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BigTruck

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posted November 23, 2000 01:33 PM

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Hey.

I've decided to join the reserves as an officer (I've got my BA). I'm deciding between the Air Force or Marines.

With Marines I could fulfill that lifelong warrior/badass urge, but I was thinking they might not have as many routes of training as the Air Force that would transfer over into the real world career-wise.

Any opinions from those with experience. Info appreciated...

BTW, I'm 28 (and probably getting close to the age cap), if that matters.

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MR.?

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posted November 23, 2000 01:45 PM

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Air Force! They have the best of every thing. The skill and job training is the best.


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted November 23, 2000 01:46 PM

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Truck,

I was an Army officer for a while. Go Marines. Being an officer is a lot of administrative work, but if you are in a warfighting unit (i.e. not the Air Force) you can experience military (field)leadership, and that's really cool.

If (and I don't see how) you would get the opportunity to be a pilot, go to the Air Force, otherwise, go Marines.



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bignate73

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posted November 23, 2000 03:25 PM

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i was an enlisted marine, you could go marine if you wanted to fulfill the "badass/warrior" thing. airforce is the way to go if you want the best of everything though. you have to want to give up a few things to be a marine. its more for pride than forward advancement. you will definitely get good experience leading marines, but if you are looking for more tech/admin related realworld stuff, then you should go airforce. plus the ass that they have running around makes W.M.s look like puppychow. hehe.

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posted November 23, 2000 05:49 PM

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Ditto what bignate said!! I'm an enlisted army infantryman in Bosnia(Happy Thanksgiving!), and I haven't seen one ugly airforce woman out here. Now the army women thats another story. And if your in an infantry unit you will rarely see a women


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delts

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posted November 23, 2000 06:44 PM

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I did six years of Air National Guard duty in Bridgeton, Missouri outside of St. Louis. I went to basic in Lackland, and the marine base was right next to us.......I saw some of the crap those brothers had to put up with. Glad I chose AF for sure.

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Nutzz

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posted November 23, 2000 06:52 PM

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If you have to ask, then you belong in the air farce.


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted November 23, 2000 07:32 PM

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Truck,

Ifyou want the easiest time, go Air Force. If you want to actually feel like you're in the military, Marines, Army or Navy will do that for you.


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BigTruck

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posted November 23, 2000 09:34 PM

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Nutzzo -- nice. Actually I was just fishing to see if anybody had anything to say about the training offered in the Marines transferring over to the real world. And find out about the whole experience in general. Only dumbasses don't ask questions when they are about to make a major committment that effects not only them, but their wife and children. I think drawing intelligence from available sources who have been there and that I respect is what any good Marine or military person in general would be taught to do. Thanks for your contribution though.

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Nutzz

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posted November 23, 2000 10:53 PM

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I gave five years to the Corps as an enlisted Marine. When I got out, my salary went from 14K to 60K now I am over 100K, in less than 3 years.

My technical training certainly helped me make the jump into the civilian world. But the leadership training I received was second to none, and that is why I excel in everything I do.

Semper Fi


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted November 24, 2000 12:30 AM

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Truck,

Another perspective: I was an Army Ranger officer. My job was to lead 38 other guys in things like seizing airfields, urban combat, and other high intensity operations. (airborne, heliborne, etc.) Our job was to go where the enemy is, and kill him, even when he knew we were coming.

In other words, I didn't do a fuckin thing that was DIRECTLY TRANSFERABLE to the civilian world.

But I learned leadership, both by example and administrative, I learned how to manage resources, how to develop and implement a plan - in other words: how to GET THINGS DONE.

This can take me in any direction. It is transferable virtually everywhere. I transferred it to implementing network solutions, another guy I know is an investment banker, yet another is an FBI agent.

You can go anywhere with these skills.


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Ferrus

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posted November 24, 2000 01:38 PM

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Hey Truck, whattup
Go Air Force if you're going to remain in the Reserves (I was active Army then National Guard)
Although the Marines have some technical fields, the Air Force will have many more "transferable" career training fields to offer-
Both will offer leadership training (but the Marines are definitely more hardcore in both training and reputation)


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Gilbyag

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posted November 24, 2000 01:48 PM

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x army grunt, military is full of dipshits on the enlisted side. go air force, wish I had. from the sounds of it youll find more of what your look'n for there.


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jako

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posted November 24, 2000 02:17 PM

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if you want the best of everything without all the B.S. AIR FORCE all the way, no brainer......


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Pat1USMC

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posted November 26, 2000 12:38 PM

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I agree with Nutzz. If you're not sure, go Air Force. You have to want to be a 'Marine' before you start worrying about education, how much you'll get paid later, and what the military can do for you.

I can tell you though, AF officer training is NOTHING compared to Marine Corps officer training. But ya know what, you'll know that when you're done, and for the rest of your life, and thats what makes it what it is.

Give me an email if you want to know more about either service's training.
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posted November 27, 2000 10:43 AM

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SEMPER FIDELIS


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BigTruck

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posted November 27, 2000 10:48 AM

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Hey bros -- thanks for all the great info. I've decided on choice #3 -- the one I didn't mention.

After researching a little more (and talking to my brother in law who is Army), I've decided that I'm leaning heavily towards Airborne Guard. I love the instant respect that the Marine name commands and definitely feel that I'm up to the challenge, but I'm more of a land-crawler than ocean-goer. Plus, jumping sounds like it might be right up my alley. I think the Airborne name commands respect as well. (Not that I'm seeking approval from others, I just want to personally feel like I've done something challenging and have proven myself to myself -- hence the focus on respect)

My understanding is that Airborne works basically in the same capacity as Marines -- first in. Sometimes in conjunction with Marine attack. I'll still be going as an officer. Would you consider Airborne about the same (challenge/training-wise) as Marines?

From Airborne, you can go Ranger, which is my aspiration. I'm meeting with a recruiter this week, I'll keep you posted.

As an aside, I decided (as Skywalker said) that I'm doing this because I am a warrior and want the military experience -- because I want to prove myself -- not because I want to skate through and pad my career path. Therefore, Air Force is probably not the best option for me.

Just thinking about it is getting me pumped as hell! I'm really looking foward to this!

Am I thinking on target? Thanks for the info and comments bros.


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Pat1USMC

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posted November 27, 2000 11:36 AM

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Its cool that you're getting pumped up. One of the best times is when you're just starting out on something that you're pysched about.
One thing to remember though, which I learned after a while. Things are different in the Army for officers. You're training may include jumping out of planes, but will that be what you are doing for a career? Probably not. Officers usually don't get to do the 'cool' stuff. A lot of leadership, planning, and supervising. I say usually, because its not always the case. For instance, an infantry officer or ground intel officer follows the platoon.
Just something to think about. Get around the sugarcoating of what the recruiter tells you you'll be doing, and talk to some real officers in the field that you're interested in.
Anybody else have any experiences?
Good luck bro. And remember before you sign anything, make sure you've thought it over and over and over. I was about 1 month away from a 4-year committment in the Air Force because I was still living the lie that I'd be able to be a pilot (sucky eyesight), when i wisened up and thought about what i really wanted and could actually do. Now its all Marine Corps and I'm glad i did it.


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BigTruck

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posted November 27, 2000 11:38 AM

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I think this is right up Skywalker's alley...


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