Advice: Starting Cycle #2

[mrplunkey]

37 years old, 237 lbs, 10% BF. Lifting off-and-on for 20ish years -- currently on a 8+ year lifting "streak"

Use History: Did a small cycle (test cyp at 200 mg/wek for 10 weeks + 4 IU's HGH/day). Good PCT, no complications.

Currently on HGH @ 4 IU's/day (5 on, 2 off)

Goals: Break long-standing bench plateau of 340 x 1... thinking 370-390ish; Currently squatting 495 x 8 but not bottoming out (missing 2-3 inches) -- want to bottom them out.

Concerns: Don't necessarily want to gain more than 30 lbs on cycle, or 15 lbs long-term. Would like to keep BF in the 10%-ish range but can increase during cycle if necessary.

Fears: Gyno, deca dick

Weeks 1-2

Test 250 @ 250 mg/week
Deca at 450 mg/week
HGH @ 4 IU's / day (5 on, 2 off)

Weeks 2-10

Test @ 250 mg/week
Deca @ 450 mg/week
Winstrol @ 50 mg EOD
HGH @ 4 IU's / day (5 on, 2 off)
Anastrozole @ 0.5 mg EOD

PCT 10 days after last test/deca injection:

Clomiphene @ 150mg ED for 10 days (I'm verifying this... may be a misprint)
HCG @ 1,000 units ED for 10 days
HGH @ 4 IU's / day (5 on, 2 off)

What do you guys think? I'm not looking for a crazy-agressive cycle -- this is my second run and I'd like to ease into this.

Thanks in advance,

 

[Ulter]

I would suggest changing your deca to NPP, a fast acting nandrolone. Take the winny daily not EOD. Your gains at your current weight will not hit 30 pounds, especially if this is your 2nd cycle. But you should do very well with that.

 

[BigAndy69]

I would go with Ulter suggestion and use 200-250mg of NPP every 3 days for 6-7 weeks instead of Deca.

I would also start the arimidex from the very beginning.

 

[mrplunkey]

Thanks much!

I'll look into getting NPP instead -- fantastic advice. The write-up I was given on this stack was "Nandrolone Decanoate" -- I'll try to get that swapped to Nandrolone Phenylpropionate.

I'm doing this through an "anti-aging" service (long story short, I can't risk doing anything illegal) and they won't let me do more than 50 mg Winny EOD. It didn't bother me that much, since Test makes me a little brittle anyway and I've heard Winny can be hard on joints too.

Would a 250 Test / 350 Deca ratio be well clear of deca-dick risk? I've heard that running Deca alone is a total no-no, but is 250 test gtg?

 

[BigAndy69]

I doubt you will be able to get NPP legally but I may be wrong.

You could always up the test to 375 or so

 

[badslinky]

Huh, so Dubol-100 from BM couldnt be obtained legally?

 

[BigAndy69]

Huh, so Dubol-100 from BM couldnt be obtained legally?

Well, BM is supposetely a pharm company from India so I don't think it is FDA approuved. You can get steroids legally prescribed if you have low test levels. It's very expensive and I don't think NPP is part of the short list you can get from a doctor in the US

 

[help4john]

Would a 250 Test / 350 Deca ratio be well clear of deca-dick risk? I've heard that running Deca alone is a total no-no, but is 250 test gtg?

I have found that it is best to keep your Test dosage higher than Deca dosage. A ratio of 2:1 Testeca would definately work....but I have been successful with 500mg Test and 400mg Deca. Just keep the Test mg higher than Deca and you should be good to go!

Good luck!

 

[mrplunkey]

Well, BM is supposetely a pharm company from India so I don't think it is FDA approuved. You can get steroids legally prescribed if you have low test levels. It's very expensive and I don't think NPP is part of the short list you can get from a doctor in the US

I checked with the service that I use and yes, NPP isn't approved in the US.

I use one of those anti-aging services because I have to keep a lily-white record. The jobs that I typically do have a lot of background screening and even the most minor wrist-slap associated with seroids would be ugly.

Thanks,

 

[Judo Tom]

so long as you have at least 200mg of test you should be fine.. should no gaurantees

use the winny at 25mg a day

read up on pct i think your pct plan is not as effective as your cycle.. i also prefer nolvadex to clomid (both are legal in us)