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TwinGATs
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted January 25, 2000 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
I did a cycle of Testosterona 200. Week 1-200, 2-300, 3-400, 4-400, 5-200. Week 5 I planned to do 300 and 200 for week 6, but I ran out. It was my first cycle. Now, for my question, I had very little gains. I was wondering why. I noticed the 10cc vial exp date was abr 99 and did the cycle in DEC 99. Would this cause the small gains.

thanks,

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xtreembrn
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted January 25, 2000 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xtreembrn     Edit/Delete Message
well bro, you've probably heard this before, but i'll say it again for everyone new to the game. Juice in itself won't do a damn thing for you without proper diet(probably most important thing) and a good training program. Now assuming you had these variables in check my next assumption is that you gear was bunk/underdosed. while the doses you took were not exactly what I would consider effective, you should have seen something. I will add to this, that I have also noticed that brovell is not as effective for me as tornell. Which did you use? Neither do I know your training backgroud, so pinpointing a cause is problematic. If you want specific help with something let me know and I'll do what I can. da brn

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TwinGATs
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posted January 25, 2000 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
My diet is pretty clean, about 40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat....Workout Monday through Friday, about 1 hour to 2 hours a day. Broke up into Chest/Back, Arms, Legs, then back to the C/B. Mainly I just stick to the main stuff heavy squat, bench, deadlifts. It was Brovell.

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BIGDAWG205
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posted January 25, 2000 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIGDAWG205   Click Here to Email BIGDAWG205     Edit/Delete Message
sup bro, with brovel im pretty sure your shit was underdosed quite a bit. With you taking as little as you did, this could have meant when you thought you were taking 400mg, you might have gotten 300 or possible even less. Usually with t200, i just say fuck it and load up

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chesty
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posted January 25, 2000 10:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hey, I have found that you gotta have at least 3500 good calories a day with at least 1.5gms proteing per pound body weight. (for me any way) You gotta lift like your the meanest sob in the universe and remember the stuff ain't a miracle drug it doesn't happen overnight. You still have to rest and get out of the gym now and then to regroup.

I had been natural for fourteen years and not a small guy either, when I first started using gear I used deca and test cyp. then I switched to sust and sten. after 8 weeks I wasn't near what I thought I would be. But it worked, was worth about 15 pounds. Remember patience and perseverance will pay off in this game.

Chesty

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sjb
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted January 26, 2000 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sjb     Edit/Delete Message
hey bro, i cut to the chase, if the top of that bottle doesn't have brovel engraved on the metal lid, it's not test-200, that shit is bogus! maybe another reason you might not being getting any gains, just had two i gave back to a scammer!! later, sjb

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Buffness
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posted January 26, 2000 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buffness   Click Here to Email Buffness     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 32798055
I don't like the stuff personally. It is underdosed. I don't get near the gains as with cyp. or sustanon. I would pay a little extra and get the good stuff next time. If you can only get vet stuff try deca or reforvit.

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TwinGATs
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posted January 26, 2000 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
It had brovell stamped on it...I figure it was legit...Someone had said it was overdosed before...That probably what it was...

thanks for all of the help

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billy3
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posted January 26, 2000 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for billy3   Click Here to Email billy3     Edit/Delete Message
There is a fake brovel out there that has the writing in the lid. Can tell by checking for glue strips, the real one should have strips of glue on the back of the label. The fake one, the back of the label is all glue. Also on the label of the fake one " Q-0038-131" the real one reads "Q-0036-131"

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vdevil
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted January 26, 2000 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message
Brovel test sucks I've never heard of anyone naving good gains from that stuff. I used schein cyp.(the real one) and that stuff was great. I used the brovel when I ran out and watched my strngth go in the toilet. I think that it is enanthate.

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kpumpin
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posted January 26, 2000 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kpumpin     Edit/Delete Message
Fake, passed, the expiration date, or not you arent going to make any gains off the dosages of t200 you mentioined above. The stuff is underdosed and just a poor product. If you are going with mex products and want test spend a little extra money and get some sust. I personally used the t200 at high doses with minimal gains, and any other tests at those doses i gain well on. Yeah its cheap, but for the most part you get what you pay for.

kpumpin

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scourge
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posted January 26, 2000 04:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message

I noticed that, while you told us the breakdown of the nutrients you consume, you did not tell us the quantity.

If you want to grow you have to eat enough. Quality will only get you so far, quantity is a bit more important. I've known guys who have eaten terribly, but ate tons and made good, solid gains.

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NPCPRO
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted January 26, 2000 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NPCPRO   Click Here to Email NPCPRO     Edit/Delete Message
i got jacked on test200 in like 8 weeks off of 3cc's every 10 days! just load the f@@k up on it! do clean up and two weeks after your last shot dont use bar soap to clean your body acne hits like a bitch then, reason being is that your pores get clogged from the test levels being so high then your pores clog creating acne so use tea tree soap for a month til the acne is slight, trust me it will do the trick!
happy lifting.........

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macrophage69alpha
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posted January 26, 2000 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
Recently,Brovell has somewhat cleaned up its act. Their Norandren 200 seems to be testing at the high 180's to low 190's. You were either using a fake product or judging by the exp date it was an older product that either was underdosed or because of the time, exposure light or heat was even less effective. There are still a lot of Brovell fakes floating around so be careful- I don't think that it helps that many of us believe that the faking operation took place at the Brovell plant itself- though this has not been confirmed. Still brovell is hard to beat for the price and even if it is underdosed just take more.

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MP

[This message has been edited by macrophage69alpha (edited January 26, 2000).]

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BIGDAWG205
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted January 26, 2000 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIGDAWG205   Click Here to Email BIGDAWG205     Edit/Delete Message
just to clear something up that was said earlier. just because it doesnt have brovel stamped on the top does NOT mean its a fake. brovel has merged with tornel (they are father and son companies) and the newer brovels have blue flip tops on them! it used to be that you looked for the stamped in brovel, and i still would if it was an older bottle.. but now they have flip tops with holigrams as well. peace

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