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Dieselbolan v2.0 or beastdrol first time advice!

Optimizedd

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I need your guys help EliteFitness members!!! Im looking to start taking some Dieselbolan or beastdrol but im undecided which one to start.

Im 6 foot, 165 pounds, I have been working out for about year n some now doing cardio in morning with heavy lifting at night.

My goal is to gain about 15 plus pounds and get a lot stronger!, Ive read about both dieselbolan and beastdrol packing on about 15 plus pounds.

My question to you guys is whats the best one in your opinion for me to take and what other supps should i be taking with them. (If you guys could give me some advice on everything i should buy for my first cycle that would be great!!)

THanks everyone and looking forward to making a log during the first cycle!
 
There are some great threads on here about both. Use the search function bro. Great tool.
For a time time user. I wouldnt suggest either of those two. Epistane or Halovar being the better choices. (Havoc or Helladrol respectively).
 
^^^^^^^^^^^ okay you didnt answer my question 1 and two i have searched all over and im asking becuase im not like everyone else on this forum. Thanks for ur input
 
What do you mean your not like everybody else on this forum. I understand everyone is different, but sometimes there are standards that need to be met bro, and at 6 foot, 165lbs, you havent quite reached that solid base yet.

Drop your cardio, learn to eat, and train harder than ever. You'll gain natty.
Whats your age by the way?
 
Im assuming you took a few years off from high school then, huh?
Earlier you said youre going off to college next year.
 
I played juco for 2 years got hurt transfered to state college this year and getting in shape for next years fall, im tryin to bulk up now so by time comes im in tip top shape


For ur question why im different i do alot more cardio in here than most people do in a week, then go back to do night lifting. A lot of people in here just lift to get big i lift to get fit and now try to get big and super fit (Run 7 miles then bike 10 miles followed by swimming in pool everyday)
 
So what im saying is, since your in off season anyways, drop your cardio, not completely, just much less than you are doing now. Half it.
That much cardio turns you extremely catabolic. Your body is burning muscle to fuel itself. You cant gain if your eating yourself away.
And all the top shape member on here do cardio, 3-4 times a week. Sure, most of them not as much as you, but do you see the difference? Theyre huge, your not. Sorry to be so blunt, I dont mean to be a dick, but Im a blunt guy. And to be completely honest, your comment on my first reply set me off a little.
My suggestion was to use a more mild compound first. Both the ones you want to use are harsh and arent generally accepted as 'first time' products.

Post up a general diet. General lifting regimen. Ill help you get on the right track. I am also very willing to help you out with a stack, as long as its not overboard.
 
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