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rage22

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Trying to set up a Test C cycle. I've done a few cycles of oral steroids, anavar (which was prob dbol because I have my doubts it was legit), winny, and Helladrol and one of rs-transaderm which, was eh... very light. Tended to just make me feel anx more then any gains else. Have used Mk-2866 and Gw-501516... Like them but want to keep them for use in between cycles. Pretty much, orals are fun, but I tend to just want more. Recently a lot of guys in the gym have been running various things from Test E, C, P, Tren, deca, dbol etc. I have talk with pretty much everyone of them and all have told me I should try out "the real deal" and Ill never look back to ph/ds or any oral ever again afterwards. I've seen the tranformations take place and I want the same and feel Im ready to try it out.

Stats: 186lbs 10.4% bf (started at 150lb 3 years ago)
Lifting religously for 3 years and running ph/ds/orals off and on for 2yrs.

Goal: To see what I can achieve. I want to be 200lbs by fall and get down to 7% Bf.

My Proposed 12-15wk Cycle:
Test Cyp- 400-500mg EW taken split 2 times a week Monday and Thursday (so 200mg or 250mg per injection)
Arimidex if gyno, bloat or any other sides occur.
Hcgenerate- 5 caps ED
Formastanzol- 5-7 pumps 2 times ED
N2Guard- 7 caps ED
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED

Post Cycle:
Liquid Torem- 120/90/60/30
Formastanzol- 5 pumps reduced to 3 pumps 2 times ED
Post Cycle- as recommended
Unleashed- as recommended
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED
Multi-vit- as recommended
No2- Yoked or equal to it
Creatine- any type, usually like to try new types or a combination of the 3 out there.
Mk-2866- 12.5mg ED

Questions and reasoning:
My source is telling me that he just runs Test C 500mg split 2 times EW for 15 wks and then uses Arimidex if gyno, bloat etc. occurs during cycle @ .25mg-.5mg EOD and he also just uses Arimidex for his pct at .25mg- .5mg EOD. Thats it.

PCT: To me, I dont think that is quite enough. Reason Im hear asking. I have done a little research on using Arimidex only for PCT and it has been done but I also read of possible rebound. I don't want that and want the smoothest cycle I can get. I don't want to feel shutdown or any of the sides that tend to come with that (anx, depression, lack of motivation and low libido, F*** that), been there, done that. So PCT is of most importance to me and I strive to put the most I can into it to keep that "on" feeling and keep my gains. Lets face it.. normal, just isn't fun either haha.

I added Formastanzol, Post cycle, and Unleashed to my pct to obviously bring me back to normal but I don't know if they will be enough. (has always for other cycles, but I feel this is a little more intense) I know its said to be by some but I just don't know. I added Torem for the reduced sides over Clomid or Nolva. And I'll have Arimidex that I can always resort to if it turns out that that will suffice. Too much? Help here please.

Mk is in there because I love it and it works great to help retain gains and keep that gooood feeling.

CYCLE: I included Hcgenerate on cycle to try and keep myself from shutting down as much as possible. I realize that this may not be enough (was for other oral cycles though). Would you recommend getting real Hcg instead? I would inject Sub-q as opposed to IM and would dose at 500iu 2 times a week for last 4 weeks while on cycle (depending on if my balls have shrank that bad or not). Matter-a-fact Id inject as soon as I see signs of atrophy but I have also read of desensitising of the Leydig Cells and I deff dont want any complications here so any help is much appreciated!

I included Formastanzol as a light AI to hopefully keep any sides in check and not have to resort to Arimidex. I have never run anything that aromatized so this will be new to me. I do know that estrogenic sides basically just suck to have so what do you think about this? strong enough or too week?

The Krill oil and N2guard, well we all know why they are there. Just good to have for added support on any cycle.

Ok, thats it for now. Please let loose and tell me what you think. My stuff is on the way and I'm way excited to try this out! :evil:

ps. diet is clean and from Biohazardmass.com. Im on the GetBIGstayLean diet. Basically its 7 meals a day with a ton of chicken, Sirloin for dinner every night, a weight gainer 2 times ed. rice, lots of good veggies, coconut oil and olive oil. Its a decent diet and one that I use for every cycle. But because it was "sold to me" I don't know if I can post it.
 
your torem dose can start at 90, no need to start at 120... 90/60/60/30... go with creatine nitrate as opposed to other creatines, it has no water retention and will definitely be exactly what you are looking for considering your goals... hcg should be 250, not 500... your pct is plenty strong bro, its looks great... just lower that initial torem dose... it is very possible hcgenerate is enough on cycle, thats really personal preference....
 
Everything looks pretty good. Now you just have to eat big and train intensely. Good Luck!
 
Trying to set up a Test C cycle. I've done a few cycles of oral steroids, anavar (which was prob dbol because I have my doubts it was legit), winny, and Helladrol and one of rs-transaderm which, was eh... very light. Tended to just make me feel anx more then any gains else. Have used Mk-2866 and Gw-501516... Like them but want to keep them for use in between cycles. Pretty much, orals are fun, but I tend to just want more. Recently a lot of guys in the gym have been running various things from Test E, C, P, Tren, deca, dbol etc. I have talk with pretty much everyone of them and all have told me I should try out "the real deal" and Ill never look back to ph/ds or any oral ever again afterwards. I've seen the tranformations take place and I want the same and feel Im ready to try it out.

Stats: 186lbs 10.4% bf (started at 150lb 3 years ago)
Lifting religously for 3 years and running ph/ds/orals off and on for 2yrs.

Goal: To see what I can achieve. I want to be 200lbs by fall and get down to 7% Bf.

My Proposed 12-15wk Cycle:
Test Cyp- 400-500mg EW taken split 2 times a week Monday and Thursday (so 200mg or 250mg per injection)
Arimidex if gyno, bloat or any other sides occur.
Hcgenerate- 5 caps ED
Formastanzol- 5-7 pumps 2 times ED
N2Guard- 7 caps ED
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED

Post Cycle:
Liquid Torem- 120/90/60/30
Formastanzol- 5 pumps reduced to 3 pumps 2 times ED
Post Cycle- as recommended
Unleashed- as recommended
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED
Multi-vit- as recommended
No2- Yoked or equal to it
Creatine- any type, usually like to try new types or a combination of the 3 out there.
Mk-2866- 12.5mg ED

Questions and reasoning:
My source is telling me that he just runs Test C 500mg split 2 times EW for 15 wks and then uses Arimidex if gyno, bloat etc. occurs during cycle @ .25mg-.5mg EOD and he also just uses Arimidex for his pct at .25mg- .5mg EOD. Thats it.

PCT: To me, I dont think that is quite enough. Reason Im hear asking. I have done a little research on using Arimidex only for PCT and it has been done but I also read of possible rebound. I don't want that and want the smoothest cycle I can get. I don't want to feel shutdown or any of the sides that tend to come with that (anx, depression, lack of motivation and low libido, F*** that), been there, done that. So PCT is of most importance to me and I strive to put the most I can into it to keep that "on" feeling and keep my gains. Lets face it.. normal, just isn't fun either haha.

I added Formastanzol, Post cycle, and Unleashed to my pct to obviously bring me back to normal but I don't know if they will be enough. (has always for other cycles, but I feel this is a little more intense) I know its said to be by some but I just don't know. I added Torem for the reduced sides over Clomid or Nolva. And I'll have Arimidex that I can always resort to if it turns out that that will suffice. Too much? Help here please.

Mk is in there because I love it and it works great to help retain gains and keep that gooood feeling.

CYCLE: I included Hcgenerate on cycle to try and keep myself from shutting down as much as possible. I realize that this may not be enough (was for other oral cycles though). Would you recommend getting real Hcg instead? I would inject Sub-q as opposed to IM and would dose at 500iu 2 times a week for last 4 weeks while on cycle (depending on if my balls have shrank that bad or not). Matter-a-fact Id inject as soon as I see signs of atrophy but I have also read of desensitising of the Leydig Cells and I deff dont want any complications here so any help is much appreciated!

I included Formastanzol as a light AI to hopefully keep any sides in check and not have to resort to Arimidex. I have never run anything that aromatized so this will be new to me. I do know that estrogenic sides basically just suck to have so what do you think about this? strong enough or too week?

The Krill oil and N2guard, well we all know why they are there. Just good to have for added support on any cycle.

Ok, thats it for now. Please let loose and tell me what you think. My stuff is on the way and I'm way excited to try this out! :evil:

ps. diet is clean and from Biohazardmass.com. Im on the GetBIGstayLean diet. Basically its 7 meals a day with a ton of chicken, Sirloin for dinner every night, a weight gainer 2 times ed. rice, lots of good veggies, coconut oil and olive oil. Its a decent diet and one that I use for every cycle. But because it was "sold to me" I don't know if I can post it.
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Looks really well thought out bro...and something close to what I will be doing but with a kickstart oral in the first 4 weeks...or maybe Test Prop. I would agree with Dylan that HCGenerate alone should suffice, but have HCG on hand as a back up...but I honestly don't think you will need it for a test only cycle...and keep it this way, you will make some solid gains if you eat correctly. Kudos on doing your homework here and listening, log this bad boy and let us know how things are going for you, we can assist along the way and it will keep you focused.

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Nice post bro.. For the most part it's not bad at all. Take some of the advice that they gave you. Many ppl might give me shit but I'd say just start off at 300 of test.. I can't see why 300 wouldn't do wonders for you bro. Everyone is different tho. I did 300 and got no sides but got some really good gains..
 
Alright yea, I'll change it a little. Thanks for the Input!

Test Cyp: 250mg Mon & Thurs (500mg Ew) Source says its 300mg/cc so less I do some really technical stuff it'll be 300mg ew or 600mg ew
Arimidex: .25mg-.5mg EOD if gynecomastia, bloat or any other sides occur.
HCGenerate- 5 caps ED
Formastanzol- 5-7 pumps 2 times ED
N2Guard- 7 caps ED
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED

Hcg: if needed @ 250iu Monday & Thursday

Post cycle:
liquid Torem- 90/60/60/30
Formastanzol- 5 pumps reduced to 3 pumps 2 times ED
Post cycle- as recommended
Unleashed- as recommended
Krill Oil- 2 caps ED
Multi-vit- as recommended
No2- Yoked or equal to it
Creatine Nitrate- as recommended
Mk-2866- 12.5mg ED

Arimidex: if needed @ .25mg-.5mg EOD

Only question for now... Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection correct?
Ill stay on krill oil, start my norm Multivit, start MK-2866 the day after my last injection. Think I should start Post cycle and unleashed here to for a smooth transition? or wait on those till 2 weeks?
Ill start the rest 2 weeks after my last injection.

Thanks again
 
Great cycle. This needs to be the starting cycle printout. Instead of all these fools with tren and decca on first cycles. You have done your homework. I just ran close to the same just a few shorter.. You will be happy.
 
I would wait to start ostarine until your pct actually begins... wait to start everything until the two weeks following your injection bro.... I will say, I LOVE osta in pct and you will absolutely love it.... your dosing is spot on and damnit im just happy you did some good homework! you ever need anything, let me know!
 
Ok,

Log Officially started as of 6/07/2012.

Last night was my first injection EVER... I about lost it and turned pale white, felt faint, and basically had a mental break down. Even with all the Blood tests etc that I have had... This still freaaaked me out. lol and I had a buddy do it for me. Needless to say my other 2 friends running the exact same cycle are did it themselves and were completely fine. So it was all in my head. Don't laugh haha

Did 150mg... Im going to run it at 300mg ew for the first go around I think. I could decide to up the dose to 600ew but for now this is where I'm staying at.

Feeling:
All I feel is a stiff, sorta sore ass cheek lol and I feel like I have more energy but I'm positive its got to be the plecebo effect kicking in and knowing me with a mind like I have I'm pretty sure thats it.
 
Any problem running arimidex @ .25mg eod though out cycle to keep lean? Ive read up on it and I feel it is but I want to make sure. Im still wondering if forma is going to be enough to keep my estrogen at bay. I know im not taking a crazy amount of test but still.

Are we allowed to discuss brands? For the sake of the log id like to have it here so everyone is on same page.

Thanks
 
3rd shot today at 150mg. (.5ml on the syringe, 300mg/ ml is the concentration of my test).

I feel fine other then feeling a little lathargic for 2 days after injecting seems to be an issue. Is this normal?
My sex drive has definitely gone up and confidence as well. Could be plecebo.

Been taking arimidex eod at .25mg. Im going to drop it to e3d because I feel sore joints already!

Had a friend on the exact same cycle have a huge anxiety attack the night of his injection (he injected in the morning). I highly doubt that it was the test and was more from just him actually having a bit of an anxiety issue. Neither me (and I had it before pretty bad) nor my other pal (theres 3 of us on same cycle now) had any issues what so ever.

So far no real noticable "pumps" or gains. Just a bit of anger and less emotion. Nothing really notable except if the gf cries I'm much less likely to deal with it. Could be a host of things that brought me to that point tho.
 
Well I'm cut down to 178lb and incline benched 230lb for 12 on my 4th set yesterday. Somethings working :)

Just wondering, I'm sure it will lean me out a bit but with the increased test levels will this help reduce my mid area belly fat? And by how much. I'm 10.5% bf and I literally just can't seem to get rid of this little stomach. It's probably the most irritating thing I have going on. Diet diet diet, I know but no matter what I do Its there still. And now on cycle I'm eating heavily.
 
Hardcore abs cramping today. Did one hanging leg lift and it felt like I ripped and ab in half. Stopped, stretched, pushed thro it and wall now I feel like I ripped all of my abs, what's up with this?

I had to leave it hurt so bad.

I'm:
Upping my water intake
Starting on taurine ASAP. Cuz this shit killed my work out

Anyone know why this could happen?
 
its a typical side effect so dont freak out.

how much water do you drink? you might need to go up near 2 gallons.
simple carbs pre workout might be making it worse as well

taurine will help start w/ 5g and see how that does.
 
Thanks... Im drink near a gallon ed. I need to up this. And I just stopped the Arimidex and switched to my previous plan of formastanzol. I think its just to early to be using that arimidex. It really dried me out. Could that have been the issue?

Thanks
 
Blood Pressure way up regardless of using n2guard and krill oil. 150/93.. not good. Any suggestions?

Im pretty sure this is normal but I just want to hedge against High blood pressure the best I can. My thoughts are its because of water retention. Im back up to 184lbs now thats 6 lbs in a week. I also stopped taking my fat burners so that could have something to do with it for sure. No puffy nips or bloat feeling. My guess is that my estrogen is higher then normal causing my body to retain water and thus causing the high blood pressure. I think it might be time to hop back on the arimidex. Im on formastanzol at 10 pumps 2 times a day but I feel like it might not be strong enough if estrogen is the reason for my high blood pressure. Thoughts are welcomed!

Otherwise I'm killing it in the gym. Endurance is way up... libido is up, confidence.. etc all the goodies that come with more test. I feel great! other then that high Bp hanging in the back of my mind.

Thanks.
 
rage22 said:
Blood Pressure way up regardless of using n2guard and krill oil. 150/93.. not good. Any suggestions?

Im pretty sure this is normal but I just want to hedge against High blood pressure the best I can. My thoughts are its because of water retention. Im back up to 184lbs now thats 6 lbs in a week. I also stopped taking my fat burners so that could have something to do with it for sure. No puffy nips or bloat feeling. My guess is that my estrogen is higher then normal causing my body to retain water and thus causing the high blood pressure. I think it might be time to hop back on the arimidex. Im on formastanzol at 10 pumps 2 times a day but I feel like it might not be strong enough if estrogen is the reason for my high blood pressure. Thoughts are welcomed!

Otherwise I'm killing it in the gym. Endurance is way up... libido is up, confidence.. etc all the goodies that come with more test. I feel great! other then that high Bp hanging in the back of my mind.

Thanks.
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PM stevesmi and discuss BP with him...he can help you bro. Good job so far, injections will get easier.

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You might try adding in some Taurine also. It will help for any muscular cramping and can help to bring the BP down also. Make sure you are drinking enough water as well. 1-1.5 gallons a day minimum is what I recommend on cycle
 
I wouldn't trust 1 blood pressure test. yes your bp is gonna jump on AAS, test will do it for me everytime. i would keep testing your blood pressure and not at the same source. i've gotten my blood pressure tested at doctors before and it was 190/110 or some ridiculous number with one of those stupid wrist monitors, then they used a manual blood pressure test 3 minutes later and i came out 118/77.. did my blood pressure really drop that much in minutes or was it just an innacurate reading? obviously it was innacurate, which is why i never trust 1 test.

its not like you are overweight.. you are pretty skinny at 6 foot and 180 and change. unless you have existing heart issues with it doesn't sound like you do. so i would blame just a bad reading.

up your N2guard a few extra tabs in the mean time, it can't hurt.
 
125/80... Resting bp. Not bad! Guess getting back on the and dosing 9 n2guard tabs worked.

Now my next prob, feel lik I have something stuck in my throat, test side effect or did a pill get stuck? I don't always take them with water. Been this way all day.

Also got a mild sore throat and what seems to be an ulcer in mouth, side effect? Or just a bug? I'm thking the later.

Otherwise the libido boost off this stuff is incredible! Gf loves it
 
I seem to be getting a real rounded look to my physic. Im def holding some water and this lower belly fat is really in my nerves. I cant seem to get rid of it. I have started doing fasted cardio for 40 min ed.

I talked w my source and he recomended adding in masteron, priviron or t-3... Suggestions?

Says I can pin masteron at same time as my test cyp? Same pin. Just draw ok one and then the other. Change tops and inject.. Thoughts?

Im also planning on running winny @ 50mg ed orally for last 4 weeks. will these stack well?



Strength is sky high right now. Im at the beach nd getting a ton of attn but I just feel like the definition is not so lean.

Thanks for the help guys!
 
Im on arimidex .25 eod as well as forma @ 10 pumps 2 times ed.

I think I just want a more cut look. Diet is number one, and also was the first to go this week while Ive been on vacation. Still hitting gym hard though ed.
 
Seem to be feeling a bit lethargic during the days lately. Might be over reacting but I'm feeling dead tired at times and yawning like crazy, taking long naps etc. I had summed it up to be because I was "growing" or the fact that Im pushing my body pretty hard. Naturally, I looked into it more and found this http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/feeling-lethargic-cycle-wtf-707583-2.html. Guys running much more then I but I'm just wondering do I need to be supplementing with dhea or anything else to combat lathargy?

Common symptom?

Thanks guys
 
Ordered Masteron. Going to run it at 400mg Ew along with the Test Cyp at 475-500mg Ew.

My weight is up, I'm 191 this morning but just look more rounded, fuller, like my skin is thicker. Not really a bad thing, I just want the opposite lol. I realize its probably all diet at this point. That said I'm not going to hinder any muscular gains by not eating and trying to stay lean. That would pretty much negate the idea that my goal is 200lb and lean under (10% bf). Gotta bulk before you can cut. I feel I'll hit 200lb on this cycle no problem but being able to be lean at that weight seems like a distant goal right now. No big deal. It takes time.

Killin it in the gym. Military pressed 275lb for 3 in my shoulder Workout. Thats NEVER happened b4! Sweating my ass of wherever I go and the Gf likes the sex, but hates the new tude that I apparently have. I don't notice it and I don't think anyone who does'nt know I'm on does, lol. But it seems everyone who does is telling me that I have a much shorter fuse >:-).. I just feel like I'm maybe more unwilling to take peoples crap anymore. Not a bad thing in my opinion :).
 
rage22 said:
Ordered Masteron. Going to run it at 400mg Ew along with the Test Cyp at 475-500mg Ew.

My weight is up, I'm 191 this morning but just look more rounded, fuller, like my skin is thicker. Not really a bad thing, I just want the opposite lol. I realize its probably all diet at this point. That said I'm not going to hinder any muscular gains by not eating and trying to stay lean. That would pretty much negate the idea that my goal is 200lb and lean under (10% bf). Gotta bulk before you can cut. I feel I'll hit 200lb on this cycle no problem but being able to be lean at that weight seems like a distant goal right now. No big deal. It takes time.

Killin it in the gym. Military pressed 275lb for 3 in my shoulder Workout. Thats NEVER happened b4! Sweating my ass of wherever I go and the Gf likes the sex, but hates the new tude that I apparently have. I don't notice it and I don't think anyone who does'nt know I'm on does, lol. But it seems everyone who does is telling me that I have a much shorter fuse >:-).. I just feel like I'm maybe more unwilling to take peoples crap anymore. Not a bad thing in my opinion :).
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Any acne at all thinking of running cyp my self ?
 
Theres a lot of reasons for elevated blood pressure, most of them posted prev. in this thread. One major reason Bp goes up when juicing is increase in red blood mass, your blood thickens as red blod mass increases, so it's like pumping honey instead of water through a hose, you should check Bp 5, 10, as many times as you think about it in a day. Readings vary quickly so you have to establish baseline. Spikes normal when juicing so watch closely, lot of good advice already posted by others, watch water retention, when you hear and feel your heartbeat when youre resting, evaluate compound intake, alittle thick blood, usually not a major issue, too much time with Bp elevated, can def cause problems. Ride that cycle like you're gonna leave it on the side road, ride it as hard as safety will allow!
 
Strong as hell. Put up military 100lbs dumbells x 6 times on 5th set yesterday, used to struggle w/ 80s b4 cycle.

Now to questions. Balls seem to have shrank considerably even with hcgenerate at 5 caps ed. This past week where my gaims really started, my balls seemed to gdt hit and my libido seemed to really drop. Seems to be becoming harder to keep it up. Tried with the gf this morning even after it was up b4 and I was half mast then nothing... Not fun. Im sitting in labcorp right now getting a full panel mid cycle test. My guess is,that with the masterone, formastanzol and adex @ .25 ed... Ive probably killed my estrogen? Thoughts please?

I will post results in a day or so. Gains are coming almost ed now. Byt I want to get back to bangin my girl 4-5 times a day like I was in beginning of cycle. My mind is sound but my lil man just isnt the same.

Thanks for the help!
 
O and I have 5000 of hcg on hand. Should I start tht to bring my boys to full size again? The have lost a ton, but I can fit in one hand now lol and gf said something.
 
Well cant tell if it was in my head or not. MY stuff seems to work... but it just isnt the same. Here are the results from my blood test. Again, with LH and FSH being so low... should I start up real hcg? It seems to me that even at 6 caps ed of hcgenerate, it is not enough. Isnt hcenerate supposed to stimulate these 2 horomones so that you dont become shut down?

Thanks
 
Well after much research and for the sake of who ever wants to read this lol. I found my gear to be under dosed. I fixed the mild ED problem by adding a little more adex to the mix .33mg (1/3rd) pill vs. .25mg (1/4th pill) eod and now am back to rock hard. So I'm pretty sure that my estrogen was a bit high, at least for me.

Im in end of week 8 right now and strength has never been better. I'm adding weight literally everyday to all of my lifts. Getting the "look" in the gym by the bigger older guys which is just very funny to me. I try not to go too crazy with it but it is fun to pick up the biggest dumb bell the gym has and toss it around while the guy next to you is struggling with less weight but is bigger then you haha. Ton of fun there and the girls... well lets just say I see why a lot of guys just don't want to come off. I feel awesome, have a ton of confidence and look better then I ever have. So I'm happy, even if the gear is under dosed.

I'm looking to run some HCG @ 250iu 2x ew but am unsure on the time frame, time on it, and when to come off as of yet. My LH and FSH are 0 so im shut down to the ground at this point and I'd like to make going into pct as smooth as possible. Any help here?
If not I'll find out and post back my plan and course of action.

Other then that I'm looking into non-sexual hormone related peptides and research chems that I can run in pct to help retain the gains in strength, body recomp, and size. Of course I'll post back my plan here to. So far R3igf-1 from Greatwhitepeptides.com has my attention. And of course mk-2866 @ 12.5mg ed...

Thats it for now. Thanks for following along.
 
Considering running test cyp for 16 weeks total because it took a long time to kick in and I'm really finally starting to see the gains. Another reason for considering this is that I would like to see what the masterone can do once its fully kicked in for a while and actually run for a decent length of time.


Hcg Course of action...

250ius 2x ew my last 3-4weeks of cycle. Followed by 500ius Ed for the 2 weeks after last pin leading up to first day of pct.

Considering adding nolva into pct mix. Still in the air with this as I really think my PCT is solid.

Good read on using HCG. I found it helpful.
(http://forums./showthread.php?508178-Shorter-mild-cycle-less-or-no-need-for-HCG#.UBlFP44qNok)

Let me know if what I have proposed sounds good.
 
Started hcg 250iu mon thurs.

In end of week nine. Feel fine. Want my crazy libido back. I hope this hcg can help
With that.
 
Yeap, do.t know how else to really judge when the hcg is kicking otger then to say that my balls huuurrrrrt right now. They are comin back! Woohoo to that. Id probably have to say that hcgenerate alone isnt enough on cycle to keep your (at least my) boys from shrinking. I think that it is a great supp and a must have on cycle but is to be used in addition to real hcg. I havnt felt my balls ache like this since my first true cycle. Since then its been mostly phs which hcgenerate dose a terrific job of keeping me from becomeing shut down. Def helps to keep surpression down even on a harder aas cycle. But like I said, I dont thk its quite enough. Maybe a higher dose?
 
Bit of anxiety tonight. Nothing crazy. Guessing estrogen related?

All things the same in cycle.

Test cyp/euth 175/175 @ 500 ew
Adex .33mg eod
Hcg @ 250iu 2 times ew
Hcgenrate @ 5 caps Ed
Krill oil
N2guard
Formastanzol 10pumps Ed.

I feel good otherwise. Looking forward to the dreaded pct soon. It seems gains have slowed. I'm going to stop at 12 weeks. The minimal gains from a 16 weaker just don't seem to make sense. And I'm ordering some liquid cialis because my little man just isn't the same right now.
 
Ended cycle. Mild infection guessing from the shot. Pin sight swollen but going down.

Great gains, Extreamly excited to come off so I can see what i have put on annnnd I'm also siked because it means I'm close to getting to start back up again... in like 6 mths :evil: And starting is my favorite part!

Question, Should I continue Hcg at 250iu 2x ew up until the start of pct? So for the next 2 weeks?

Thanks and Bloods are attached. My new source is LEGIT! woohoo
 
10 days post last injection. Feel great. Strength is still up, I feel my endurance has decreased a bit. Libido high still.

Started unleashed, post cycle, no2, cialis ( because of vyvance use), still on n2guard and krill oil which I will stop on day 14 and switch to fish oil and a once a day multivit. Also I have started mk-2866 at 12.5mg Ed. Day 14 I will also start torem 90/60/60/30.

Blood test on day 14, and every 2 weeks after until I'm back. I want to log this right and watch myself come back. Should be interesting.
 
Thanks for the log, it's been interesting to follow. You've inspired me to get bloodwork done throughout my cycle too. Looking forward to your results from the Torem and seeing how quickly you get back to baseline.
 
Ok,

Here are my Bloods 2 weeks after last injection. I will be getting another blood test after week 1 of PCT and probably everyweek after until fully recovered just to make sure I know whats going on. Having a test of 289 and LH and FSH of 0 still kinda freaked me out a little and even though I expected it, I want to make double sure that My pct is working.

I also added toco-8, beta-alanine and DAA from NTBM to my pct today so well see how this all goes. Forma was reduced to 7 pumps 2xed. All the rest is laid out.

Ps. Cialis and all this pct stuff IS INSANE on libido and erections. I literally cant nut for some reason the same as I used to but when I do... Its literally a face FULL for my GF. Absolutely Crazy!

Also have Clen on hand and intend to use it 20,20,40,40,60,60,80,80,100,100,80,80,60,60,40,40,20,20 mcg (thats by the day dosing) roughly starting week 2 of pct.
 
So I came off 08/24/2012. It's now 10/25/2012. Here are my bloods 2 mths post. I'm fully recovered. Test is low but my norml is 280-350 range and this was taken at 11:30am.
 
Very good log, enjoyed following it. What would you say about the unleashed/post cycle, forma and the HCGenerate? I am actually about to start that stack and I'm hoping it does me well.
 
I love the products. I used these too
Come off cycle and feel awesome the entire time. No real feeling of coming off. Smooth transition is all I can really say about it. You'll be happy
 
rage22 said:
I love the products. I used these too
Come off cycle and feel awesome the entire time. No real feeling of coming off. Smooth transition is all I can really say about it. You'll be happy
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Good to hear man.

So what were your final stats after PCT. How much weight did you gain/keep? How much strength was kept as well?
 
Coming off cycle at end of pct I was 186. So a gain of 6-8 lbs. bf went down 1% so probably more was gained. After cutting for the past month am back to 176-178lbs but with a completely different look. Can see v lines, all abs, broader shoulders, thicker upper body and legs. It was a worth while cycle I'd say. I felt great on it and can't wait for my next. I just started a log on the forum but I won't officially start for at least another month. 3 on 3 off w bloods is what I'm going to do. I've been off for 8 weeks.

Next cycle is test, mast, tren low dosed and anavar. Along with all of the ancillaries needed and my above pct.
 
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