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NPCPRO
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posted January 28, 2000 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NPCPRO   Click Here to Email NPCPRO     Edit/Delete Message
mine is designer protein, great shake i drink 3-4 a day along with 4 cups of whole milk and just chug a lug lug lug! great source of protein!

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2Thick
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posted January 28, 2000 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
For taste, Designer is the best, but I just buy in bulk from protein factory. I would (and have tried) drinking tuna shakes, so taste is not as important as nutritional value. Plus, I get to put some L-Glut in my protein and choose the flavor. Not to mention its much cheaper than Designer.

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tray renfro
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posted January 28, 2000 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tray renfro   Click Here to Email tray renfro     Edit/Delete Message
i love designer, just toss in a banana and its much better then it plan. i can all my supplements at a vitamin/health food store and they sell it for 20-30% cheaper then any gnc.

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HARDBALL
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posted January 28, 2000 01:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I got this protein fro my gym...it's called American Whey. Ever hear of it? anyway, 2 scoops of this whey and about a cup of either orange drink or strawberry drink and it's the best think since sliced bread...i had designer protein before, but it was pretty clumpy...guess i should invest in a blender huh?!?!?

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macrophage69alpha
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posted January 28, 2000 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
choc. designer 2 scoops (70)cc
choc. champion heavy weight 900 1 scoop (70 cc)
cup and a half of milk
2 scoops of chocolate vanilla swirl dreyers fat free frozen yogurt.
yummy
56g of protein

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WCP
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posted January 28, 2000 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message
Designer Protein is great stuff, but I buy in bulk also, and I usually go through Maxmuscle but Supplement Direct has been running protein at 5$ a lb. Its really nasty but like stated above, I dont care about the taste, its the protein Im after, plus if you mix it with milk you really cant taste it anyway.

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madbomber31
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posted January 28, 2000 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
you guys have no idea what your missing... designer tastes like cardboard compared to cytopro... hands down the best protein i have had... also a good one is xap human muscle protein, its a mrp but still counts.
cytopro tastes like strawberry quick... with water too!!!

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ArnoldWannaBe
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posted January 28, 2000 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArnoldWannaBe   Click Here to Email ArnoldWannaBe     Edit/Delete Message
My favorite is 100% Whey from Optimum Nutrition. Mix it with skim milk with a spoon and it tastes like chocolate milk. No lumping, 5 lbs. for $38.00, two scoops gives you 40 grams of protein and 8 grams of glutamine. For taste, cost, ease of mixing, protein availability I feel it can't be beat.

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brians
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posted January 28, 2000 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for brians   Click Here to Email brians     Edit/Delete Message
My fav. is also 100%whey from optimum, however I get 5 lbs. for $23 from my local health food store. Hell of a deal!

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shaonuff
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posted January 28, 2000 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shaonuff   Click Here to Email shaonuff     Edit/Delete Message
the power store has a good deal on whey protein. i think they had an abbundance of strawberry flavored whey.....they're selling 3lbs. for 11$.they call it internet whey. i bought four of them....12lbs of whey for 44$ can't beat that. tastes like strawberry quick.

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Dino Strong
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posted January 28, 2000 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dino Strong   Click Here to Email Dino Strong     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 60905516
You guys should try Soy Protein. It has a real place in bodybuilding because of its fat burning properties and anti-estrogen effect.

Please read this excerpt from the EF newsletter on the benefits of Soy protein.

Soy Protein Isolate benefits for Bodybuilders

Animal research suggests some great advantages of using soy protein
isolate as a bodybuilding supplement. Research has shown that the
isoflavone daidzein found in soy-protein isolate might have a gender
specific normalizing effect on sex-hormone production. Lab animals
experienced testosterone and growth hormone excretion as well as muscle
growth in males, while the female animals experienced a decrease in these
hormones and fat loss.


Daidzein, which is concentrated in Mass Quantities Chrysin Deluxe, is also
found in Mass Quantities Soy Isolate Deluxe. Daidzein is a key isoflavone
found in soy that acts as a potent phyto-estrogen. It is structurally a
very weak "pseudo-estrogen" (about 1000 times weaker than the body's
primary estrogen estradiol). This is good news to the bodybuilder because
weak estrogens like daidzein will compete with stronger estrogens like
estradiol for available receptor sites to "bind" to. By binding to the
receptor sites daidzein then "blocks" the stronger estrogens from binding
to and activating receptor sites. With the daidzein isolflavone attached,
estrogen receptor sites remain inactive. This inactivity further minimizes
the negative effects of estrogen in the body. Many researchers believe
this effect is the reason soy protein is linked to a reduction in the risk
for many forms of breast, endometrial, and prostate cancer. This mechanism
works similarly to the prescription drug Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate)--an
anti-estrogen staple in the bodybuilding community.


This research also indicates that the soy-protein isolates may reduce
nitrogen loss and keep you in a positive nitrogen balance to better
facilitate muscle growth. The human body can only repair and build
muscles when it has a positive nitrogen balance.


Of particular interest to the bodybuilder is Soy Isolates high
concentration of the amino acids glutamine and arginine. These two aminos
are extremely important to a body builder for their ability to release
growth hormone, aid in immune system functions, and for their ability to
speed muscle cell recovery.

Table 1. Glutamine (per 100g)


Soy 10.5g
Milk Protein 8.8g
Whey 4.9g


Many bodybuilders understand the importance of the essential amino acid L-
glutamine to their muscle building supplementation. What many
bodybuilders don't know is that soy protein isolate has the highest
concentration of glutamine among protein sources-over twice that of whey
protein! (7) Glutamine has been used for years in hospitals to speed
muscle cell recovery and improve maintenance of muscle mass during periods
of starvation, infection, and exercise trauma. (8) Glutamine
supplementation has been shown to promote muscle glycogen accumulation,
which has been linked to an increase in muscle protein synthesis. (10)
Glutamine has also shown the ability to increase muscle cell volume
through the process of cellular hydration. (11) Glutamine supplementation
in as little as 2 grams per day has been shown to increase plasma growth
hormone levels. This increase in growth hormone has been shown to help
shift the fuel for muscle from glucose to fatty acids. (9) Research has
suggested that a bodybuilder should consume between 8 - 15 grams of
glutamine each day. Supplementing 3-5 grams of glutamine 3 times per day
has been shown to elicit a positive response without stimulating the
excretion of glutamine in the urine.


Table 2. Arginine (per 100g)


Soy 7.6g
Beef 6.3g
Egg 5.8g
Cassein 3.7g
Whey 2.9g


L-Arginine is another important amino acid with respects to body building.
Arginine plays several roles in the body such as fighting mental and
physical fatigue, but its main job is to assist with growth. This amino
acid promotes the release of two highly anabolic hormones, insulin and
growth hormone. Arginine promotes gains further by assisting in recovery
from post workout muscle trauma through its ability to speed tissue
healing. This amino acid aids in the detoxification of the liver by
removing ammonium from the body. Arginine has also shown the ability to
lower LDL cholesterol and triglyceride levels in the blood. Arginine is
used in the medical treatment of angina, congestive heart failure, male
infertility and wound healing. Soy isolate protein contains higher
amounts of this important amino acid than any other protein source.


As a hard training bodybuilder, your body needs protein every 2 -2 1/2
hours even if you may not think you need it. The human body does not
store protein long term as it does for fat and carbohydrates. Instead,
your body holds amino acids in three pools that provide the body's
necessary protein for fuel. These pools are constantly in a state of flux
and are replenished either from dietary protein or the breakdown of
muscle. It is extremely important to keep these amino acid pools topped
off through the feeding of protein every 2 - 2 1/2 hours. When feeding
stops, there is a fall in protein synthesis and a rise in protein
breakdown. This translates into a loss of lean body mass after extended
periods without protein.


Soy Protein Isolate for Dieters


For years, bodybuilding gurus have recommended the use of soy protein for
pre-contest bodybuilders who need to shed body fat while keeping as much
lean muscle as possible. Normally when the body is forced into a low
calorie diet program, it reacts by slowing down your metabolic rate. This
will make it increasingly more difficult to lose body fat. Soy-protein
isolate helps lessen this effect through several different pathways.
First, soy-protein isolate has been found to enhance endogenous production
of thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH), thyroxin (T4), and triiodothyronine
(T3). Thyroxin is the main player in the regulation of your metabolic
rate. The more thyroxin you have the faster your metabolism will be.
A faster metabolism insures that more of the food you eat will be used as
fuel and less will be stored as fat, an important advantage to any dieter.


Another way soy accelerates fat loss is with its unique concentration of
amino acids. Soy-protein isolate has the highest concentration of amino
acids in what is called the "critical cluster". This cluster of amino
acids contains the three branch chain amino acids (BCAA's) and two
essential aminos - glutamine and arginine. These critical amino acids
help a bodybuilder spare muscle while losing body fat during a pre-contest
diet. Any time you diet, your body tries to break down muscle glycogen in
an effort to provide the body with more calories. In fact, your body will
often try to use broken down muscle for fuel before it uses stored body
fat. This is called muscle catabolism or muscle breakdown. These three
branch chain amino acids are the first amino acids that are used for fuel
when your body begins muscle catabolism. If you have a high amount of
these branch chain amino acids in your diet, your body will first use
these for fuel before it breaks down your stored muscle.


The Health Benefits of Soy Isolate


Now that we know that soy is a quality protein source, what health
benefits can soy protein bring to its consumer? The intake of soyfoods
has long been associated with a reduced risk for certain cancers.
Research has suggested that phytic acid and protease inhibitors, two of
the nonnutritive compounds in soybeans, contribute to the observed
anticarcinogenic effects of consuming soy. (1) Residents of the United
States and the United Kingdom, as a whole, consume the smallest amounts of
soyfoods but have the highest instances of breast and prostate cancer.
Japanese residents in comparison are the largest consumers of soyfoods and
have the lowest instances of these cancers. (3) Researchers point to the
isoflavones genistein and daidzein, which are found exclusively in soy and
soy protein isolate, as the major components behind soy's anti-
carcinogenic effects. (2)


Soy protein isolate has shown the ability to promote bone health, which in
turn aids in the prevention of Osteoporosis. Osteoporosis is a chronic
disease characterized by a decrease in bone density, which results in
abnormally porous and fragile bones. It has been suggested that a high
protein diet may increase the excretion of calcium in the urine, which can
lead to this health condition. Studies have shown that not all proteins
have the same effect on calcium excretion. Compared with animal protein,
soy does not result in an increased loss of calcium in the urine thus
promoting a more optimal calcium balance. (4) In addition, the
isoflavones in soy protein have been shown to increase both bone mineral
content and bone mineral density which will improve the health of
abnormally porous bones. (5)


Soy protein isolate has shown the ability to effectively lower LDL
cholesterol and triglyceride levels in the blood. Experts agree that
these cholesterol-lowering effects can be achieved through the consumption
of as little as 25 grams of soy isolate protein each day. The experts
point to the high levels of the amino acid arginine for this lipid
lowering effect. (6) LDL cholesterol is one of the primary factors behind
progressive atherosclerosis. This medical condition is caused by the
progressive build up of plaque that clogs blood flow in the arteries.


Soy protein has also shown the ability to improve kidney function. While
scientists agree that the high protein intake of bodybuilders is necessary
for proper muscle building and repair, they also agree that this diet will
place additional stress on the kidneys. Studies of both humans and
animals have shown that soy proteins filter more easily in the kidneys
thereby reducing their workload. In 1993, a study was performed on the
Romanian Olympic swimming and rowing teams. In this study, the athletes
were supplemented with 1.5 grams per kg of bodyweight of soy protein along
with their dietary protein (2 grams per kg of bodyweight) per day. This
additional protein showed no detrimental effects on kidney function and
actually showed from 5 to 46 percent improvement in kidney function.

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MR 250
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posted January 28, 2000 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MR 250   Click Here to Email MR 250     Edit/Delete Message
MY PERSONAL FAVORITE IS N-LARGE, BY PROLABS. TASTES SO VANILLAISH, I LOVE IT. OH YEAH, AND IT ALSO HAS 52 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER SHAKE, 89 CARBS, BUT 4 GRAMS OF FAT. PROBABLY NOT THE BEST OUT THERE, BUT IT AGREES WITH ME, AND THATS WHAT COUNTS. I HAVE PUKED OFF OF MET-RX.

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OKIE
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posted January 28, 2000 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OKIE     Edit/Delete Message
I don't mind Designer Protein, but I like BodyLean Protein made by Advocare. It's pretty much mail order only, but my trainer made me a distributor and now I get 30% off. It's definitely the best tasting protein I've ever had.

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Les
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posted January 28, 2000 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Les   Click Here to Email Les     Edit/Delete Message
they all taste like ca-ca

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w8liftr
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posted January 28, 2000 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for w8liftr   Click Here to Email w8liftr     Edit/Delete Message
Protein factory is the whey (HA HA) to go. You pick types of protein, carbs, or fat, you pick flavor, you pick sweetner! Prices are great and you know what you are getting!

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mr bod
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posted January 28, 2000 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mr bod   Click Here to Email mr bod     Edit/Delete Message
PROLAB WHEY 5 LB BUCKET OUT OF PRO SOURCE HAS BEEN MY FAV FOR A COUPLE YRS

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andrebrazil
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posted January 28, 2000 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrebrazil   Click Here to Email andrebrazil     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 1952121
My favorite on is RX Fuel from twinlab

the taste is so smoth that you can mix it with anything yogurt, fruits, milk and it won't alter the taste that much.

This way you don't get tired of taking it.

Andr�

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flexed1
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posted January 28, 2000 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flexed1   Click Here to Email flexed1     Edit/Delete Message
Hands down the best is ISO PURE Chocolate.

There protein mix has no carbs and 50 grams whey.

There meal replacement low carbs, 50 grams whey.

This stuff ROCKS.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted January 28, 2000 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
I like Isopure also but for some reason it is not widely available

It mixes real good
PB and CHOC is very tasty
I dont really like orange creamsicle though

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vdevil
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posted January 28, 2000 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message
I wunder y none has chosen precision protein? Their chocalate tastes fuking awsome. Its expensive as hell, but my friend works at G.N.C and flows me tubs of it every couple of months

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scourge
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posted January 28, 2000 09:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Sci-Fit makes a line of protein that is awesome. I'm a big fan of the Banana flavor.

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ASAP
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posted January 28, 2000 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ASAP   Click Here to Email ASAP     Edit/Delete Message
My favorite is Pro-Performance from GNC. Okay Okay - just kidding. Get off my back Macro. I just couldn't resist!

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carlos7
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posted January 28, 2000 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carlos7   Click Here to Email carlos7     Edit/Delete Message
I used to have Ultimate Protein, I change it for Whey Tocotriene, so far so good carlos

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Mr. Everyday @ The Gym
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posted January 28, 2000 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Everyday @ The Gym   Click Here to Email Mr. Everyday @ The Gym     Edit/Delete Message
N-Large2 and Actisyn. I really like Actisyn because it only requires 8 / 10 oz - and I only drink my shakes with water so taste is important.

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SICKBOY1974
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posted January 28, 2000 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SICKBOY1974   Click Here to Email SICKBOY1974     Edit/Delete Message
WHATEVER IS LEAST EXPENSIVE

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madbomber31
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posted January 28, 2000 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
actisyn is fuckin sick!!!! i have had all the proteins, and that is the worst i have tried... i do like sci fit stuff.. i think they make a great product... underrated though by many.

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ASAP
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posted January 29, 2000 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ASAP   Click Here to Email ASAP     Edit/Delete Message
act-is-sin is sick tasteing and it made me sick to take it. It sounds good on paper but what can you mix it with to mask the taste? Gas?

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Jumpmaster
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posted January 29, 2000 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jumpmaster   Click Here to Email Jumpmaster     Edit/Delete Message
Another vote for Protein Factory. I haven't found any other protein that comes anywhere near the quality. You can add as much hydrolyzed whey as your taste buds can stand and then mix in isolate. Many of the other brands mostly use concentrate which has a lower bioavailability value.

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Big Tex Levi
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posted January 29, 2000 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Tex Levi   Click Here to Email Big Tex Levi     Edit/Delete Message
Please dont throw rocks at me but i actually like myoplex, ooooouch quit hitting me!!! and i also buy isopure....Has anybody ever heard of DNC...we now have one in Austin Texas and 20 pacs of isopure are only 32.95..not bad...Dnc has beaten every price i have ever been quoted on anything..look for them in the future...levi

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Mr. Everyday @ The Gym
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posted January 29, 2000 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Everyday @ The Gym   Click Here to Email Mr. Everyday @ The Gym     Edit/Delete Message
You guys are pussies, Actisyn doesn't taste the best - the after taste. If you chug it down and follow it with water it's not bad at all. I really think (don't we all) I can notice a difference between that and when I used to order from the Pro. Factory - growth.

Just remember this, use 8 / 10 oz with Actisyn. No more (God, I won't want to drink anymore than I have to) and no less (God, I don't want it to be think also!)

Off season I drink N-Large for the calories. It tastes far better then anything else I've tried.

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quenepo
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posted January 29, 2000 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quenepo   Click Here to Email quenepo     Edit/Delete Message
I'm using pro complex(opt nutri) but after read the large post from Dino I'think the next time try soy protein.


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