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donna2 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted April 03, 2000 07:51 AM
 
how about this one on women?!is growth hormone safe for women?!side effects?!... IP: Logged |
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cjac1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 294) |
posted April 03, 2000 11:56 PM
 Yes, Combined with T3/clen/deca or winstrol will produce excellent gains with need for less gear. Avoiding may of the side effects women don't want. I've used this combo on many fitness women and a former swin suit model. Later IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 345) |
posted April 06, 2000 06:58 PM
Cjac1, Ever used IGF-1?? Just wondering your thoughts.... And I do agree on the GH issue, just be carful and learn how to use it - like anything. Late Lobo IP: Logged |
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cjac1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 294) |
posted April 06, 2000 10:45 PM
Ya, I don't think it's worth the money. I've use a large amount of it and compared it to insulin. I got about the same results on both. I ran this test on myself twice to make sure. IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 345) |
posted April 07, 2000 10:24 AM
Yup, I think I remember your post on that. I've not tryed it myself. Fricking expensive, figure I can get better gains with the standard stuff. After all, that's always a big factor - gains/costs. But then again I ain't on the stage  What do concider a good base line average for a womens dose when using GH? Is 6iu's a bit to much? Late Lobo IP: Logged |
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DocH Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted April 13, 2000 04:48 PM
In response to the original question, I'd highly recommend using a nutritionally based GH stimulant with releasing factors. This is a way in which you can stimulate secretion of your own GH without the risk of exogenous GH sources. We do this in practice with our patients and I do so pesonally with excellent results. It's safer and it works just as well. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 345) |
posted April 13, 2000 07:23 PM
Great Day in the Morning!! A real live Doc has posted!! Wecome to the board - and good luck! Well, stand back and get ready Doc, cause your in for a wild ride if my preivous obsevations prove correct. You may just fine about 1000's emails by the end of the month. So just to start off.... There is no way natural GH stimulation can in any way shape or form compete with "exogenous GH sources." Ok.... I've tossed down the glove so to speek, eeeeps... hope I didn't bite off more than I can chew Late Lobo IP: Logged |
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WonderWoman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted April 14, 2000 03:24 PM
Question about the t3/clen addition to the gh/deca stack.Why add the lean out stuff. My goals are strength primarily, size is okay, no sides. How about this stack 25 mg eq per week+ 10 mg anavar ed + 4iu gh 5days per week. Or 100mg primo per week +4iu gh 5days per week. Either cycle would last 8 weeks adding the gh for the last 4. Comments? Opinions? Thanks WW IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 345) |
posted April 16, 2000 01:47 AM
I like the 100mg primo per week +4iu gh 5days per week WITH 10mg of the anavar - And take it for 10 weeks. Not sure how this short cycle stuff got started with women, but I'm tending to favor a solid 10 or even 12 weeks to give that muscle time to be more permanent. With men the theory is to hit it large and hard then do more short cycles to keep them receptors "open". But with women, you take such a small about in proportion to men that I like the longer duration�s. Just some thoughts - any comments on this would be great.
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WonderWoman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted April 17, 2000 02:58 PM
Okay Lobo, So how about the whole clen/t3 thing. Is it to maintain leaness? Or I've even heard clen helps to solidfy gains. What gives? IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 345) |
posted April 17, 2000 04:55 PM
Ok, bear with me on this cause I'm going out on a mental limb. The T3 theory when used to help improve gains is all in how your hypothalamus and the endocrine system react. By increasing the amount of T3 (not clen mind you - this is a whole different road), you drive you whole body into a higher metabolic state. This ASSUMES that protein conversion and muscle building will ALSO increase. This is good and what we want. BUT, you must ensure proper nutrition. Is there proof positive that this is in fact how to best use T3? Well of course not. But I've done so much reading that I've decided to finish my up coming cycle with five weeks of T3. I hope to not only keep as much fat off during a heavy bulking cycle but to increase the retention of long term muscle gains. So at least you all know I am using and feel it can be a key element in any well PLANED program. As always, you must research and learn BEFORE you use something. Now this would be different if one were to be preparing for a show. But I think it is quickly becoming indispensable because of the testing for diuretics. And maybe this is a good thing as massive water weight drops are brutal on your body and most folks know not how or what they are doing. Hope I didn't step on my toes to much with this explanation. That chem stuff gets deep quick for this ol dog. Late Lobo
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WonderWoman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted April 19, 2000 11:13 AM
Okay Lobo, So you're saying that to add t3 to a bulking stack would not only allow more muscle growth, but also allow more calorie consumtion without adding a bunch of fat? So in essence the t3 enhances all aspects of metabolism. If one wants to drop fat or gain muscle depends upon proper nutrition. Am I getting anywhere near right? What about otc products like triac? I think tey're supposed to do some sort of 'conversion' to t3. Sci-fit makes a product, Syntrax makes one, and I think a couple others. Where do these items fit in on the continum? I've heard it said that one doesn't have to have as many issues around thyroid 'recovery ' if you use these? As we all know, "ain't nothing like the real thing, baby" but for safety's sake or $$$. Any opinion? Anyone? Also, where does clen fit in? cutting? bulking? keeping gains? etc. Thanks, WW IP: Logged |
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DocH Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted April 19, 2000 12:19 PM
Dear WarLobo, Please see my reply to your posting and others regarding GH stimulation in the Anabolic Discussion Boards. Graciously, ------------------ IP: Logged |
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