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I will shut up I am a dumb ass. Now vote on what has been the best oral aas for you so far
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Isn't anadrolic anadrol?
blooddrinker69
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I didn't know anadrolic was just anadrol I though it had some sort of other compound mixed in. It was listed with anabol and i'm guessing anabol is something different. Could the future voters please list some reasoning if possible for there answers. I thought anavar would win in a land slide, but I am pleasently suprised to see votes for the masteron and halo. That is why the explainations would be very beneficial for me. Thank-you very much for all of the people who made their selections. I hear great reveiws of beastdrol but your really going to say you like it better then these real deal compounds listed. Its great to promote but this is a serious thread for me buddy.
brandonp005
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^^^And RADAR gave you a serious answer. Beastdrol @ 30-40mg/ED for 4 weeks will give you unbelievable gains.
i have ran anavar and dieselbolan and sawbeter gain with the dieselbolan and not to mention it was way cheaper and legal.....deiselbolan hands down..oh and by the way it is the real deal. Just look up the ingredients.
RADAR
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blooddrinker69
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Well I don't need any of those reccomendations on this thread. I posted a poll in the AS forum because I was interested in the choices I had listed. If I had a question about supplements I would have went to that forum. I also know about the ingredients to those products and other products made by different manufacturers which are the same exact product. If you guys want to price shop any of those products just copy the ingredients and paste them to the google search bar. You will find tons of different manufactures to choose from for the same thing. I am entitled to my opinion even though this thread will be edited by the monitors. I like the real deal stuff you can keep your prohormones all day every day.
blooddrinker69
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Respect then I'm glad to see you let me put my opinion up. Thank-you.
blooddrinker69
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Mabey my vision was scewed. Before I found a good source I was always looking for pro-hormones and stuff to assist me with my weight lifting goals. I have tried a few diff prohormones on the market and reasearched most. When the beastdrol and stuff like that hit these forums I went to the site. I took the ingredients to 19-tren-tfo and google searched it. Cyclo-tren popped up and it happened to be a product under my sink. I had decent results on the stuff and was not un-happy with the purchase. From then on I just figured all the products were just clones of other products currently available from other manufactures. Also, I ordered some of the protien bars from the site and thought they where a rip-off. Basically just oatmeal and other common ingredients that can be thrown together easily for a fraction of the price. So after that I just wrote the products off and paid no mind to the people who were talking about them.
However, after my poll was perpetrated I figured I had better be able to back myself up and started researching. I found that beastdrol is not available from other manufactures (currently) and neither are the other muscle building products on that site (at least to my knowledge). Also there were new products now available which look good to me.
I have heard alot of good things about beastdrol. Should I pay 60 bucks which is more then what I would pay for the real deal anabolics I don't know. However, I am going to either use it in between cycles as a stand alone product or incorperate it into my next cycle. I am also going to try that forged post cycle in the cycle I am coming off now. That way the next time someone perpetrates I can give an answer that is the true one for me. It is the only way I will know for sure if I like the stuff better then the other orals on this poll or if it even compares. I would rather have 60 less in my wallet and be able to give a definitive answer next time. I also might pick up some of that joint repair stuff because during this cycle every morning when I awake my knees and ankles are killing me and mabey this product will help that. I feel the people behind that site are extremely reputable and have taken their advice since I joined here and I am going to continue to do so and try these products out for myself.
However, after my poll was perpetrated I figured I had better be able to back myself up and started researching. I found that beastdrol is not available from other manufactures (currently) and neither are the other muscle building products on that site (at least to my knowledge). Also there were new products now available which look good to me.
I have heard alot of good things about beastdrol. Should I pay 60 bucks which is more then what I would pay for the real deal anabolics I don't know. However, I am going to either use it in between cycles as a stand alone product or incorperate it into my next cycle. I am also going to try that forged post cycle in the cycle I am coming off now. That way the next time someone perpetrates I can give an answer that is the true one for me. It is the only way I will know for sure if I like the stuff better then the other orals on this poll or if it even compares. I would rather have 60 less in my wallet and be able to give a definitive answer next time. I also might pick up some of that joint repair stuff because during this cycle every morning when I awake my knees and ankles are killing me and mabey this product will help that. I feel the people behind that site are extremely reputable and have taken their advice since I joined here and I am going to continue to do so and try these products out for myself.
I have a feeling you will find that Beastdrol compares very well to the first substance you mention in your poll. In fact, I bet its effects are almost identical hehe.
(This is assuming that by 'oral masteron' you mean masteron that has a methyl group on the 17 alpha position to make it orally active)
(This is assuming that by 'oral masteron' you mean masteron that has a methyl group on the 17 alpha position to make it orally active)
blooddrinker69
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winny tabs already on hand n i prefer t-bol to d-bol because I don't need to bulk much. I am not against bulk as you can see by my choices, but I can't run t-bol and d-bol together and I choose t-bol when choosing between the two. So, by the answers received I'm thinking either anavar or anabol. I'm also thinking about the masteron. When I say oral masteron I don't know the exact science of what it is. Alls I know is its mast taken by a pill. Looking for any info or experience with the choices listed on the poll only.
REFORMATA
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Not trying to "perpetrate"
But I'm on beast right now...and I think you'll enjoy it. I am an endurance athlete, and not trying to gain size-just strength and stamina. I get very pumped very fast. So, I am mainly focusing on my speed/elasticity of my muscles, and brute strength. Incline bench (reps) have gone up from 185 to 225. And that is 2 weeks. My diet is insane right now also, to which I attribute my success in part.
Question: how do you like the tbol? I am interested in this for cycling this fall....
But I'm on beast right now...and I think you'll enjoy it. I am an endurance athlete, and not trying to gain size-just strength and stamina. I get very pumped very fast. So, I am mainly focusing on my speed/elasticity of my muscles, and brute strength. Incline bench (reps) have gone up from 185 to 225. And that is 2 weeks. My diet is insane right now also, to which I attribute my success in part.
Question: how do you like the tbol? I am interested in this for cycling this fall....
I was assuming that by oral masteron, it meant 17aa masteron (kind of like dbol=17aa EQ) but reading some old posts, I see there have been a few things called oral masteron in the past, including proviron.
Anyways, beastdrol is masteron (without the ester of course), with a methyl group on the 17alpha position. And of course, that methyl group makes a big difference (ie: EQ vs dbol).
If we would all use IUPAC nomenclature, we could avoid these ambiguities. haha j/k
Anyways, beastdrol is masteron (without the ester of course), with a methyl group on the 17alpha position. And of course, that methyl group makes a big difference (ie: EQ vs dbol).
If we would all use IUPAC nomenclature, we could avoid these ambiguities. haha j/k
lmao!
No ones going to edit your thread. Most people will just ignore you now because they all know you do not want real advice. They know you do not know your ass from your elbow when it comes to a steroid ether.
The fact you called them sups means you have no damn idea what you are talking about.
REFORMATA
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needtogetaas
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there now we have a real list lets vote on it.
Epi-strong and helladrol! This is the most info I've heard about your new products beyond 'new products coming soon'
Very excited about this, and I know they'll be some kickass products! When ya gonna tell us more detail on what else you got coming out, needto?
damn yer the man!
Very excited about this, and I know they'll be some kickass products! When ya gonna tell us more detail on what else you got coming out, needto?
damn yer the man!
Burpees
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you forgot to add Sex.
seriously, I have an appt with my endo today I expect him to ask me to do some blood work so I want to wait till then to run my bottles of 19-tren/beast/epi.. I'll be back, im sure this thread will run for a long time.
blooddrinker69
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I guess this forum's sole purpose now is soley to peddle prohormones. I did not post this thread to give anyone advice. I was asking a question which I guess you can't ask about real orals on here anymore. All of those products are nothing but crap and no true weightlifter or athlete would take them unless thats all they could get their hands on. You guys can shove them up your asses. I could care less about being banned from this site because it is no longer a means of research or advice for me or anyone else. If any of you internet tough guys tried speaking to me this way in person I'de pin you down and force feed you a cock meat sandwhich. So you guys can sit on your back vaginas and type all the trash you want and get away with it. Don't be mad at me because I have a real job and don't need to try to trick people on the internet into buying overpriced bs supplements that cost more then the real deal. So we will see if you edit this queers. Banned and don't care. Long hair don't care.
abomb555
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OMG your fucking kidding me you really do have you head up your ass lolI guess this forum's sole purpose now is soley to peddle prohormones. I did not post this thread to give anyone advice. I was asking a question which I guess you can't ask about real orals on here anymore. All of those products are nothing but crap and no true weightlifter or athlete would take them unless thats all they could get their hands on. You guys can shove them up your asses. I could care less about being banned from this site because it is no longer a means of research or advice for me or anyone else. If any of you internet tough guys tried speaking to me this way in person I'de pin you down and force feed you a cock meat sandwhich. So you guys can sit on your back vaginas and type all the trash you want and get away with it. Don't be mad at me because I have a real job and don't need to try to trick people on the internet into buying overpriced bs supplements that cost more then the real deal. So we will see if you edit this queers. Banned and don't care. Long hair don't care.
micksnowdog
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poor fuck, wants to join in and start a convo/ask a question and he gets spammed and slammed.
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whatspopping
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i do like elite, but i do worry now that its just a billboard for beastrol and all those creams that you have to rub in and shit. you have to be careful i think, because all of a sudden tbol or anavar, chlomid and nolvadex are shit because why not buy beastdrol or that weird pro-hormone cream. i dunno, its hard for newbs to find forums that aren't heavily endorsing something. somewhere this lab is amazing, somewhere its shit - somewhere this source rips you off, somewhere its amazing, how do we know who to trust ? if someone asked on this board whether 8 weeks of anavar & pct of nolvadex was better than 4 weeks of beastdrol and sustain alpha, or whatever those products are called, what would the answer be ?
abomb555
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yes what you saying is very true a lot of pushing gos on here....the irritating part is when someone doesnt know what there talking about starts running their mouth .......honestly if your never tried a mountain-dew would you get on here and start running your mouth trying to tell us that we are retards and mountain-dew isnt the real thing! and where can i find a dr.pepper cuz i KNOW thats a caffinated beverage "the real deal"
needtogetaas
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That was not the reason he was banned.
Guys everyone here knows I allow all the members to speak there minds. The mods allow every member the right to debate and talk about what they want.
So long as they do it with some level of respect.
Now him arguing the fact about a product is fine. I hope more people do it... You see if no one ever question the products then there woild be no long threads and a bunch of talk about the products. People questioning or having a different opinion is a good thing. It makes for long threads that poeple get interested in and look at. Its great advertising. So giid or bad about any product sold by any sponsor on this site please I encourage you to voice your thoughts.
IN a respectful manner. I mean is a simple rule and I think we all like this rule. All of us like to be spoken to like an adult. We do not want some flam site.
SO on to the real reason this man was banned. Out of the blue he sent a pm to my (needtobuildmuscle.com) account. His pm went something like this
title (suck my cock)
You can suck my dick, I wish nothing but the worst on both you your wife and your kids. If your parents are alive I hope they die...
^^^^^^^^^
And that was the reason he was banned. I will take a screen shot of the pm and post it for everyone to see.
Now that is why he was banned. Because people who speak like that to anyone on this site are not welcome here.
People have a right to speak there mind so long as they do it with taste and respect. As long as what they are saying is not attacking and trying to hurt some one with words. We just do not allow this on ef.
Now as for advertising.. Every site has it and the bigger a site gets the more it will have. You will notice the mods and myself move threads about products to the sups forum all the time.
Behind the seens in the mod forums and the mentor forums we talk about this subject all the time. We talk about how we need to clean it up a bit and move some threads around... We have set rules on how many threads a sponsor has in a forum at a given time and many other aspects of the subject.. We all work together as a team to bring together the best site we can for the members.
As for if you asked the question
what is a better cycle 8 weeks var with nolva pct or 4 weeks beast with sustain pct... If you asked that question you would get many different answers. I love that fact about if... But if you would like to be on a site where you would only get 1 answer to that question then ef is not the site for you...
one thing I will say. (for the most part and as much as we can all help it here) when you do ask the question. The people answering you will be respectful to you. They will give you the answer they truly feel as a person is the right answer.
A lot of times they will ask what your goals are and try to find out more about you so they can give the best answer. The people here want to help you before anything else and they give you the advice they truly feel is the best..... Because this is the type of people we draw to the site. Helping people and people who care.
Though you may get 20 people say beast and 10 people say var. Some will ask your goals and some will just agree with others. No matter what we are all in it together here and we are all allowed to have our say on the subjects brought up..
Follow the rules. That is it. No where in the rules of the site does it say you have to like a product or a sponsor. No where in the rules does it say you are not allowed to say "hey I think beastdrol sucks"... You may be asked by others to explain yourself and things like this. But its not against the rules by no means. Its welcomed!!!!!!
The reason you will see more people saying good things about a product on a site that the sponsor sponsors is because more people on that site have used the product.
Its crazy to think a sponsor could make money if it was paying hundreds of people to talk good about a product. NO its just simple. More people have used the products because its a sponsor so you will get more feed back about it.
BUT in no way do I or any other mod delete threads and or post of some one saying a product like lets say beastdrol is no good or they did not like it..... In fact if you look there is a few threads and post of people saying this for one reason or another. I could fine them all in seconds. I know the site and I know where these post and threads are every second of every day.
You get a little of everything from a little of all different kinds of people on ef. And all of it is done with respect. All of it is done together with friends, family, and others who do care about one another.
I do my best to put the members of this site first. So do the mods,the mentors and the vets of ef. We may miss the mark once in a wile. I may drop the ball once in a wile. But I do the best I can for you guys..
thank you.
micksnowdog
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haha fair enough, i laughed when i read the pm he sent you. but i do understand what you must've been thinking there.
needtogetaas
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lmao Ya it was like all out of the blue and shit too. I was like holy fuck its been like what 5-6 months since some ones talk to me like that. Caught me off guard. My first reply was. (hey good bro whats bothering you and how can I help)......His reply to that (fuck off and die) so Hey I gave it a honest shot.
hd heritage
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needto you got some thick skin bro...props to you. handled with class. you just have to ignore ignorant
2DIEZEL
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lmao Ya it was like all out of the blue and shit too. I was like holy fuck its been like what 5-6 months since some ones talk to me like that. Caught me off guard. My first reply was. (hey good bro whats bothering you and how can I help)......His reply to that (fuck off and die) so Hey I gave it a honest shot.
LMAO......sounds like you made a friend for life..
BlackIron220
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REFORMATA
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I know exactly what superdrol is like.
And you would be wrong on the oral mast. It does indeed exist.
You didn't answer my question at all bro....
How does mast compare to beast in these general areas:
Strength
Hardness/definition
Mass/nitrogen retention/weight gain
Also, in regards to keepable gains?
And you would be wrong on the oral mast. It does indeed exist.
You didn't answer my question at all bro....
How does mast compare to beast in these general areas:
Strength
Hardness/definition
Mass/nitrogen retention/weight gain
Also, in regards to keepable gains?
BlackIron220
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strength/mass/weight gain is greater with "superdrol". with injectable mast, id say hardness/definition is greater (at lower bf%)
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whatspopping
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dont wanna hijack the thread, much, but do some people literally actually have thicker skin than other people? some guy i train with probably has body fat percentage at least 5% higher than mine, much less fit, but his veins are visible, mine never are and my skin all over seems 'thick' somehow, whats that all about !?
micksnowdog
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i believe that has a lot to do with sodium intake
hd heritage
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bro, what i meant by my post sayin needto got some thick skin was that that guy, the op, was talking all that hate shit to needto & instead of needto talking hate shit back to him he responded with "bro wats bothering you, how can i help you". When someone talks shit to you & you dont get mad about it thats refered to as having "thick skin". I didnt mean that his skin was "literally" thick.
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whatspopping
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haha hd, i did get that, which is why i said something like do some people literally actually....etc etc. i only asked because you metaphorically saying he had thick skin, reminded me that im sure my skin ACTUALLY is thick, i would say i was reasonably fit and have a lowish bf % but see NO veins apart from very very faint in my forearm. mad one.
REFORMATA
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Lol. No, your answer sucked. Didn't realize I had to spell it out for you. Most bros know how to answer a question like that. I think you may have been talking about something you know nothing about, which is why you're acting the way you are.
Lol. This cracks me up.
Lol. This cracks me up.
needtogetaas
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LOOK you seem to have a bit of a aptitude bro. You are acting like a jerk in a thread where I am spelling it out to everyone we do not act like jerks on this forum.... I am going to ask you nicely one time to cut the shit and speak to people with respect please.
Thank you
REFORMATA
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You know what bros
You're right.
I'm having a tough morning at work.
My last post was out of line. I apoligize.
Imh0813 sounds like an intelligent guy, and I figured he had some more info on the statement he made about "methyl mast acts completely differently than inject mast"
I just wondered, how is it different?
Again I'm sorry, I feel like a dick.
You're right.
I'm having a tough morning at work.
My last post was out of line. I apoligize.
Imh0813 sounds like an intelligent guy, and I figured he had some more info on the statement he made about "methyl mast acts completely differently than inject mast"
I just wondered, how is it different?
Again I'm sorry, I feel like a dick.
REFORMATA
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Haha. My best friend just left last night for the air force, don't know when ill see him again.
I'm feelin pretty short-fused/on edge today. Sorry
bros..
But a big LOL at the "are you on clomid?"
comment
That made me stop and think...damn I'm acting like a pussy
Haha bravo imh0813
I'm feelin pretty short-fused/on edge today. Sorry
bros..
But a big LOL at the "are you on clomid?"
comment
That made me stop and think...damn I'm acting like a pussy
Haha bravo imh0813
REFORMATA
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Dang bro...sorry to hear that..I bet you miss her...
My buddy and I have been best friends since age ten, literally.
So I feel angry at the world...lol
I need to start carrying a flask...instead of a rubberband around my wrist, ill just take a swig when I feel my aggression start to rise
Lol.
You're a good bro.
My buddy and I have been best friends since age ten, literally.
So I feel angry at the world...lol
I need to start carrying a flask...instead of a rubberband around my wrist, ill just take a swig when I feel my aggression start to rise
Lol.
You're a good bro.
REFORMATA
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Thanks man...you're a swell bro as well.
I definetly try not to drink whilst on cycle as a general rule, as I'm sure you do.
Since we are discussing orals...you ever tried halo? I'm seriously considering that for a short run next time I plataeu....
And keep me updated on the gf man....
I definetly try not to drink whilst on cycle as a general rule, as I'm sure you do.
Since we are discussing orals...you ever tried halo? I'm seriously considering that for a short run next time I plataeu....
And keep me updated on the gf man....
REFORMATA
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Bro! You've got my number.
I KNEW you were an intelligent guy!
6 weeks is exactly what I was thinking. That's what I did beast and katana for, and I've been off 2 weeks and JUST HIT A PR today.
Weird right?
But awesome!
So you say halo is good for fat loss whilst following a recomp diet? Like keto?
Hmm...interesting sir!
Okay, let me ask you this...what steroid, inject or oral, gave you the best keepable strength gains my friend?
Key word being keepable! I got soo much strength on dbol...but lost it ALL
Tragic bro...tragic...and embarrassing!
I KNEW you were an intelligent guy!
6 weeks is exactly what I was thinking. That's what I did beast and katana for, and I've been off 2 weeks and JUST HIT A PR today.
Weird right?
But awesome!
So you say halo is good for fat loss whilst following a recomp diet? Like keto?
Hmm...interesting sir!
Okay, let me ask you this...what steroid, inject or oral, gave you the best keepable strength gains my friend?
Key word being keepable! I got soo much strength on dbol...but lost it ALL
Tragic bro...tragic...and embarrassing!
needtogetaas
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perfect. Then you should all know I have a run of a product called (helladrol coming out this month.. its is 50mg halo and pure as all my other products.. 50mg caps 90 caps per bottle and same price as all m other products. free shipping and a discount.. Best to just wait till that product is out and get a bottle well it last.
needtogetaas
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most halo is dosed at 25mg and people will run it anywhere from 50mg ed to 150mg ed
I made a 50mg cap that is dosed perfect and pure. double the compound per cap and 30 more caps per bottle then most halo products out there. with the discount its only like 20 bucks tops more then the others. for lets see 25 more per cap and 3 more caps. so triple the amount of product and more pure.
You can run it 1 cap 2 cap or 3 caps a day depending on your level. If you have never used a product like it before try 1 cap. If you have used things like it or halo before then run 2 caps and if you are advanced run 3. its pretty simple.
Yes 100mg of it ed is fine. People run it as high as 150-200
informer112
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Dbol and anavar are hands down the best orals.
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ALIN
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ANADROL and ANAVAR,,,my two favorite orals.
HugeLifter
Head Mango
Half of this shit seems made up.
I like dbol for bulking.
I like dbol for bulking.
needtogetaas
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ya face is made up.
georgebushkush
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I think it's safe to say that beastdrol is british dispensary's bitch when it comes to orals I mean come on the people who voted beastdrol have never tried good androlics or dbol.
BlackIron220
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Good honesty here. i appreciate it
rikishi
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Have you ever used Beastdrol?
Nomadic Dreamer
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I like anavar because its pretty mild and works great. Not looking for insane gains, so I'm fine with that and some EQ.
UN Soldier
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I don't really class Proviron as a Steroid, it is extremely limited in its Steroidal Applications.
BlackIron220
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yeah i agree. proviron is considered a aas though right? never tried it. i hear mast is much better anyway
BlackIron220
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thanks bro. hahaha
I didn't see M1T, that has imparted the most dramatic gains of my life thus far over all my years of anabolic use.
ghettostudmuffin
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dbol.
I have used anavar, m1t, 1ad, and a deca precursor ph.
M1t was very powerful. Unfortunately even at the recommended dosage it made me feel like dog shit. Felt lethargic, insane low back pumps, high blood pressure.
I still get insane low back pumps with dbol, but I feel great on it. Strength goes up very solidly and best of all my muscles fucking blow up on the shit after about 2 weeks. I have to keep an eye on salt intake with dbol, but otherwise it's all good.
I have used anavar, m1t, 1ad, and a deca precursor ph.
M1t was very powerful. Unfortunately even at the recommended dosage it made me feel like dog shit. Felt lethargic, insane low back pumps, high blood pressure.
I still get insane low back pumps with dbol, but I feel great on it. Strength goes up very solidly and best of all my muscles fucking blow up on the shit after about 2 weeks. I have to keep an eye on salt intake with dbol, but otherwise it's all good.
True... it seems all worthy anabolics force us to keep a close eye on our BP - I can take a headache every now and then if it is accompanies with ten pound of pure new-found muscle, but when it gets to the point all I want to do is take a nap and rub my temples.
satanismymotor
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Got to go with the dbol although i have to try epistrong and from everything i read it is amazing! I am looking forward to trying that.
I'm voting DBOL at present. I have tried epistrong, dieselbolan (2.0), Beastdrol and a couple of combinations of each. Beastdrol made me feel very lethargic. DBOL makes me feel good. Epistrong, doesn't do much, although I do get some strength gains. I'm thinking of running it in combo with Dbol. I ran Diesebloan 2.0 and Epistrong once and liked the results but it took about 2 weeks before I could tell that I was taking anything. At least with DBOL you start to feel it right away. I'm going to try some Winstrol in the spring. I might mix it with Katanadrol 2.0 just to see if that helps with the cutting.
I picked anavar, I stayed lean & mean and got strong as FK, unbelievably strong for my weight, 200lbs. Much beyond 200 and being a USMC infantryman gets real difficult. besides I'd rather know I earned my gains over a long time, not overnight. 1 year ov anavar my bench went from 250-430 and I still have a liver.
beastdol is the best oral out there hands down, only neg is the sides.For lean muscle gain without alot of shitty water gain, it cant be beat!
BStumpf619
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beastdrol is definitely legit. I ran it @30mgs/a day for 4 weeks and gained almost 20 lbs. no joke and I held on to about 17 of those after pct. I didn't necessarily notice crazy strength gains but you can't deny the fact at the end of the week when the scale is 5-7 lbs more than at the beginning of the week. I did feel lethargic as hell on it tho. I will probably run it again with some forma or something along those lines to prevent that. solid product. nonetheless
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This ^^^ I got huge on this.....side were a little rough but nothing else ever gave me the gains the beast did!!!
Ezskankens
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I choose dbol.
my body just loves winstrol... i respond extremely well to it, even at a low dose... i can get 5-10 lbs. with winstrol and drop body fat and its shredded gains... I also see nice strength gains... If I had to pick just one oral to use, it would be winstrol...
banana monkey
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wheres t-bol? keep the rest...
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