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pvitor
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted January 31, 2000 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvitor     Edit/Delete Message
would like to start stack and will like to take orals for obvious reasons. Is dianobol any good by itself and if not what should be stacked with as an oral stack?

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macrophage69alpha
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted January 31, 2000 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
Winstrol and anavar and primo are good orals to stack with dbol as most of their action is related to AR stimulation and binding- which dbol is not it works most by NON AR mediated means.

THAT BEING SAID- STOP BEING SUCH A PUSSY- ORALS ARE NOT NEARLY AS SAFE AS INJECTABLES AND THEY ARE INEVATABLEY A HELL OF A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE- AND UNFORTUNATELY MOST ORALS ARE NOT VERY EFFFECTIVE- DBOL AND ANADROL BEING THE EXCEPTION(for some people winny is effective)-BUT THESE ARE KIND OF HARSH DRUGS FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS LITTLE OR NO EXPERIENCE WITH ANABOLICS

START WITH TEST, CLOMID, AND MAYBE A LITTLE DBOL. IF YOU DO DECIDE TO TAKE THE DBOL FIRST TIME OUT TAKING IT BYSELF IS PRETTY GOOD BUT MAKE SURE TO TAKE CLOMID-DBOL IS NOTORIUS FOR SUPPRESSION OF NATURAL TEST SUPPRESSION.

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WarLobo
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 01, 2000 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
Would you, could you, please state your "obvious reasons" for an oral stack only.

Late

Lobo

p.s. and listen to Macro

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naprox
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 01, 2000 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naprox   Click Here to Email naprox     Edit/Delete Message
Inject or don't play the game!


Hey I am pretty sure Stanozolol works by non-AR mediated mechanisms the same as D-bol. I know primo and deca, et al work differently.

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macrophage69alpha
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 01, 2000 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
YES STANOZOLOL DOES WORK BY NON AR MEDIEATED MEANS, HOWEVER IT ALSO BINDS WELL TO THE AR- IN THIS RESPECT IT IS LIKE TEST, HOWEVER WITH A WEAKER ANABOLIC AND ANDROGENIC POTENTIAL. PLUS MANY BELIEVE-MYSELF INCLUDED- THAT WINSTROL SEEMS TO WORK WELL ONLY FOR A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION PERHAPS RELATED TO VARY EFFECTS IN NON AR MEDIEATED EVENTS AS WELL AS RECEPTOR BINDING- BUT AGIAN ITS JUST THEORY.
AND IT IS 17-ALKYL WHICH MAKES IT HARDER ON THE LIVER.

OH YEAH, I ALMOST FORGOT IT ALSO ACTS AS AN ANTI PROGESTIN SO MAY BE ADDED TO A STACK TO COMBAT PROGESTINIC EFFECTS OF ANADROL AND DECA.
PEACE

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