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MS
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 02, 2000 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MS   Click Here to Email MS     Edit/Delete Message
As many of you are aware the Miss O was nearly cancelled this year due to lack of sponsorship. This was taken as a sign to organisers and judges in the IFBB to moderate the grossly masculine appearance of many of today's Pro female bodybuilders. I wholeheartedly support the move to the more natural look, but when I read the revised judging criteria, I wasn't so sure what to think.

In a nutshell, The IFBB judges (and the affiliated national branches of the IFBB) have been instructed to judge female physique competitors based on "not excessively muscular", as well as "attention to make-up and femininity".

So the question I would like to see debated (on this board and many others) is whether female physique competitors will eventually become merged with the figure/fitness competitors? On the surface it seems that the new definition for a physique competitor is not clearly different from the figure criteria. Is female bodybuilding truly a dead/dieing sport?

Opinions?

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The Mad Scientist

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WarLobo
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posted May 02, 2000 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
Ahhh... The hotly debated question is not so hotly debated any more. The facts are simple, no sponsors, no money, no show.

I have seen women�s BB get just too out of hand for the average person to appreciate. Every lady I help in the gym wants to be more fit and loose some pounds, BUT the first thing they say is, "I DO NOT WANT TO LOOK LIKE THEM 'WOMEN' IN THE MAGS." And they are not talking about the fitness ladies either. So now even the legal supplement companies do not want to be associated with them.... Again no money in it.

Will Women's BB die? No, probably not... The question should be, will women's BB grow? And I think we all know the answer to this question.

Late

Lobo

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Texas Guns
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posted May 03, 2000 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Texas Guns   Click Here to Email Texas Guns     Edit/Delete Message
It is a sad day when you see the likes of Cory Everson look more like Monica Brandt everyday. She seemed to hold her title as Mrs. O and still hold her femininity. Others have gone over the edge. It is sad though that the art of bodybuilding and muscularity will have to be depleted due to the substance of money. It will make it more feasible for women who can't do 7 foot toe-touches to compete in this arena. Interested in seeing where this goes.

Mrs. TG

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WonderWoman
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWoman   Click Here to Email WonderWoman     Edit/Delete Message
IMHO the worlds of fitness and bodybuilding will eventually collide. As we can all see, the fitness folks are getting leaner and harder every year. Womens bodybuilding, because of money, marketability, or whatever is going to have to 'back off'. I also think that as the general public sees more women excelling in athletics in general they will become more accepting of what a female athlete looks like. As we all know it is really challenging to be an elite level athlete and be cute or sexy at all times. As this changes the 'feminine ideal' will change. Ya'll know it ain't gonna be quick. Women's sports has been a redheaded stepchild since the beginning of time. We are just now seeing more professional sports opportunities for women. 20 years ago no one could fathom a women's olympic hockey team. Not to mention a gold medal winning team. 2000 will be the first year for women's weightlifting in the olympic games. What does this all mean?? Change is vey sloooooow. We will eventually get there. Probably not in most of our lifetimes, but one day.
WW

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Checkmatebloated
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Checkmatebloated   Click Here to Email Checkmatebloated     Edit/Delete Message
I quit watching and following Women BB when I caught a glimpse of that Blonde or white headed lady Betty something in the late 80's. I thought she took it to far and then I saw that deaf girl I think her name was shelly beaty and she looked atractive so I started watching again, but I quickly saw linda Murrey(I think that is her name) and quit watching again. If a lady has a test jaw I get repulsed and Linda and Betty both have test jaw.

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Musclicious
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musclicious     Edit/Delete Message
I really dont think that bodybuilding and fitness will ever merge - they are two completely different physique types. It seems that through the judging criteria they are trying to "tone down" both fitness competitors and bodybuilders. Mary Yockey winning the 99 Fitness O kind of shows things are headed that way. But it seems that at the Ms International this year that the bodybuilders did not look too different depite the new judging criteria. I think that having the Ms O this year in Vegas is a good thing - I went to the Mr O last year (did not attend fitness O) and it would have been great to see the women.

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JayeLynn
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JayeLynn   Click Here to Email JayeLynn     Edit/Delete Message
In spite of the fact that we play with science, the truth of it all is that Bodybuilding is very much an art. Given that alone, there will be fluctuating boundaries driven by the public opinion/definition of "beauty". So last year, we all loved Picasso: this year we prefer renaissance style.....okay, but you get the point. I confess that I don't compete and never will: never really could, so my opinions of it all are maybe invalid to some. I do still consider myself a contender in the industry. If I had let reigning athorities dictate my agendas, well, my life would be radically different. I expect your opinions to differ from mine and greatly appreciate that difference even when it pisses me off. I do what I do for me. My body is my attempt to physically portray my vision of beauty to you and those who may care to look. I would encourage anyone in the industry (contender or spectator) to take a similar approach, and promise to appreciate your portrayal if it moves me to do so.

You know, a few years back I bought a show quality cocker spaniel. The vet comments on the length of her tail (nub) and says something to the affect that they (meaning the judges) like them longer now than they have been in the recent past. (we're talking maybe an extra 1/2" to 1 " here) Personally, I think that she should have been able to keep her tail but I'm not an authority on the matter of quality dogs, right? I mean, how would I have known that the tail left as it was when she was born could possibly degrade the quality of a natural specimin. Silly me.

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