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omer123456
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 19, 2000 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for omer123456   Click Here to Email omer123456     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 44771405
HI, i'm Omer, I'm 15 y/o
I'm looking for someone that could guide me
threw icq(#:44771405)

I have some questions like:
I'm still developing should I go to the gym, ect...)

please help me........

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omer123456
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posted May 19, 2000 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for omer123456   Click Here to Email omer123456     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 44771405
please someone.......

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Steelsoldier
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posted May 19, 2000 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelsoldier     Edit/Delete Message
I say wait 2 years to hit heavy iron it won't benifit you too much, your body is not mature enought to build alot of muscle. Take the time now to develope a firm grasp on the form of exersises and other training methods. Goodluck!

"The more you sweat in training the less you bleed in battle"

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eagledude
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posted May 19, 2000 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eagledude     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68446686
what the hell are you talkin about??? when you are 15 is probaly one of the best times to start. the male body should still be goin through puberty and is producing ungodly amounts of test. it is very very easy to pack on muscle mass when you are 15 and you will have unbeleiveable strength gains

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mossberg
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posted May 19, 2000 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mossberg   Click Here to Email mossberg     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 73892752
o, see if your high school offers any kind of weight traing class as a gym elective, mine did. This will be a great start and get you up to speed on proper form and all the types of exercises out there. I definatly think your ready to work out, just remeber that it takes time and consistancy. Stick with it and you will be glad you did!

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StevieD
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posted May 20, 2000 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StevieD     Edit/Delete Message
Eagledude - steelsoldier is right. You damage your bones and joints if you lift too many weights when you are still young because your joints and bones have to formed fully.

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eagledude
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posted May 20, 2000 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eagledude     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68446686
then how come our strength coach at school who has been bodybuilding and powerlifting for about 30 yrs says that when u are 15 is the best time to start. and our trainer says that also. hmmmmmm? tell me why

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StevieD
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posted May 21, 2000 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StevieD     Edit/Delete Message
did your coach give a shit about your joints when you reached 40?

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eagledude
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posted May 21, 2000 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eagledude     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68446686
hahahahaha your funny. You know how many reports there are out about teenagers and bodybuilding, and guess what they all say, they say that weightlifting actually kind of promotes bones growth and joint strength!

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StevieD
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posted May 21, 2000 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StevieD     Edit/Delete Message
Show me one of these reports then. Over here in the UK the don't exist.

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StevieD
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posted May 21, 2000 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StevieD     Edit/Delete Message
Show me one of these reports then. Over here in the UK they don't exist.

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eagledude
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posted May 21, 2000 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eagledude     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68446686
they were all in magazines that I read in the store, it might take me awhile to find one on the net cause i don't know where to start lookin

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bignate73
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posted May 21, 2000 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65081685
damage your joints and bones? what?
there is nothing to say that strength training done responsibly and intelligently at a young age will be detrimental to a younger person. especially one hitting puberty. that would be the ideal time to start. sure the long bone growth is still going on, but we arent talking about putting someone on androgens to stop that growth. just good eating and solid training. im not talking a full bodybuilding 5 day routine but a 3-4 times a week (2on1off2on2off) for overall strength and endurance is completely viable. if a sound diet is followed this can be a quite effective time for strength training.

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StevieD
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posted May 22, 2000 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StevieD     Edit/Delete Message
Right lets get this sorted. If you train sensibly and responsible during puberty you will improve your body (if combined with a good diet and some cardio). The problems arise when young men try to become bodybuilders at 14 and 15 years old. I agree that some weight training is beneficial, the problems start when kids start trying to lift heavy weights and overtrain. This leads to joint and damage problems. Unless you have good advice from an experienced coach or fitness intructor, most kids train wrongly. To avoid this scenario, I generally advise kids to take it easy and wait a few years. In the mean time they should do some light, basic movements and eat well. All this talk about kids being "testosterone factory" who should train like mad is detrimental.

Training with bad form and too much weight is damaging what ever age you are, but the problem is exacerbated in pubescent kids. If you read postings on this board, most kids want to be like their idols (Dorian, Arnie, Ronnie etc). Rather than encouraging potentially damaging training (which is what would ensue if you give kids bodybuilding training advice, most of the time), I would rather cover my bases and advise kids to leave if for a few years. At least then the risks of joint damage are reduced.

All just my 2c of course.

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Dr Huge
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posted May 22, 2000 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr Huge   Click Here to Email Dr Huge     Edit/Delete Message
I live in the UK as well. Not that it is relevant of course. Anyway bodybuilding when you are fifteen is bad because it stunts your growth completely. You cannot grow two ways at once.

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Stone
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posted May 22, 2000 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stone   Click Here to Email Stone     Edit/Delete Message
I would think that it is a matter of food resources or calorie intake. As long as a growing body receives enough protein to go around it would stimulate both bone and muscle growth.

The problem I believe is when a young person is growing they may not eat enough protein. Chances are teenagers will most likely eat nothing but sugar/carbs and their diets lack sufficient resources.

Saying in general that exercise, whether it is bodybuilding or swimming, stunts bone growth would be a stretch without knowing the particulars of the individual. Diet would be a huge factor in such a case and a conclusion would be pure speculation.

I would also like to point out that the greatest body builder to date started lifting weights at a very young age and is just over 6 foot with a ~55 inch chest and ~25 inch arms. The Oak ate nothing but round steak. I would not be the one to tell Arnold to his face that what he did was a bad example to hopeful young body builders.

[This message has been edited by Stone (edited May 22, 2000).]

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