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Hardcore4Evr

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posted December 28, 2000 01:30 AM

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I have a good bit of IP's 50mg winny tabs, and my fiance is wanting to get on them. This will be her first cycle. Now, what i need to know, is how should she take them? Should i split them up in 1/4's? That would mean each quarter would be 12.5mg. Then she could take one a day. What do you all think? She is 5'3", and weighs 100. Very good genetics. She is 21, and she has sensitive skin. Reason im telling you this is because she is afraid that she is going to majorly break out while on. Any help would be much appreciated. THANKS!

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posted December 28, 2000 11:47 AM

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Can anyone please help me?

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Iron God

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posted December 28, 2000 12:02 PM

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Go with 25mg ED for 8 weeks (awesome 1st cycle)

At 100lbs she is probably looking to put on a solid 10 or 15 lbs if her diet & training is good and calories and protein high she should have no problem.

IG

Also do a search on Winny you should come up with a ton of info


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posted December 28, 2000 02:48 PM

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Thanks for your reply IG. See, i do want to go ahead and get her on the winny ya know. I just dont want her to get terrible sides! She doesnt want a deep voice, or a fat clit(Haha), or acne. I know that you take a chance with anything that you take, but i have heard in the past day that anavar may be a better choice for her to start taking instead of the winny. I mean, dont you think 25mg per day is a little much for a first timer? I do want her to gain about 10-15 solid pounds, but i want to do it as safe as possible. That is why im coming to the board of all boards for your, and everybodys opinions. Any more info, or opinions you have would help. Thanks man.

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posted December 28, 2000 02:59 PM

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Anavar is a good choice also, but its no where near as effective as winny.

As for the sides so far all the women I know who have used winny have had NO permanent sides (and they used 50mg EOD).

You just have to keep an eye out for them and she should be fine.

25mg ED is perfect for a first timer, if her diet and training are good to go, she should have awesome results.

Most books you read and people you talk to are going to tell you rediculously conservative dosages for women. What I am recommending to you is REAL life trial and error dosage that has proven itself effective with very minimal risk.

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posted December 28, 2000 03:22 PM

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IG i appreciate your reply again. You have helped me out so much, i thank you!
See, i know that i have read about a lot of women on here that have taken 50mg eod, like fitness chick has, but you know.....if this was your girl you would be worrying too! But i dont know if i want to start her off on 25mg Per day. Maybe i could start with 12.5mg every day for the first 2 weeks, then up the dosage to the 25mg per day if she doesnt have any real bad sides. Would that work? And how long? Just a basic 8 weeks worth? Thanks again. Oh, and she has really sensitive skin.....that is another reason i wanted to start out low, just to make sure it didnt get too out of hand.

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posted December 28, 2000 03:28 PM

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Yeah 12.5 sounds good for 2 weeks then ramp up to 25mg for 6 weeks.

FC is my girl and would be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried at first. But it all turned out great, as it will for your girl.

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posted December 28, 2000 03:31 PM

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One more thing IG: there is something else i wanted to post, but i figure you are knowledgeable, and a well-liked member, so im just going to ask you.
I know everything that i need for my body. Food, supplements, etc. I know how many times a day i need to eat, and i know what to eat. The one thing I dont know, is what my fiance needs! I mean, she is not going to be able to eat 7 times a day! HA! I know that she will drink shakes, and she will eat good food, and i know that she will be training with me, so i know she will train hard. I just wanna know if there is something i need to know before i start telling her to do things like i do it. Thanks.

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posted December 28, 2000 03:34 PM

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FC is your girl? Congratulations man! You are both lucky to have each other.

Thanks again for your replys, i just posted another one for you a sec ago about diet, etc. I now need to get her some evening primrose oil, standardized silymarin, alpha lipoic acid, and some omega 3 fatty's. I want her to be as healthy as possible while she does this. You know they always say, better to wait and do it the right way, then just jump into it. That is what i wanna do with this

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posted December 28, 2000 04:05 PM

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Good thread you all, HardCore, IG is dead on with the winny doseages. The 12.5 per day would be the more conservate approach, as winny can be one top notch choice, or, it can react nasty. With her size (and sides) in mind, the first week at 12.5 will tell ya, so two at 12.5 is very much in the ballpark. Then, if all is well, 25.

And kudos for the time your taking to iron out all the nuts and bolts. Train her big and heavy - just like any guy. be sure she eats big and eats clean. Your gong to have one kick ass fun time with this one bro...

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posted December 28, 2000 04:25 PM

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Thanks Warlobo, i appreciate your kind words. Yeah, you know i just want everything to be perfect for her. I know she has no clue what AAS dosages to take, or anything about them for that matter! That is why i am here, so i can guide her in the right direction. I want it all to be perfect, and i believe it will be. She is a determined 21 yr old girl, and i think she will do well. Thanks again guys, and tonight im off to Walgreen's to buy a pill-cutter! With IP's 50mg tabs, its gonna be a pain in the ass to split it into quarters, but well worth it.

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posted December 28, 2000 04:54 PM

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Just want to add my 02 on the anavar. It's tops for muscle preservation, strength, and minimal sides including water retention. All of which make it a prim candidate for fitness women getting close to a show. However, to build mass, and lets face the facts, that's what we want in your sitch, anavar just does not have the edge women need when you compare other options. Unless you happen to stack it with a small amount of test... Hold on to your hat then. But this is not a first timers cycle, nor should it be.

You have the winny in hand, a good solid plan, all the other supplements, and from your posts, your lady has the drive and a good training partner�. Shit� get to it!

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posted December 29, 2000 11:37 AM

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Thanks again, Warlobo. I am going to take some before and after naked pics, so when the cycle is over i can show you guys. HA! Just kidding! Nah, but really, im going to take some B4 and after pics. She will probably start taking it the 2nd week of January, after she gets into the groove of working out again, and eating. I will probably say, 8-10 weeks with her cycle.
OH! With women, after a cycle, what is adequate time off before she starts again?

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posted December 29, 2000 12:04 PM

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With winny, or any other oral, I would like to see a min of four weeks. Other that that, there is no theoretical reason in my mind, why women ever need come off.

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posted December 30, 2000 06:06 PM

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So you mean that women dont ever need to come off? Or did you mean that it doesnt matter how long she waits before she starts again? In that case maybe she might do it for 12 to 14 weeks instead of 10.

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posted December 31, 2000 08:27 AM

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The only reason to come off would be to give her liver a break. But that is only if she is using winny. If you decide to extend the cycle, make sure you get some liver protection, milk thistle, drink plenty of water.... etc.

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