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big b Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2) |
posted March 05, 2000 08:56 PM
  
I need to shed some fat, and I have cytomel and clen. I have been taking it, but am having headaches, and hot all the time, but hey, if this works, I can deal with it. Has anyone lost alot of fat, and what was your cycle? Thanks IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 366) |
posted March 06, 2000 05:25 PM
T3 and clen, now there is a combo I would not do at the same time. And the T3 I would only do while I was on some type of cycle. The weight your going to loose will include the loss of MUSCLE! So what was your BF before you started? What is your current dosages. What is your core body temp? Cause you could be getting up their and cooking yourself a little to much. (That is a bad thing to do BTW) Late Lobo IP: Logged |
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cjac1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 294) |
posted March 17, 2000 11:24 PM
I would have to disagree with you on this one. Clen cause T3 levels to drop thus the lost effect after a short period of time. Adding T3 in controlled amounts when that happens prolongs the effect of Clen. She most likely has a natural high level of T3 and the add ammount is giving her a rush. Might what to back off the T3 until the effects of the clen slows down then tapper t3 up then down over two weeks. Then switch to a ECA stack for two week. Just my 2 cents worth. cjac1 IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 366) |
posted March 20, 2000 10:32 AM
Interesting point, what amount would you consider using to replace your bodies decreased T3? But then again, why do the clen at all? If T3 production/conversion is suppressed by clen (and it) and you do not develop a "resistance" the T3 as we do to ECA and clen, then why not just stick with the T3 and be done with it? Just some thoughts, still trying to get the all details on the T3 seen. And I do realize that only using T3 would apply more to the guys as it need to be combined with some form of anabolic to keep that muscle.
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cjac1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 294) |
posted March 20, 2000 12:05 PM
True, you could just use T3 forever and never have to use clen or ECA stack. The word being forever. Long term continuos use of T3 will cause your body to stop it's own production and at some point lose the ablity to make any at all but, you could control your body weight with the level of T3 you do. I don't think thats a good option thou. Pros have messed up their systems and will be on forever. You use the T3 to prolong the effects of clen and ECA stack up to 100mcg and at thet point if you stop lossing fat you take a break. Let your own system take over my tapering down the T3 to 0. Restart with the clen or ECA stack til it stop working and restart the process by adding T3. It's done to avoid your own production of T3 shutting down forever. Later cjac IP: Logged |
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airtyme Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 405) |
posted April 24, 2000 10:12 PM
it is good to take T3 and clen together. Since T3 seems to take off a little muscle, the anabolic effect of clen (wears off after 2 weeks just like the effect on your metabolism)will help keep the muscle from being loss, plus the "heat" that the combination of these two products will produce will actually aid in the build up of muscle in short durations. The best way to use these products is 2 weeks clen then two weeks hydoxycuts with asprin and T3 for the during both, tapered up then down. You should be off for weeks 5 and 6 ( maybe 7) so your body dosen't start depending on this stuff. try it this way, I think you will like the results, me and my girlfriend did. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 366) |
posted April 25, 2000 11:03 AM
Did you happen to be on anything else at the time you were cycling the clen/eca combined with the T3 Airtyme? And what happens to muscle when you cycle off the clen and are on the eca portion? Did you happen to get any BF measurements? I know, I always ask this question - but it is such a vital piece of quantifiable information. It takes the guess work out of the equation and gives us the hard numbers of how our bodies are responding to any cycle. I also get very cautious about any potential loss of muscle. To me, any chance of loosing muscle is absolutely the wrong way to go. Muscle needs so much more calories to sustain itself (compared to fat). And it takes so much work to build it in the first place. In the long run, the more muscle you have the more maintenance calories you need to sustain and the easier it becomes to stay leaner. So in the beginning, as in the first few years, concentrate on building quality muscle. This is not to say you should not be concerned with dropping some fat, (via proper nutrition) but not at the expense of loosing the muscle when doing so. Late Lobo IP: Logged |
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airtyme Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 405) |
posted April 26, 2000 09:05 PM
Lobo, Actually I just finished the second portion of the above mentioned cycle of clen/t3 and hydroxycuts. I was taking eq and sust at the time. Here is the kicker, during the cycle, I only gained about 5 lbs, BUT I went from 16% bf to 11%bf. The weight gain really dosen't say much but the fact that I was losing body fat weight and gaining muscle weight at the same time says a lot. I dont think I had much water weight due to the fact I have been taking proviron and clomid thru the cycle to help keep the water weight down (along with my test levels up). The point is, you are going to lose muscle ever now and them for various reason. Look at this way, sometimes it is a good thing. This may be a odd analogy but take a plant for example, if it has a lot of dead or bad leaves on it, it is hard for the plant to grow new leaves. But get ride of the bad ones and more, new stronger leaves will grow. Believe it or not your muscles act the same way. It takes more energy to keep the old, dameged or weak muscle fibers functioning properly. But if you body burns that muscle for energy (your body will use the lesser quality muscle first) then new, stronger muscle will be easier to replace. The moral to the story is burning muscle every now and then is not a bad thing. If you can control it, to a point anyway, and keep it to a minimum, it will actually benefit you in the long run. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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