posted June 06, 2000 06:25 AM         

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There's a BB show coming up in October, and i've been forced to take a long hard look at my physique in order to zero in on weak points.After seeing pictures of my back it became obvious that i lack middle thickness.My lats are pretty wide from chins and my lower back is thick from squats and deads.I had been doing rows in the belief that that would thicken my inner middle back but they haven't done the trick.Anybody have the same problem?

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posted June 06, 2000 10:31 AM            

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yep i had that one to, i used dbrows, undergrip� bb rows and pulldowns with the handle you use for cablerows, and everything really heavy, that helped me.

Bluesy

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posted June 06, 2000 05:46 PM            

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Seated rows
lat pulldowns using the seated row handle
T bars

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posted June 06, 2000 09:28 PM            

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BIG DADDY T BAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROWS ARE THE BEST FOR FILLING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BACK TRUST ME

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posted June 07, 2000 04:56 AM         

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T-bar rows seem to be a favourite, i'll give them a try, thanks for the suggestions bro's.

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posted June 07, 2000 06:56 AM         

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Make sure you squeeze your shoulders blades together - this really works the middle

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posted June 07, 2000 02:22 PM            

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Dorian rows hit low and mid back excellent exercise.

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posted June 08, 2000 11:29 AM         

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Steelsoldier, could you explain what Dorian Rows are? I haven't heard of them before.

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posted June 08, 2000 12:24 PM            

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You probally done them already but they are said to be by Dorian Yates what gave him his impressive spread. Simpley do them like barbell rows but a reverse grip with your arms about shoulder width apart, if done correctly it really hits your mid and lower back hard!

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posted June 08, 2000 02:17 PM            

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but the "dorian" rows, can be pretty tuff to hit the upper mid back with, but no doubt when learned they are perfect

Bluesy

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posted June 08, 2000 04:35 PM            

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Bluesy thats true. But if you switch to a overhand grip and bend over more to a 105 degree angle you can hit the upper portion of the back.

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posted June 08, 2000 06:23 PM            

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i got the same prob,
i think ill start doing some more close grip rows too see what happens too,
thanx guys

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posted June 08, 2000 06:23 PM            

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i got the same prob,
i think ill start doing some more close grip rows too see what happens too,
thanx guys

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posted June 08, 2000 06:23 PM            

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i got the same prob,
i think ill start doing some more close grip rows too see what happens too,
thanx guys

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posted June 09, 2000 04:07 AM            

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thats right steelsoldier, i can do "dorian" rows correct so no prob there, but it took alot of practice, but when you shift to overhand, then its all upper/mid back and quite easy to do, but no longer dorian rows.

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posted June 21, 2000 12:07 AM            

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You want to hit the rhomboids and the middle and lower traps,rows are good but there are more effective ones.

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