- the above words were spoken by Dubya Bush after the Florida Supremes came out with a decision he didn't like. Of course, this
doesn't set off too many alarm bells in the media, because nobody EXPECTS this idiot to know that there are three branches of government - legislative, executive and judicial - and that it is the JUDICIAL branch that interprets the law, NOT the executive. This guy would fail a grade 10 Civics class, and half the people in this country want to see him be President.

Excellent point!

I would think that Bush would be the man on this isue since Gore would most likely want to create programs to deal with problems of the "war" instead of killing it before it gets to that point.

This board knows I'm a Bush supporter, but he's not my ideal candidate. I just believe he will do more for the military than Gore, considering how far out of touch Gore is with currnet morale and readiness of our troops. And I have a lot of friends and some family there.

The drug war is insignifcant in many ways. First, as a percentage of the budget, it is nothing. Entitlement programs use 90% of the budget before programs like the war on drugs gets a nickel. So there is no economic impetus to eliminate it.

It's funny to see people talk about the percent of the population in prison. The drig war is serving its exact purpose. Here's why: if you want drugs, you can get them. if I ant weed, coke, AS, acid, E, whatever, it's phone call away. So it's illegal, but not unavailable in any way.

I have money. I know people. If I were a drug user, and I got busted, I would just get an attorney and get probation, or get the charges reduced. There's no reason to put me in jail- I pay a lot on taxes, and get no direct government dollars in return.

Now if I were poor, I would have no attorney and get jail. Then I would be out of the loop, and in jail, due to our drug war. it is this program that keeps the poor going straight to jail.

The advantage of that is that America never has to wake up and say, "Holy shit! we have a real poverty problem here." We can keep jailing our way out of the problem.

The war on drugs will not vanish so quickly.

Ask yourself: what is so bad about 5 million people in jail? (to those in power). It sounds crazy to think that so many Americans might go to jail, but why should lawmakers or powerful people care? It's no one they know who is going to jail.

Jail and the war on drugs combine as a powerful tool to incarcerate the poor. Throw them in jail, then we don't have to confront the poverty issue. It was probably not intended that way, but that sure is a nice benefit fopr the people who are successful.

This country right now has over 6% of households making over 100K per year, the highest it has ever been. Is the government printing more money? Of course not. It is leaving the hands of many and going into the hands of few.

So there are more poor people. In this time of economic expansion, it should not surprise you that more people are going to jail. Those with money just want the poor to go away (generally), so please tell me bro:

What ideological change is going to stop the war on drugs? How do the powerful people benefit from that?

Matt

"Drug War" seams to be a hot topic here.

let me tell you all something. there is no drug war.

the only war our country fights is a numbers war. drug realated arrests,amount of drugs seized.

The way our country has delt with the problem
is flat out moronic.
arresting the population into submission is the last thing this country needs.

What we are in desperate need of is
foreign(sp?)interdiction. which we have only recieved funding to do so this year.

to stop the influx of narcotics into this country we need to stop the sources/and or manufacturers.

lets take Colombia and Afghanistan for example.

colombia produces somthing like 90% of our nations cocain. we must wax the mother fuckers that pay the local population to grow and harvest the coca plants,help the local colombian govt. seek and destroy the
labs and dist. centers. aswell as using
1000 marine's and 1000 naval personel
to inspect shiping containers(DOD projected amount need to inspect 75% colombian shipping).

Afghanistan is a very simple job. you kill or
jail Osama bin-Laden.reduces 50-60% of the worlds heroin production in one hit. this man is worth somthing like 250-400 million dollars(us).
he's a known terrorist,arms dealer and Drug
Cartel. hes' already in deep shit with JSOC
and DOD.***Hot target***

why none of this is being done is because of
politics, in the last 8 years clinton/Gore has done fuckin nothing, nada.
word around is that clinton/Gore have taken money from drug cartels,Republic of china(very very bad),and various governments.

bush 2000 all the way

ENSLOW

there you go "funds"

funds serve no real purpous because we dont know realy how they are spent. thailand,
colombia, and afghanistan have some of the most corrupt police forces in the world,
america must be involved in all areas of the drug war.meaning we must train these forces in limited objective warfare,in conducting raids, gathering of intel, and search and destroy missions against various threats, such as people,labs,and defoliation of land.
we also must have Govt. and or military advisors to help lead the planning and conducting of these raids. which we have just received for colombia.

yes, i know this is not the first for monetary aid to colombia, but its the first
time they will recieve people,brown water naval personel, helo's,planes,NRO help, and real leaders who are not afraid of the drug cartels or the gorrilas.

these countries want it so bad they just need the training, equipment, and leaders to
moled real leaders and lead them and guide them in the right direction. once they have that, they wont feel so helpless and scared for there lives and families.and will have somthing to fight for.

i know i cant deswade you, you know everything.

ENSLOW