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I am posting this message to see what others think of the new ATP advantage liquid creatine serum. Does it work. How is it best used?

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MUSTANG_18
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posted August 07, 2000 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MUSTANG_18   Click Here to Email MUSTANG_18     Edit/Delete Message
DUDE IN MY OPINION DON'T TRY IT. I TRIED IT 2 TIMES AND HAD NO RESULTS. IT DID NOT GIVE ME ANY EXTRA ENERGY OR ANYTHING. THEY SAY TO TAKE IT UNDER THE TOUNG AND LET IT SIT THERE UNTIL IT GETS INTO THE BODY. I HAVE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH THE POWDER CREATINE FROM PROLAB. IF YOU HAVE TIME GO TO WWW.AST-SS.COM
THEY HAVE A STUDY THEY DID ON CREATINE SERUM.
HOPE THIS HELPS.

M18

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newguy
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posted August 07, 2000 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for newguy     Edit/Delete Message
I wouldn't try it either. A buddy of mine tried it with NO results. I'm no chemist, but I've read recent info that states creatine can not be stable in liquid form, despite AST's claims. It turns to a useless waste product creatinine.

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NYJuicer
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posted August 09, 2000 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYJuicer   Click Here to Email NYJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
Go to Ironmag.com. They have the industrial report on it and they say that about 90% of it is not creatine and in fact was creatinine, which is the by-product of creatine.

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Hindustan
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posted August 13, 2000 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hindustan   Click Here to Email Hindustan     Edit/Delete Message
This has been discussed so much. To answer your question simply: "Yes Creatine Serium is a piece of shit!"

Hindustan

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