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biggerbetterbabyg

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posted February 08, 2001 04:09 AM

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i started taking ripped fuel for the first time the other day. by the time lunch time rolled around my heart was racing unbelievably and my stomach was in knots. has this happened to anyone and if so what did u do about it???


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IncredibleHulk

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posted February 08, 2001 07:23 AM

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Ripped Fuel was the very first ECA stack I used years ago. The same thing happened to me. My heart was racing and I was sweating like crazy! All I can say is your body should get used to eat after 3 or 4 days. I'm assuming this is your first time trying an ECA stack. After a week, if your heart is still racing, you might want to switch to an ECA stack that contains 1R,2S Norephedrine. It's found in Syntrax's Adipo-kinetix. It doesn't cause the "jitters" like ephedra does.


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Blackop

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posted February 08, 2001 07:50 AM

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You really want to know......
When I was 16 years old at a boarding school in Canada, I knew nothing of supplements. I just new I wanted to be big, So i did exactly what the rags would say, I bought what they said to etc. Well, for abou 14mo straight I was taking nearly 80mg ephedrine from my 8 ripped fuel caps a day. RIPPED FUEL IS NOT MENT TO BE TAKEN AT HIGH DOSES FOR LONG AMNOUNTS OF TIME. anyways... I only weighed 139lbs at the time, so I was taking way too much. About a year and a half later (almost 18) I got Paranoid schizo so bad that I moved out from my parents house and got an apartment. I didn't work, I didn't talk to people. It was horrible, I was always looking over my shoulder and didn't trust anyone. I joined the Marines about 6mo. later cause I thought they could fix me. It worked too. no probs since. I'm now a med school student. During undergrad studies I learned in psychology that long term users of speed often get this, go figure.

know your dosage and don't stay on longer than you have to.


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riskybiz007

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posted February 08, 2001 05:57 PM

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i know you're a med student but as far as i know in studies i've done, once you are diagnosed with schizo you're a schizo for life. And the main contributor or indicator is family genetics. There are things that can speed up the process, one of them being drugs. I know marijuana, crack, and heroin are big in messing people up prone to psych. disorders, but never heard anything of other drugs. Mainly those 3 will cause you to release enourmous amounts of dopamine, and after that you're never the same.


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Blackop

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posted February 08, 2001 07:17 PM

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That's not entirely true. You can look in any Psychology textbook used in colleges today and it will more than likely be stated that long term use of amphetamines, which are similar to ephedrine, can and do cause psychological disorder. If the user of the drugs is taken off the dependent substance, such as amphetamines at an early enough time from the onset, They can out-grow the condition. parinoid scitz is very unique in it's own ways. Look into it, I found it quite interesting.


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IBUpRoFIN

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posted February 08, 2001 07:42 PM

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I don't think that this is really anything to argue about...i mean i think the guy knows what happened to him. And I say Kudos to you for overcoming it. Nice work man!


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sxjunky

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posted February 08, 2001 09:13 PM

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I've taken at least 4 brands of these kind of stimulants. Ripped Fuel by far was the harshest of all of them. I had your symptoms especially in my stomache. DO NOT listen to the label and DO take half the recommended dosage.

Better yet, try Hydroxycut, that seemed a lot cleaner in terms of it's effects. It's recommended that you don't take ECA's for more than 6 weeks, and you want to work your way up to taking the full recommended dosage. Hope this helps.


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kid

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posted February 08, 2001 09:18 PM

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blackop, you might be a med student, but i think a dumb one at that. you spell shizophrenia like that and it is not caused by any durgs. it is a genetic disorder that drugs can exacerbate and increase the chances of getting. you can induce bipolar d/o, depression, anxiety d/o, and seizure d/o by the overuse and abuse of drugs.


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Blackop

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posted February 08, 2001 09:45 PM

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Thanks for clearing that up for me kid. I'm glad that there is at least one smart person on this board. Some times I sure have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm glad you can set me straight. I wish I were more like you. It would probably help alot if you could just come on over and do my classes for me.

Anyways, Ripped fuel is good stuff, just don't take to much for too long. Beleive whomever you like, cause I don't care.

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posted February 08, 2001 10:09 PM

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Blackop
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If your going to be a doctor, I hope you change your quote soon!!!


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Blackop

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posted February 08, 2001 10:13 PM

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I want to say thanks to the Bros that were watching my back. As for the rest of you I hope I didn't hurt your egos too bad by actually knowing what I was taking about before talking, but here is a clip I found with great ease. : ) enjoy and please be sure to try to backup your unbased claims after you read this too. [URL=http://fromthepines.com/adderall.html

AMPHETAMINES http://fromthepines.com/adderall.html[/URL]
AMPHETAMINES
Brand Names: Dexedrine, Biphetamine, Desoxyn, various other preparations.

Used for: Officially, for three conditions: (1) narcolepsy, a condition in which the patient falls asleep suddenly during the day; (2) obesity, and (3) hyperactivity in children. Unofficially, it is sometimes used for chronic depression that fails to respond to all other treatments and for very ill medical patients with depression.

Do Not Use if: You haven't tried other antidepressants and psychotherapy, you have high blood pressure, you are very nervous or have severe insomnia, you have a history of addiction to drugs or alcohol, or you have Tourette's syndrome.

Tests to Take First: You should probably have an electrocardiogram to be sure nothing is wrong with your heart and your blood pressure should be recorded.

Tests to Take While You Are on It: Blood pressure and pulse should be taken every day for the first week, then once a week for a month, and then at least every month.

Usual Dose: Usually starts with 5 or 10 mg per day and can be raised, sometimes to 50 mg or higher. The higher the dose the worse will be the addiction. Amphetamines should not be taken at bedtime.

How Long Until It Works: Usually almost immediately, sometimes an hour after the first dose. The effect also wears off quickly, lasting only a few hours. Therefore the drug is usually taken in divided doses two or three times daily. After it has worked for a while the effect may wear off and the patient may require a higher dose. This is called tolerance. At this point a decision must be made either to keep raising the dose or to stop the drug because it is not working adequately.

Common Side Effects: (1) Nervousness. (2) Insomnia. (3) Loss of appetite. (4) Addiction.
Less Common Side Effects: (1) High blood pressure. (2) Rapid pulse rate. (3) Tolerance (constant need to raise the dose). (4) Feelings of suspicion and paranoia.

This place would be so much better if we all just spoke of things we knew and ask questions when we don't know something instead of making statements that are not true. We need to stick up for each other and learn from each other. Stay Strong Bros.
SemperFi


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bgriff

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posted February 08, 2001 11:14 PM

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Blackop is right!! Im not a doctor but the same thing happened to me from ripped fuel when I was younger!! It also happened a few years ago when I was hooked on meth!! Same exact paranoid feelings!!

So just cuz he cant spell that means he dont know what hes talking about??? FUCK OFF!! hehe I cant spell but I sure as hell know what I am talking about!!! LOOSER

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kid

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posted February 09, 2001 07:12 PM

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you both are shit heads and i mean that. any type of amphetamine,wheter is ripped fuel or meth can cause all those side effects: insomnia, nrervousness, anxiousness, and slight paranoia. the ony thing is, there is huge and i mean fucking huge differece between being just paranoid and being a paranoid schizophrenic. you can get paranoid from smoking pot too much. you guys can go search all you want, but you are wrong. i have worked in a psych hospital for alomost 7 years now and i have to tell you that you are wrong.


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drdaz

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posted February 09, 2001 07:56 PM

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There is a very big difference between weed paranoia and speed induced paranoia. The weed paranoia can be shaken off...

The paranoia that can be experienced towards the end of an amphetamine binge is something that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

Very frightening indeed.

Daz


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Blackop

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posted February 09, 2001 08:15 PM

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How ignorant can you get. Do you even have a college education. Like I said, look it up anywhere, heck call a seasoned psychiatrist on the phone. Research shows whether you like it or not that your wrong. the fact that your to thick headed oO(or empty) to accept that only show immaturity and lack of education. But keep on responding with your own opinion or claims you make up, cause we will all be eternally humored by your posts from now on. Thanks for the laughs bro. I'm out on this post.

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MrTeenNewOrleans

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posted February 10, 2001 01:20 AM

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This is off topic

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chillin408

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posted February 10, 2001 03:32 AM

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i think the paxil commericals and drug pushers make alot of people feel they have psych problems,alot more than really do,of course some people have low or mild cases of anxiety,ocd,schizo,etc,but come on have u guys ever seen people that really have these problems ,u guys throw around the words like its nothing,man their are people out (less than 1% of the population) that realy have anxiety,ocd,schizo,bipolar,etc ,more than just the people who say,oh i was too shy to approach this girl at the mall,so that automatically means i have severe anxiety problems , their is people out their that have 10-100x worse psych conditions,i dont know about eca stack causing conditions,if it did cause schizo im sure it would be off the market years ago,FDA is more worried about the cardic problems,but still no studies show if used properly that it is not safe,if this is true can u guys show me a study that shows people coming off eca are schizo for life??? i think this is one of those myths similar to sugar makes u feel hyper,or t3 causes permanent thyriod shutdown,my college biology textbook says anabolic steriods leads to cancer??? but the people on the board say their is no studies that show this?? who should i belive??? i nowadays in the textbook they ad a few things extra to scare you so the gov't will have more power

i think if u already have a certain condition that eca may make it worse depending on what it is,but i do not think eca creates a condition,but then again i think that we all have a some of those conditions to a small degree,but i think the people with mild or worse,eca might make it worse,

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