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biggchris33

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im thinkin bout runnin an mgf long lr3 cycle for 30 -45 days..... anybody have any experience... from what im reading safer then aas and better results in shorter time.... anything from anyone would be appreciated, especially personal experience...
 
You will only get subtle results with Igf1 and MGF. I would say don't expect to put on more than 1 or 2 pounds during your cycle. From experience :You will notice an increase in appetite and very slight fat loss. The igf will give you noticeably stronger pumps in the gym due to increased glycogen in the muscles. Peptides will definitely not give you results any where near what steroids would do. Peptides aren't necessarily safer than steroids if you consider the very little results you get from them. I use IGF1 during my PCT so that im able to keep eating and for the placebo effect of injecting something. I would say peptides should not be taken if you're not going to compete.
 
Overall very disappointed with IGF and MGF. Other than a little fat loss maybe and improved vascualrity didn't see much at all from cycling these. I have a feeling that injecting IGF and it not being bound to IGBP's as would paracrine IGF and therfore protected makes exogenous injections of IGF pointless. It is likely that you could see benefits from injects of IGF when concerned with wound healing but for anabolism I suggest the effect is neglible at best if any really.
 
I Have to diagree. I've got good results with igf1Lr3 and somewhat mixed with MGF. On the whole tho i'd say u get more bang for ur buck with AAS especially if u're new to it.
 
I personally use IGF1Lr3 and MGF together along with a Stana and had great results. I am 6'5" and before cycle I was 117 kilograms at approximately 12% and when I finished I was still 117 kilograms but bodyfat was down to 9% within 25 days. I found I could eat more carbohydrates while cutting up and putting on muscle mass while usually, my body does not tolerate carbohydrates well. I think everything works differently on everyone so give it a try and see how it works. Just don't abuse anything and do your research. Best of luck with it!
 
ok 1 more thought now wouldnt it also benefit to be on test with lr3 cause wouldnt it then drive the nutrients into your muscles and since u get more nitrogen with test wouldnt it enhance its effectivness similar with say t3 but with far less muscle wasting and then if one were to add t3 then would mgf counteract its muscle wasting properties.........?
 
ok 1 more thought now wouldnt it also benefit to be on test with lr3 cause wouldnt it then drive the nutrients into your muscles and since u get more nitrogen with test wouldnt it enhance its effectivness similar with say t3 but with far less muscle wasting and then if one were to add t3 then would mgf counteract its muscle wasting properties.........?

Yes test does enhance the effect of Igf. The enhancement of steroidal action from T3 is due to increased metabolic action so the secret to using it for that is keeping the dose low enough that the catabolism doesn't take effect. You'd have to keep it at 25 mcg max for that. I think using a full dose of T3 (say 100mcg ed)and the using MGF to negate the catabolism would be counterproductive. You wouldn't get the full benefit of the MGF that way. Besides some winny or var would counteract the catabolism just as effectively.
 
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