up blood tests so he could get one when my levels were back to norm.
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Tell him if he dosent give you the damn script you will smash his head in. :D
 
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Just Add Muscle said:
Tell him if he dosent give you the damn script you will smash his head in. :D
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LMFAO...Tell him..."i'm gonna get it one way or another...so you might as well make some money by having me come in for bloodwork"

stupid docs and their ethics..pfft:p
 
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Hey Needtogetaas, i sent you a PM about some info on this thread!
 
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Wow I never though I would post on elite fitness :P

I've decided I'm going to take the plunge,and try out these legal steroids.

But I need a push in the right direction,can anyone suggest some good legal steroids for a beginner.
 
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RonnieColeman38 said:
Wow I never though I would post on elite fitness :P

I've decided I'm going to take the plunge,and try out these legal steroids.

But I need a push in the right direction,can anyone suggest some good legal steroids for a beginner.
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How long have you been bodybuilding bro?

Have you had any experience at all with aas?

Do you understand the principles of PCT?
 
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RonnieColeman38 said:
Wow I never though I would post on elite fitness :P

I've decided I'm going to take the plunge,and try out these legal steroids.

But I need a push in the right direction,can anyone suggest some good legal steroids for a beginner.
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Do you mean a beginner lifter, or a beginner using hormones?

What's your stats, like height, weight, BF%, training experience, training schedule, diet.
 
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RonnieColeman38 said:
Wow I never though I would post on elite fitness :P

I've decided I'm going to take the plunge,and try out these legal steroids.

But I need a push in the right direction,can anyone suggest some good legal steroids for a beginner.
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as everyone else has said...We need some stats bro.

Just because they are "legal" doesn't mean they should be taken lightly. Post up your stats and everyone will be more than willing to steer you in the right direction.
 
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would you use the dermacrine as pct,or do you mean using it after pct up till next cycle of test or whatever,.
 
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I would use durmacrin on the cycle. It adds a lot to it. The use sustain alpha for pct. I got big discounts on these products to. Derma had dhea and when used topical its pretty powerful shit. So its not good for pct.
 
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if these are simliar to the injectable illegals,as in superdrol to masteron,,are they more toxic cos they are oral ,like dianabol?
 
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skaman007 said:
if these are simliar to the injectable illegals,as in superdrol to masteron,,are they more toxic cos they are oral ,like dianabol?
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Yes they are. Please use a liver sup well taking them.
 
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so being more toxic ,are thay to be done in 6week cycles or less?do you think these products will eventually take over from the injectables?
 
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skaman007 said:
so being more toxic ,are thay to be done in 6week cycles or less?do you think these products will eventually take over from the injectables?
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Yes 6 weeks or less and no people will always want other things to use.
 
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I would only run Monsterdrol/superdrol for 4 weeks.
 
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hi, I need some advice from you pro-h experts.
I have a bunc of AAS cycles under my belt. Now, it's been about 3 years since last cycle. Right now I'm looking for something with the similar effect as Equipose / Anavar. Small massgains but with reduction of waterweight. I responded to Tren like nothuing else, but it also fucked me up for life so I wont take anything like it again( my digestion ). So please, what would you recommend?
 
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MrRTTB said:
hi, I need some advice from you pro-h experts.
I have a bunc of AAS cycles under my belt. Now, it's been about 3 years since last cycle. Right now I'm looking for something with the similar effect as Equipose / Anavar. Small massgains but with reduction of waterweight. I responded to Tren like nothuing else, but it also fucked me up for life so I wont take anything like it again( my digestion ). So please, what would you recommend?
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If Jam still has monsterdrol left I would get some of that bro. You can pm me for a discount.
 
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MrRTTB said:
hi, I need some advice from you pro-h experts.
I have a bunc of AAS cycles under my belt. Now, it's been about 3 years since last cycle. Right now I'm looking for something with the similar effect as Equipose / Anavar. Small massgains but with reduction of waterweight. I responded to Tren like nothuing else, but it also fucked me up for life so I wont take anything like it again( my digestion ). So please, what would you recommend?
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Either monsterdrol or cyclobolan stacked with ICON would be KILLER!!!

Can't vouch for ICON, but I can vouch for monsterdrol, and it is badass.
 
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I am one week into Cyclobolan today. No sides to report. I am having killer workouts and I am up 4 pounds. I expect good gains off of a four week run.
 
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I'm trying to get a discount code to order some Cyclobolan.
 
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damn I never saw this thread until now.....Ok I am going to go back and read all the pages up to this...Hypothetical ? kids....If in the 70s Mr columbo and our dear governor (arnold for you "other guys" :D ) Would they have chosen D bol and A bombs for their orals? If I remember arnold was mostly just D bol and test?

PS Anyone break down the chemicals in Icon yet? 11 oxo? am I missing this?
 
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That was an honest question! Whatcha think?
 
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rediculus said:
damn I never saw this thread until now.....Ok I am going to go back and read all the pages up to this...Hypothetical ? kids....If in the 70s Mr columbo and our dear governor (arnold for you "other guys" :D ) Would they have chosen D bol and A bombs for their orals? If I remember arnold was mostly just D bol and test?

PS Anyone break down the chemicals in Icon yet? 11 oxo? am I missing this?
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If superdrol/monsterdrol was around when arnold was in the game. He would be taking it. He was a dbol and primo man not dbol and test. In fact back then not many people were using test all the time.
 
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REAALLLLY?? I would think test would be all about mass..How much did you end up putting on from the Monsterdrol? I assume it would be a little less as your well seemingly almost constantly on cycle lol. but your far from your first cycle so I would expect you didn't get a ton from it?

PS I am taking my "before pictures" now as I am getting on the dermatherm and already have some opinions of that. which I hate how fat camera's make me look but whatever. Short of roshambo'ing a doctor until I get an HGH prescription It's a long path to loose BF for me. You have to be a plat to post up before afters and journals right?
 
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Monsterdrol is da shit. I'm on it now. Hit a new PR on bench 415 lbs
 
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