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Going to jail on Tues....

Sucks, I know

1 mistake, if you would like pm. Just did 6 months on a second charge for steroids...since I was also on probation(for steroids , on my first charge) they automatically violated me this last friday, for the new charge that I just did time on. Revocation guidelines were 12-18 months ,I walked away with 6 months house arrest. I know the system(federal) way too well. There may be options for you to an alternative sentencing. If I knew more details I may be able to give you some "jailhouse" legal advice. PM me if you wish. Good Luck! BTW the feds is the cadillac of all jails. You never want to go into state jail! You have the best of the two evils

oh yea and Enigmaxxx7 we mutilate pussy's like yourself ALL of the time!
 
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FreedomFighter said:

oh yea and Enigmaxxx7 we mutilate pussy's like yourself ALL of the time!
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:rolleyes:


Look, sometimes when you break the law, you have to go to jail. That's just the way it fuckin works. Jail is not supposed to be a country club where WE pay for every asshole's room and board. 3 - 5 years means you should probably be changing your name from 1mistake to AfewMistakes. If it was something "minimal" like AS (which I doubt), then sorry bro. Your asshole doesn't deserve to be reamed for such petty offenses. However, for criminals that murder, rape, steal and abuse children, I hope Bubba is your roommate. JMO.
 
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Look, sometimes when you break the law, you have to go to jail. That's just the way it fuckin works. Jail is not supposed to be a country club where WE pay for every asshole's room and board. 3 - 5 years means you should probably be changing your name from 1mistake to AfewMistakes. If it was something "minimal" like AS (which I doubt), then sorry bro. Your asshole doesn't deserve to be reamed for such petty offenses. However, for criminals that murder, rape, steal and abuse children, I hope Bubba is your roommate. JMO.
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I guess you don't know much of today's US Drug Laws do you bro? 3-5 could be for a MINIMAL amount. I seriously DOUBT that he'd post he's going to Jail, if he thought it would bring a reaction like your own, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it probably is for something non-violent, and what we here would(also more than likely)consider as minimal.
 
haha. yeah shouldn't have posted that. but its the posters fault for not elaborating. so if he has a good excuse (according to us) for going to jail....we bitch at enigmax. if he raped a 12 year old girl, then we applaud the post of the big O. hows that? :)
 
Enigmaxxx7 said:
o <--------Your asshole before jail


0 <-------Your asshole after jail

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Not funny shithead, 1mistake is a good bro.


BTW, it is for ecstacy, which I do not nor have ever used, but do not believe it should be a criminal offense either.
 
what i find the funniest is that i (and hundreds of others) ask legit anabolic questions....and everyone flocks to this fucking thread of someone going to jail and the possibility of him getting fucked up the ass. un-fucking-believeable. i am at a loss for words here. i mean, i post on stupid posts too....but i also make sure to answer the legit questions when i am educated on the subject.
 
Frackal said:


Not funny shithead, 1mistake is a good bro.


BTW, it is for ecstacy, which I do not nor have ever used, but do not believe it should be a criminal offense either.
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If it is for ecstacy, as you say, then 3 - 5 is a bit harsh. If that is indeed the case, then please consider my BIG O as it is now called (LOL) as a "warning". Watch your back brother.
 
On house arrest right now...no anklet, my PO comes to the house 2-3 times a week to make sure I am at home. I have to give her a weekly schedule every Tuesday. It really sucks. Up for early termination on January 16, wish me luck. Made the best of it by getting adjustable dumbells, a curl bar, a flat/incline/decline bench and a heavy bag and a speed/strikig bag. FreedomFighter, do you have any other good suggestions on excersizes to do at home. It is a bitch working out at home alone, but you got to get into the zone and push yourself.
 
MiamiStyle245 said:
On house arrest right now...no anklet, my PO comes to the house 2-3 times a week to make sure I am at home. I have to give her a weekly schedule every Tuesday. It really sucks. Up for early termination on January 16, wish me luck. Made the best of it by getting adjustable dumbells, a curl bar, a flat/incline/decline bench and a heavy bag and a speed/strikig bag. FreedomFighter, do you have any other good suggestions on excersizes to do at home. It is a bitch working out at home alone, but you got to get into the zone and push yourself.
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yeah i worked with a guy at walmart once way back who was on house arrest. but they let him go to work overnight. he had to be here or there.....or else. he said they could track his ass everywhere he went....not sure on that. may have made that up.
 
emigmaxxx- go fuck your self bro. You obviously don't know the drug laws. It's called a conspiracy. Almost all federal drug charges are made out to on a conspiracy charge, very hard to beat, it just means you knew what was going on and could have had the littleist involvement in it and they will connect you to the main drug sale even if it wasn't you selling shit.. In Ny state we have the rockafellar drug laws at the state level which in most cases equal the penalties for murder. If you sell an undercover 2 ounces of cocaine you get the same sentance for MURDER and more of a sentance than you would for raping someone. Its a mandatory 15 years in jail for selling 2 ounces of cocaine or get caught with 4 ounces or more in your possesion.
What sucks about this ectacy thing is the media is controlling the penalties. Since the MEDIA says its bad then the goverment reacts and fucks some people real bad that desearve a second chance. And don't let it fool you you don't have to sell thousands of pills to end up in prison for over 10 years. If the media wanted to they could increase the penaltys for juice significantly if we don't watch our asses. You think steroids and other rec. drugs aren't connected, open your eyes, cause thats the way the public views it. I don't think so but by talking to others who don't use juice they think its the same thing.
What i'm just trying to rally say is you can get fucked over royally for what we think is a minimal offense..Trust me I know all too well.....
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
Just to let you guys know this past may or march they changed the penaltys for x. One pill use to be like getting caught with 33 gram of pot. Now under the new law which is the norm for every state 1 pill is equal to 500 grams, a little over 1 pound of pot. 1 pill = to a pound of pot doesn't sound right to me. i just don't understand our system.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
shitty

just chill and dont misbehave and you'll be out early on parole in no time with a short sentence like that

my friend was sentenced to 3 years for robbery (and other shit) and he served like 6 months in jail, then was transfered to some knd of camp type place where it wasnt even that bad.. he served about 1 and a half years total and is out on parole now
 
Mad Max said:
emigmaxxx- go fuck your self bro. You obviously don't know the drug laws. It's called a conspiracy. Almost all federal drug charges are made out to on a conspiracy charge, very hard to beat, it just means you knew what was going on and could have had the littleist involvement in it and they will connect you to the main drug sale even if it wasn't you selling shit.. In Ny state we have the rockafellar drug laws at the state level which in most cases equal the penalties for murder. If you sell an undercover 2 ounces of cocaine you get the same sentance for MURDER and more of a sentance than you would for raping someone. Its a mandatory 15 years in jail for selling 2 ounces of cocaine or get caught with 4 ounces or more in your possesion.
What sucks about this ectacy thing is the media is controlling the penalties. Since the MEDIA says its bad then the goverment reacts and fucks some people real bad that desearve a second chance. And don't let it fool you you don't have to sell thousands of pills to end up in prison for over 10 years. If the media wanted to they could increase the penaltys for juice significantly if we don't watch our asses. You think steroids and other rec. drugs aren't connected, open your eyes, cause thats the way the public views it. I don't think so but by talking to others who don't use juice they think its the same thing.
What i'm just trying to rally say is you can get fucked over royally for what we think is a minimal offense..Trust me I know all too well.....

---PEACE---Mad Max
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Whatever dude, did you even read my second post? 1Mistake still never made a second post to tell us why he is going to jail. All we know is the little that Frackal tells us. I know the system is fucked up and some people go to jail for seemingly nothing while rapists and murderers are running the street.

o <------ Your asshole before jail
and
0 <------Your asshole after jail

does not mean that I WANT that to happen to him. But come on, be real, you have to know what happens in jail. As I stated before, if it is for some useless drug charge, then let it be a warning to him to watch his back.

And thanks for the negative karma Mad Max. It is the only one (so far) that I received on this thread. I have received a lot more positive karma from this thread. Most people are giving green karma and not posting here because they fear some negative backlash from some members. But so far according to karma, it seems like more people agree with me that if you break the law, you go to jail. And when you go to jail, look out, shit happens.
 
I mean come on man, You don't know what he did but you are so quick to judge. There are a lot of people in there that don't deserve it and the ones who do are still running around. I know someone who got the royal fucking from our system. The joke is not funny.
 
first off my close 6 months was not for juice!! second i dont think he has even said what it was for.:angel:
 
T2O said:
I mean come on man, You don't know what he did but you are so quick to judge. There are a lot of people in there that don't deserve it and the ones who do are still running around. I know someone who got the royal fucking from our system. The joke is not funny.
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It's true that we don't what he did for sure, but the reason for that is because he didn't tell us in his post, leaving himself open to speculation. It's also true that some people are in jail who don't deserve it, but let's be honest, most of them do. I don't agree with some of the sentences that are handed out, but that is the law and there is little we can do about it except not break it. I'm not saint, but I understand that if I sell or use illegal drugs then I may have to pay the consequences.
 
If you are a sex offender they will hook you with an anklet that is basically like a GPS system. It is really expensive, so in most cases, the Department of Corrections assigns an officer to you and you have to give him/her a weekly schedule. You are allowed to got to work, school, grocery shopping, etc. In my case, my PO is pretty cool with me b/c she deals with a bunch of scumbags all day and it is obvious that I do not fit in with these people, so she treats me like a human being. She lets me toss the pigskin, run stairs, and go to the library...these are things that normally she does not let people do. House arrest in no joke. I have gone out partying a couple of times, but she has shown up at two in the morning before and also, she sometimes shows up to the house with a breathalizer. If you are >21, you cannot blow >.08, if you are <21 and blow even a .01, you are violated. I can't wait until January 16.
 
We all break the law here- a lot of the laws are bullshit- we all know that. I don't understand why some people are defending the law system in general. If you have enough money you can get reduced sentences or completely off for a lot of offenses. The system sucks.

But obviously if someones a rapist or murder or does anything with little kids they should be locked up for life IMO.
 
I feel for you going to jail BUT if it is for X then you DID ask for it. You were fucking with shit you KNOW the cops are after. There is no way around it, steroids and X are two things. You may be a good guy, I don't really know but you should have known better to fuck with that if you had previous incidences. I woulnd't touch the shit if my life depended on it.
 
Golfer18 said:
I feel for you going to jail BUT if it is for X then you DID ask for it. You were fucking with shit you KNOW the cops are after. There is no way around it, steroids and X are two things. You may be a good guy, I don't really know but you should have known better to fuck with that if you had previous incidences. I woulnd't touch the shit if my life depended on it.
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good post, I think that anyone who DEALS in drugs like H, ecstacy, coke, etc should be locked up. Look at AAS, they are drugs that people use for self-betterment, to get high, but it is a natural high off of the physique or cuts that you are gaining.

AAS don't deliver you from reality and they certainly don't cause any harm to those besides yourself(unless one goes on a halo rage).
 
MiamiStyle245 said:
If you are a sex offender they will hook you with an anklet that is basically like a GPS system. It is really expensive, so in most cases, the Department of Corrections assigns an officer to you and you have to give him/her a weekly schedule. You are allowed to got to work, school, grocery shopping, etc. In my case, my PO is pretty cool with me b/c she deals with a bunch of scumbags all day and it is obvious that I do not fit in with these people, so she treats me like a human being. She lets me toss the pigskin, run stairs, and go to the library...these are things that normally she does not let people do. House arrest in no joke. I have gone out partying a couple of times, but she has shown up at two in the morning before and also, she sometimes shows up to the house with a breathalizer. If you are >21, you cannot blow >.08, if you are <21 and blow even a .01, you are violated. I can't wait until January 16.
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yeah, that is what this one dude had. they could track him and he had to meet the officer once a week, and give his work etc schedule. i knew it was drugs or something to do with an underage girl. he never wanted to talk about it....but i bet since he was on the exact program you talked about.....be probably got in trouble with a younger girl. he always told me to stay away from underage girls, yet never told me what reason he was on this deal for. :D
 
PatBateman said:


good post, I think that anyone who DEALS in drugs like H, ecstacy, coke, etc should be locked up. Look at AAS, they are drugs that people use for self-betterment, to get high, but it is a natural high off of the physique or cuts that you are gaining.

AAS don't deliver you from reality and they certainly don't cause any harm to those besides yourself(unless one goes on a halo rage).
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"Deals" is a term that can be taken out of context, when we are talking about US Drug Laws. Alot, if not most guys doing time, are there based on the ASSUMPTION of dealing. All that you need to meet the presumption of dealing(posession w/ INTENT, or Conspiracy) is to posess an amount which is usually SO SMALL, that hardly anyone qualifies for mere posession. Hell, you don't even NEED any amount whatsoever to qualify for a "Conspiracy" rap. My point is, is to not assume that everyone doing time for selling drugs was actually doing so. I'll give you a brief example: Heroin is sold in small "stamp bags" in 1/10th gram amounts. Say you get caught with 15 of them, hypothetically. That's only 1.5 grams, but from the way it is packed(15 individual bags), would definitely get you a "w/ intent" tag from the Cops. That's hardly any huge amount, no matter how shitty of drug heroin might be brother.
 
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sorry to hear that but could you tell me what the hell are you still doing here ? I mean run away, change your identity, move to any God damn country (Cuba for example), don't give up so easily......
 
Bateman you are and idiot i hope you get locked up for something and take it in the BIG O you fuckin prick. Its so funny how some people here are completely for juice and then once something is said about any other drugs it is automatically wrong..lol becouse " you use it to forget" i mean thats bulshit just like AAS drugs can be used responsibly and etc. but there has to be those few idiots that are thick headed and think thru their ass.
 
"BTW, it is for ecstacy, which I do not nor have ever used, but do not believe it should be a criminal offense either."

Dude, of course it should be a criminal offense. X is a dirty drug that is way to easy to get. X will turn your brain into swiss cheese. Kids are using this drug at ages as young as 11 years old - thats F**ked up - kids that age don't know what bad for them nor do the have the foresight to care about the long term effects. Somethings need to be kept off the streets. 3-5 is harsh but pending on circumstances. It harsh if he had 20pills and is getting such a steap pnenaltiy but not harsh if he had 100 pills or more and was a multiple offender.
 
House Arrest

Miami, (funny Im in Orlando, close brothers)
House arrest doesnt officially start until the end of this week for me. Just got done wiht court on Fri. so I odnt know all of the details/regulations that I have to follow. I do know that I can work at a job. NOW, if I have to get a job at a gym(just so that I can work out), then so be it. But Im into Real Estate currrently, so Im not sure how my schedule will end up. I do know that I have to get a dedicated phone line for probation. Did you? Im federal and not state so im not sure if I will be getting an ankle bracelet or not.
 
sorry to hear it bro........just be calm and do your time. prison can be a good place to improve your physique since you can spend 24 hours/day in any way you like =/
 
too sad...
After talking to a friend of mine, whose son used X and Viagra at age 14 at parties... Very f..ked up...

There is no place for X out on streets... Unless punishment become harsh, the use and distribution of this drug becomes wide spread...

Just MO...
 
1Mistake

JW it's SOB good luck my friend Great to see you Last Thurs and again Sat at dinner. I'll send you my current address to write OK.

Good Luck Bro
SOB
 
You dont just get a 3-5 sentence in a FEDERAL pen , without any priors.... Unless of course what you did warrants it..... But i doubt that what he did was that bad, so IMO there is alot more to this story that we dont know...
 
"In any case whoever says X shouldnt be illegal and there shouldnt be harsh penalties for it doesnt know their head from their ass."

My thoughts exactly. That shit is no good.
 
Polfa/Jelfa said:
Bateman you are and idiot i hope you get locked up for something and take it in the BIG O you fuckin prick. Its so funny how some people here are completely for juice and then once something is said about any other drugs it is automatically wrong..lol becouse " you use it to forget" i mean thats bulshit just like AAS drugs can be used responsibly and etc. but there has to be those few idiots that are thick headed and think thru their ass.
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dude, don't be such a prick yourself. I don't look down on users( I myself in the past have used shrooms and pot), I'm just saying if you use the harder shit you are going to pay the price if you get caught(and some of the time people are getting caught for being too damn careless). I didn't say use it to forget, you said that. I said use to deliver one temporarily from reality, which is what drugs do, be them to alleviate everyday stress, get you recked and incoherent, etc.

If you reread this post, you will see a lot of levelheaded people who agree that X is shit and should in fact be very illegal. so why don't you pull your head out of your own O ring, brutha.
 
"In any case whoever says X shouldnt be illegal and there shouldnt be harsh penalties for it doesnt know their head from their ass."
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Fucking right!!!!!
This is an anabolic board, anabolic means building the body with or without steroids. Its not a board for junkies or rec drug users.
X does irreversiable damege to the brain.
 
The Almighty said:
In any case whoever says X shouldnt be illegal and there shouldnt be harsh penalties for it doesnt know their head from their ass.
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EXACTLY !!!! ITS NOT LIKE THE DUDE GOT CAUGHT WITH A JOINT IN HIS POCKET AND IS GETTING ROYALY FUCKED BY "THE SYSTEM". HE WAS ALLEGEDLY CAUGHT WITH A DRUG THAT DOES SERIOUS DAMAGE TO YOUR BRAIN AND IS BEING PASSED ON TO YOUNG KIDS AT AN ALARMING RATE , NOT TO MENTION HOW FUCKING DIRTY THIS SHIT DRUG IS....
 
The Almighty said:
In any case whoever says X shouldnt be illegal and there shouldnt be harsh penalties for it doesnt know their head from their ass.
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"Illegal": Yes, it should be.

"Harsh Penalties": Nope. Fines out the ass maybe, but not Jail. Too many violent offenders getting out early because guys with 100 tabs of MDMA have to occupy Cells, because of "Manditory Minimum Penalties" associated with all States, as well as Federal, Drug Laws. And if you don't know that much, you are the one who doesn't know head from ass bro.
 
Zerxes said:


"Illegal": Yes, it should be.

"Harsh Penalties": Nope. Fines out the ass maybe, but not Jail. Too many violent offenders getting out early because guys with 100 tabs of MDMA have to occupy Cells, because of "Manditory Minimum Penalties" associated with all States, as well as Federal, Drug Laws. And if you don't know that much, you are the one who doesn't know head from ass bro.
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I agree with you to a point, but I really think the focus should be on marijuana reform. Let's face it, they are never going to totally overhaul the drug penalties, so at least the first step in this direction would be to focus on marijuana reform, something that is coming along very slowly indeed, but has made a few minor advancements. But as far as X is concerned, they will never cave, the govt will always have very harsh penalties for x, special K, h, etc., so I do agree with your statement, but the real solution in light of the fact that the drug laws are extremely hard to change would be to build more prisons. Good point tho, the legal system in this country is a joke, you can kill someone and be out sooner than some drug offenders. It's ridiculous.
 
dont worry about dropping the soap

I hate to tell some of yall, but getting raped in the ass is pretty
rare these days. I have a few friends that did 3-5 bids and they
said that while it does happen, its normally to fags that take it
up the shitter regardless. they said as long as your cool and
can get along with black people, or at least be cool, everything
will be OK. Jail is more boring than scary. And to all the guys
giving this guy shit should relax. If you dont aprove of his crime thats fine. But dont kick someone when they are down. And
hell Im sure some of yall kiss your sources ass when they have
rec drugs all over them. I pesonaly dont really mess with the rec
stuff, I like to have a strong drink.
 
FreedomFighter, you probably will be on electronic monitoring(anklet) if you were told that you need a specific home phone line for your house arrest case. I personally know that with the Department of Corrections(I am not sure whether they are in charge of Fed cases also, but assume so), a phone line is only required if you are on the anklet. Regardless, their number one priority is the victim. If your crime was victimless, you shouldn't have a problem with your real estate job. For instance, if I raped a girl, red flags will go up if I am cruising by her home "looking" for some real estate. By the way, what do you do with real estate. I am interested in getting started with real estate speculation and rentals as there is a fortune to be made in this field. My father made a small fortune investing in commercial property on Lincoln Road in Miami Beach. Anyways, you definitely will not be allowed to have an open ended schedule, but it really completely depends on your individual officer. I did some comm. service with a guy who was on house arrest in orange county(opposed to seminole, don't know your exact whereabouts) and he said that his officer was cool as fuck and he basically did whatever he wanted. I set up a little home gym and made the best of a bad situation. Adjustable dumbells, although akward, and a hassle to change the weights are cheap. Combine that with a flat/incline/decline bench, and your good to go. By the way, I grew up in Miami, but I live in Tampa in Hillsborough county and that is where I am serving the house arrest. We are actually pretty close neighbors. I study at USF out here.
 
First off enigmaxxx-sorry to say go fuck yourself but i'm caught in the middle of the system right now and it really pisses me off when people don't know what their talking about. As for x being bad, I would like to see a study comparing one x's pill on the body to a hard cycle that half of us do every year.. X is bad on the brain but the brain DOES regrow cells, use logic of course you can't go overboard with it, but a yearly thing isn't going to fuck you up. Can anyone make the argument that 1 gram of test and fina "made in a bath tub" usually isn't worst on your body. Don't get me wrong i'm not promoting the use of x but just playing the devils advocate since most members here don't know much about rec. drugs due to where they live or other circumstances.
It just doesn't make sense to me how some people walk around with the blodd pressure of an 80 year old man for 12 weeks at a time but just because they take it to improve themselfs then steroids are not a drug. But if you take something to have fun your consided a druggie, even if its a few times a year. I don't know maybe i'm too open minded.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
By the way, I have been to jail for a few days at a time and have spoken to many people who have been to prison as I thought that is where I might be headed. Luckily, I had money to hire a lawyer and am currently on the last leg of my house arrest sentence. From what I have heard, federal prison is not bad at all compared to state prison. Also, if you are under 25, I have heard that you can be sent to somewhere that is for youthful offenders and it is no sweat. As for state prison, most likely, somebody is going to try you. As long as you fight the first time, even if it is for something minor, like 'clean my cell' or anything, you should be alright. There are enough faggots in there that a punk doesn't want to have to fight for the booty. Don't be scared or give in to any power trip game bullshit. Fight the first time around...even if you lose, people will see that you are willing to fight and most likely they will be reluctant to try to punk you out.
 
Zerxes said:


"Illegal": Yes, it should be.

"Harsh Penalties": Nope. Fines out the ass maybe, but not Jail. Too many violent offenders getting out early because guys with 100 tabs of MDMA have to occupy Cells, because of "Manditory Minimum Penalties" associated with all States, as well as Federal, Drug Laws. And if you don't know that much, you are the one who doesn't know head from ass bro.
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Thats your opinion and I respect that. I do know full well of all the manditory laws regarding penalties, etc...but there are thousands upon thousands of kids slipping into comas and obtaining permanent brain damage due to what tey would call "moderate" use of this shit. I watched my younger brother fuck up 5 years of his teenage life using drugs like this.

My head is about 3 feet above my anus my son...if you deal this kinda shit you obviously have no regard for the lives and wellbeing of youth around the country.
 
I got caught with weed but got off on a technicallity. The system works both ways. When people sell shit that they know is illegal, they are taking a chance in order to make money on something that they can get that somebody wants. It is unfortunate but not unreasonable.
 
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if you deal this kinda shit you obviously have no regard for the lives and wellbeing of youth around the country.
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Woah! How'd we go from discussing Manditory Mins. to me being an X dealer??
 
House A.

Yea Miami I am located in Orange county. I actually used to live in Pinellas(where my first arrest happened). My crime is juice for both times(victimless). As we know rape, voilence, etc. are all state charges. Feds usually only handle drug case, fraud, money laundering, etc. etc. all the rest are state charges. I sell real estate for an investor. Just got in to it. Should have doen it long time ago, wouldnt be in this situation had I had a legit job ;^>
When did your H.A. start? 6months for me doesnt seem all that bad, considering my revocation guidelines were 12-18 months oif IMPRISONMENT.
 
Mad Max said:
X is bad on the brain but the brain DOES regrow cells, use logic of course you can't go overboard with it, but a yearly thing isn't going to fuck you up.
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sorry to correct you, but...
if you look at phsycological effects of extacy, you will clearly see that it causes chemical imbalance in brain... Yes, to regrow cells is possible, but to return to original chemical settings is almost impossible without drugs (antidepressants, etc...)

So, once again... X should be taken off the streets... Most users are teens and that is plain simple not right...

Just FYI:

IMMEDIATE EFFECTS OF ECSTASY
feelings of detachment
Vloss of drives such as hunger, sleep
muscle tension
blurred vision/rapid eye movements
sweating or chills
insomnia
tremors
hypertension
increase in heart rate
decrease in appetite
dehydration
nausea
fainting
death
LONG TERM EFFECTS OF ECSTASY
anorexia
high blood pressure
kidney failure
stroke
change in emotion
affects memory
change in brain chemicals

Recent studies on rats and monkeys indicate that Exctasy causes permanent brain damage in the areas critical to thought and memory and that it damages the neurons that use serotonin to communicate with other neurons. Users who develop an acne-like rash and continue to use Exctasy a re at increased risk of severe liver damage. Exctasy may alter motor skills, giving the user the appearance of suffering from Parkinson’s disease.
PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF ECSTASY
confusion
depression
sleep problems
anxiety
paranoia
hallucinations
panic
psychotic episodes
confusion, depression, sleep problems
drug craving, severe anxiety, and paranoia - during and sometimes weeks after.

Exctasy use greatly increases blood pressure and heart rate. Body temperature can increase to 109 degrees if taken at a club or rave where there is physical exertion. Obvious physical effects include muscle tension, involuntary teeth clenching, nausea, blurred vision, rapid eye movement, faintness, chills or sweating, extreme relaxation, and tremors. Use can result in heart failure or heat stroke.
ECSTASY, WHAT IS THE DOSAGE?
 
The Almighty said:
In any case whoever says X shouldnt be illegal and there shouldnt be harsh penalties for it doesnt know their head from their ass.
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My thoughts exactly...and anyone who relates X to steroids is way off. Steroids are not recreational drugs that are used to get high and I can't remember the last time I heard 12 year olds slipping into comas and getting raped while on gear. I'm not saying that gear is safe, just that there is a big difference between the two.
 
Freedom, my house arrest started July 16, and I am up for early termination/rollover on January 16, 2003. My guidelines were 31 months state prison. I got a downward departure from the prosecutor and plead to a year HA followed by 3 years probation. There is no reason that my HA wouldn't get rolled over to probation in January as I have already paid all of my fines and done all of my hours.
I know most fed charges are victimless and you shouldn't have a problem with your job. It really all depends on your officer. I think that they intentionally make it a hassle to get in touch with your officer so that people won't harrass them nonstop. My officer is never in the office because she is in the field six days a week doing check-ups on cases and whatnot. She is only in the office on Tuesday. For a guy like yourself, with a job that doesn't sound like it has regular hours, a good relationship with your PO is critical. She may or may not let you call in your hours on a message machine. I overheard my PO talking to an employer of another of her cases. He has an open ended schedule and he can call in his hours to her by way of message, but the only reason she lets him do this is because his judge mandated it in his specific orders. As a matter of fact, she was explaining to his employer why she violated him and it had to do with the fact that he said he was going to be home from work at a certain hour and he wasn't. If you have the anklet, your PO probably won't come by the house or work often. That anklet is like a GPS and they can get your exact location at any given time so it is really no messing around. To me, it might be better to have the anklet because there is absolutely no temptation to go out. I don't skip out on HA myself because I have a miserable time when I am out no matter what because I can't shed the fear of "what if"... My PO has only come by the house after midnight once in four months, but it is just not worth it to me to get violated over some dumb shit. Good luck on your case. You might want to think about asking the judge to specify in your orders that you have a job in which the hours fluctuate. Sounds like you got a good job and wouldn't want to throw it away.
If you don't mind me asking, how did you get popped for juice twice? Mail? Is your 6 months to be served in full or are you eligible for early term? Good luck and keep me posted.
 
Wow, what a waste of time. I just browsed that whole thread to find NO ANSWER to why he's going to jail. Maybe he's lying. Why post something like that and not explain what happened to help out fellow bros? :rolleyes: whatever
 
mvmaxx said:
Wow, what a waste of time. I just browsed that whole thread to find NO ANSWER to why he's going to jail. Maybe he's lying. Why post something like that and not explain what happened to help out fellow bros? :rolleyes: whatever
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Don't you just hate these threads? They give you some info but not enough to learn anything...
 
Hmmmm let's see...it's my last night as a free man on this Earth for 3-5 years...now what should I do??? Should I, A. Sit around explaining to a bunch of overly curious internet geeks, as to why I am going away. or B. Go out out and fuck everything, &/or anything with a pulse. Scratch that: Pulse optional.

A great big ole DUH for you last two posters.
 
Zerxes said:
Hmmmm let's see...it's my last night as a free man on this Earth for 3-5 years...now what should I do??? Should I, A. Sit around explaining to a bunch of overly curious internet geeks, as to why I am going away. or B. Go out out and fuck everything, &/or anything with a pulse. Scratch that: Pulse optional.

A great big ole DUH for you last two posters.
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You don't think he couldn't have taking 30 secs to write up WHY he was going to jail??? He took the time to log on to his computer and post this thread, he doesn't have time to type out 2-3 sentences explaining the reason he's being locked up? :confused:
 
Zerxes said:
Hmmmm let's see...it's my last night as a free man on this Earth for 3-5 years...now what should I do??? Should I, A. Sit around explaining to a bunch of overly curious internet geeks, as to why I am going away. or B. Go out out and fuck everything, &/or anything with a pulse. Scratch that: Pulse optional.

A great big ole DUH for you last two posters.
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Hmmmmm let's think about this. The dumbass took the time to get on the Internet, login to Elite and post this thread. So how long would it have taken him to explain why he got busted to possibly help other bros? 10 seconds? 15 maybe??

Fuck him.
 
I have a feeling you two both have yearly subscriptions with "The National Enquirer". What's with needing the gossip?? Was the fucking Beauty Parlor closed today or what?! Let the guy live. You'll wake up free on Wednesday. He won't.
 
I really hate it when people put themselves on moral high horses.

A whole lot of you shit on E because it does some serious damage to the body. Yet most of us are in here shooting hormones into the body at doses nearly (and often more than) 10x whats normally produced in the body. Granted, E and other rec drugs are used for...recreation. Ok. And AAS, Slin, DNP and GH are used to build a better body. Ok.

But here me out, why is it sooo bad to use a drug to have fun, and not so bad to use a drug to build up your body to levels that are just not natural.

Im not about to sit here and tell you how horrible AAS and its friends are. Id be a hipocrite. I certainly have, do and will use them. I see nothing morally wrong with doing what you will to your body.

Some of these blanketed statements about what E does to you, sound unfounded, and sounds more like BS scare tactics, much like those used to swerve people from using other drugs like weed and AAS. Im sure the website that posts all those negative effects of E also has a page for AAS usage, and Im sure we can all take a nice good long laugh at that list, since we all know better. Yet we can laugh at those effects, but for some odd reason, we take the comments on E seriosuly. Just like AAS, improper, irresponsible, abusive use of E will hurt you. But like AAS, proper, responsible sensible use of E, with proper ancilliries is safe.

We take Milk Thistle, ALA, and other liver protectants to protect our bodies from liver damage due to AAS usage. We take drugs, that are actually meant for women (Clomid, HCG, Nolva) in order to kick start nat test production and help us keep our gains. Well guess what guys, E too has its ancilliries to help protect the brain from its damaging effects. Its called Prozac. And its effectiveness has been proven, go look up some articles on Medline or Psychinfo.

Ive been on this rant before. But It just burns me to the core when people try to put themselves up on some kind of moral pedastal. We do AAS, ravers do E. We both are doing things we dont HAVE to do, but rather CHOOSE to do. And our use does not have any direct, physical, negative impact on the next person, so who really cares?

Dont come at me with the line, "But we do AAS because we are trying to better our bodies" DOnt give me that. GO read up a thread over at AnabolicMadness, whodaman a well like and respect ved/mod has posted his story. Hes only 26, but yet has a cholesterol profile that puts him at a serious risk for a heart attack. What caused this? Excessive AAS and Anti-E use. ANd I only mean "clinically" excissive. He certainly wasnt doing crazy amounts of either. Many more people on that bored rushed out to gethe thier cholesterol checked, and guess what fellas? MOst came back with scary profiles. The dangers of AAS are real, as real as E. But again, its what we've chosen to do. Our reasons to do these things is irrelevant. The only thing thats relevant is our choice, and whether or not our choices has a direct physical impact on someone else, trying to do thier thing.

Later meatheads and E-Tards
 
Zerxes said:
I have a feeling you two both have yearly subscriptions with "The National Enquirer". What's with needing the gossip?? Was the fucking Beauty Parlor closed today or what?! Let the guy live. You'll wake up free on Wednesday. He won't.
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If somebody on a steroid board(ie a steroid user) is sent to jail for 3-5 years...I want to know why. Because, maybe, just maybe I'll be able to learn something to protect myself. Instead, he leaves us in the dark.

Is that too much to ask???
 
Zerxes said:
I have a feeling you two both have yearly subscriptions with "The National Enquirer". What's with needing the gossip?? Was the fucking Beauty Parlor closed today or what?! Let the guy live. You'll wake up free on Wednesday. He won't.
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Gbus, are you that thick headed that I have to spell it out for you? :confused:

If he got busted for something we all do here, like received gear in the mail, etc. Then he could have posted HOW he got busted and we all could have come up with solutions to prevent that from happening again to the thousands of users on this board.
 
BigAndy69 said:


If somebody on a steroid board(ie a steroid user) is sent to jail for 3-5 years...I want to know why. Because, maybe, just maybe I'll be able to learn something to protect myself. Instead, he leaves us in the dark.

Is that too much to ask???
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ROFLMAO!! :FRlol: You and I are posting the exact same arguments and I didn't even see either of your posts until I submitted mine. Hilarious. Intelligent minds think alike.

......Then again so do dipshits. :rolleyes: <read above>
 
mvmaxx said:


ROFLMAO!! :FRlol: You and I are posting the exact same arguments and I didn't even see either of your posts until I submitted mine. Hilarious. Intelligent minds think alike.

......Then again so do dipshits. :rolleyes: <read above>
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Hey we are two peas in a pot. :)

Mvmaxx,,, do me a favor and drop me a line at [email protected] I'd like to discuss something with you.
 
basically sents say i order 400 tabs of something, any AAS, you pick, and they were to seize it, could they come to my house and take me away???
 
hitmeoff said:
I really hate it when people put themselves on moral high horses.

A whole lot of you shit on E because it does some serious damage to the body. Yet most of us are in here shooting hormones into the body at doses nearly (and often more than) 10x whats normally produced in the body. Granted, E and other rec drugs are used for...recreation. Ok. And AAS, Slin, DNP and GH are used to build a better body. Ok.

But here me out, why is it sooo bad to use a drug to have fun, and not so bad to use a drug to build up your body to levels that are just not natural.

Im not about to sit here and tell you how horrible AAS and its friends are. Id be a hipocrite. I certainly have, do and will use them. I see nothing morally wrong with doing what you will to your body.

Some of these blanketed statements about what E does to you, sound unfounded, and sounds more like BS scare tactics, much like those used to swerve people from using other drugs like weed and AAS. Im sure the website that posts all those negative effects of E also has a page for AAS usage, and Im sure we can all take a nice good long laugh at that list, since we all know better. Yet we can laugh at those effects, but for some odd reason, we take the comments on E seriosuly. Just like AAS, improper, irresponsible, abusive use of E will hurt you. But like AAS, proper, responsible sensible use of E, with proper ancilliries is safe.

We take Milk Thistle, ALA, and other liver protectants to protect our bodies from liver damage due to AAS usage. We take drugs, that are actually meant for women (Clomid, HCG, Nolva) in order to kick start nat test production and help us keep our gains. Well guess what guys, E too has its ancilliries to help protect the brain from its damaging effects. Its called Prozac. And its effectiveness has been proven, go look up some articles on Medline or Psychinfo.

Ive been on this rant before. But It just burns me to the core when people try to put themselves up on some kind of moral pedastal. We do AAS, ravers do E. We both are doing things we dont HAVE to do, but rather CHOOSE to do. And our use does not have any direct, physical, negative impact on the next person, so who really cares?

Dont come at me with the line, "But we do AAS because we are trying to better our bodies" DOnt give me that. GO read up a thread over at AnabolicMadness, whodaman a well like and respect ved/mod has posted his story. Hes only 26, but yet has a cholesterol profile that puts him at a serious risk for a heart attack. What caused this? Excessive AAS and Anti-E use. ANd I only mean "clinically" excissive. He certainly wasnt doing crazy amounts of either. Many more people on that bored rushed out to gethe thier cholesterol checked, and guess what fellas? MOst came back with scary profiles. The dangers of AAS are real, as real as E. But again, its what we've chosen to do. Our reasons to do these things is irrelevant. The only thing thats relevant is our choice, and whether or not our choices has a direct physical impact on someone else, trying to do thier thing.

Later meatheads and E-Tards
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you are making this statement and don't even know if he was dealing or simply posessing E.
At any rate... 3-5 years is harsh for a first offense... Or is it a repeated offense???... I bet there is way more to this story... But the problem is we will never figure this out (maybe after 3-5 years) cause he is a gonner...

By the way... most people who responded on this thread "put themselves on high moral horses" because E is mostly used by teens... They are the ones that will be our future... I already laugh at the president who used to used cocaine... Sad... I don't want to see a president who used to used E... It will be pathetic...
By the way... The boy I mentioned in my earlier post... He just died... No matter what the hell you say about this... Teen has no idea if something is right or wrong... But someone who sells them that crap does... And you call it "recreation?" Maybe you will try to argue a point that it is alright for girls to be raped while being on it? That will be interesting to hear... I volunteer to help teens whose lifes got f..ked up, thanks to drugs like E...
Moral issues, you know... has nothing to do with "moral high horses."
 
hey hitmeoff:

if you need E to have a good or better time at a rave, than I really feel sorry for you. The scare tactics you mentioned are used a lot, but not always wrongly so, and in E's case they are warranted, do some research on E. It's dangers are not even close to those you refer to as related to AAS.

The major difference you fail to connect is that AAS aren't traditionally used to have "fun"

You would say I'm going to do a few hits of E and go have some "fun."

I would say I'm going to go shoot 2cc's of Sustanon and go "work" on my tri's and wail on my delts.:p
 
I dont NEED E to have fun, just as I dont NEED (and the rest of us dont NEED) AAS to build better bodies. But we choose to.

I dont fail to recognize the differeance, in fact I stress over and over that our REASONS dont matter. Let me give you an example:

One of my best friends has turned into an alcoholic. He sees nothing wrong with drinking his shit everyday, getting a beer belly, having a drunkards tan, etc. I told him recently I was juicin. You should have seen the look on his face...as If I was Satan himself. No amount of logic or reason will ever change this guys mind on AAS usage. My AAS usage is just as evil to him, as if I was doing heroine. Obviously, I can say "well were both fucking up our bodies, but at least mine will look good when im dead!" but somehow that doesnt seem to make AAS usage any more moral. Its not. I still do it, and proud to admit.

Poin tof all this is both activites are defined as illegal (AAS, E). Irresponsible, and prolonged use of both can lead to death. Neither of the two are essential to our well being. We can get by perfectly fine in this world by not using AAS or E. So our "reasons" are irrelavent.
 
RussianBro said:


you are making this statement and don't even know if he was dealing or simply posessing E.
At any rate... 3-5 years is harsh for a first offense... Or is it a repeated offense???... I bet there is way more to this story... But the problem is we will never figure this out (maybe after 3-5 years) cause he is a gonner...

By the way... most people who responded on this thread "put themselves on high moral horses" because E is mostly used by teens... They are the ones that will be our future... I already laugh at the president who used to used cocaine... Sad... I don't want to see a president who used to used E... It will be pathetic...
By the way... The boy I mentioned in my earlier post... He just died... No matter what the hell you say about this... Teen has no idea if something is right or wrong... But someone who sells them that crap does... And you call it "recreation?" Maybe you will try to argue a point that it is alright for girls to be raped while being on it? That will be interesting to hear... I volunteer to help teens whose lifes got f..ked up, thanks to drugs like E...
Moral issues, you know... has nothing to do with "moral high horses."
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I was actually respondign to the people who were bashing E use. And I agree, most teens dont know what the fuck is up. But dont kid yourself, there are plenty of teens out there using AAS as well. Sure we may convince a few on these boards to just hold off, but do you really think that the majority of the nations High school athletes visit these boards? Of course not. There are still plenty of teens out there who are shooting gear, doing irreversable damage to thier young bodies. Sure they may not die from one day to the next, but the damage is cumulative, and yes it does matter.

Is AAS as big of a problem as E for teens? Probably not. But dont tell me its not a problem at all. DOnt tell me no teen out there is stunting his growth, and fucking up his liver, because he didnt know any better. My discussion mainly involves ADULTS. I dont think teens should even be allowed ot smoke or drink, let alone use E or AAS.

So when I talk about AAS this and E that, Im strictly talking about ADULTS...Consenting, cognitive Adults. And believe it or not, Adults are the WORST drug addicts. E is quickly becoming popular in the middle age crowd, trust me, I see it.

And what the help does RAPE come into all this? Remember, I all for RESPONSIBLE, SENSIBLE use. Most people who do E DONT rape people, just as most people who use AAS DONT go crazy and bea tup thier girlfriends, so please dont use that as some sort of platform for your argument.
 
Originally posted by Mad Max
X is bad on the brain but the brain DOES regrow cells, use logic of course you can't go overboard with it, but a yearly thing isn't going to fuck you up.
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Sorry to fuck with your world,BUT the brain does not regenerate destroyed cells like other organs most notable the liver. I repeat the brain DOES NOT regrow cells. If you do not wish to believe me, ask any high school biology student.
 
"Sorry to fuck with your world,BUT the brain does not regenerate destroyed cells like other organs most notable the liver. I repeat the brain DOES NOT regrow cells. If you do not wish to believe me, ask any high school biology student."

AMEN!
 
lol... the only organs in the body that can regenerate cells are the liver, skin and blood (yes they are organs) muscles and brains cant...
 
hitmeoff said:
I dont NEED E to have fun, just as I dont NEED (and the rest of us dont NEED) AAS to build better bodies. But we choose to.

I dont fail to recognize the differeance, in fact I stress over and over that our REASONS dont matter. Let me give you an example:

One of my best friends has turned into an alcoholic. He sees nothing wrong with drinking his shit everyday, getting a beer belly, having a drunkards tan, etc. I told him recently I was juicin. You should have seen the look on his face...as If I was Satan himself. No amount of logic or reason will ever change this guys mind on AAS usage. My AAS usage is just as evil to him, as if I was doing heroine. Obviously, I can say "well were both fucking up our bodies, but at least mine will look good when im dead!" but somehow that doesnt seem to make AAS usage any more moral. Its not. I still do it, and proud to admit.

Poin tof all this is both activites are defined as illegal (AAS, E). Irresponsible, and prolonged use of both can lead to death. Neither of the two are essential to our well being. We can get by perfectly fine in this world by not using AAS or E. So our "reasons" are irrelavent.
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Geez man, I don't know how you go about your usage of aas or the doses you use, but I for one am not "fucking up my body." There are a lot of bros who get regular profiles done around here and are perfectly healthy, some even had levels in their tests get better with the use of anabolics. I have never seen a healthy alcoholic and as the posters below indicate, E destroys brain cells that cannot be regrown. Sorry bro, AAS and E are not the same ballpark so stop trying to say they are. You're wrong.
 
liftsiron- don't worry about it your not fucking with my world. I was obviously misinformed and i'm trying to think of where I heard that. Thanks for pointing it out though or else I would have felt like a real dick if I was having a face to face with someone on the topic.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
Zerxes said:


Name-calling & attacking a persons spelling....both classic signs that a guy has spent himself intellectually.
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Well then by calling us all "internet geeks" a page ago proves you are on the same boat full of people you claim to be better than.
 
allow me to enlighten. i have talked to him about it before. (i am a lurker)

1mistake helped develop/market a g analog product containing 1,4. Friends got busted and ratted him out.

NOW... how this became an MDMA charge i do not know for sure, but i assume during the investigation pills were found and because it is easier to convict for MDMA than under the analog statute, that is what he went down for.
 
underoos said:
allow me to enlighten. i have talked to him about it before. (i am a lurker)

1mistake helped develop/market a g analog product containing 1,4. Friends got busted and ratted him out.

NOW... how this became an MDMA charge i do not know for sure, but i assume during the investigation pills were found and because it is easier to convict for MDMA than under the analog statute, that is what he went down for.
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THANK YOU!!! I can understand how he'd get busted for anything related to g as the feds have a serious hard on for that right now. That truly does suck though. I have to wonder if he got a lawyer.
 
he was originally supposed to go in about a year ago (that is what he said)... 9/11 helped postpone his time until now...
 
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