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Mr H

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posted November 08, 2000 12:40 PM

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Supposedly, the ballots did not go across in a straight line. So it didn't say Gore and then have a whole next to his name- it had holes above and below his name. So these people were taking guesses as to what hole they had to punch.

This is the working of Jeb Bush!!


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Natural Wonder

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posted November 08, 2000 12:53 PM

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I just saw something about this on CNN
It was clear for me but I can see how old people could get confused.
Work of Jeb


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d1734

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posted November 08, 2000 02:59 PM

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Old people vote based on freebies for the most part, we all know that. Yeah, their votes should count but I don't feel sorry someone who can't even vote correctly.


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chesty

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posted November 08, 2000 03:00 PM

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I saw the ballot, only an idiot could mess it up!


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Weapon X

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posted November 08, 2000 03:01 PM

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This is bullshit. Why can't every Nader voter claim that they were confused, or every Browne voter?

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d1734

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posted November 08, 2000 03:05 PM

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If you voted for Buchanan in good conscious you could make a case you were drunk or confused...hehehe


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mike arci

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posted November 09, 2000 02:09 AM

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honestly i dont know whats the big .deal they both suck bad ,i dint even vote ,so as we speack im making a bumper sticker that says ,,, DONT BLAME ME I DINT VOTE,,


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WODIN

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posted November 09, 2000 06:18 AM

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Bush is EVIL I tell YA! EVIL!

Get use to this... I love fucking with the electorate.

and if the vote swings tonight...

GORE IS SATAN!!!!

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5setsofsix

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posted November 09, 2000 08:20 AM

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Those ballots even had arrows next to the candidates name pointing to the right button to push. I dont see how any normal person could screw it up. More bullshit from the Democrats.


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Captain_insano

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posted November 09, 2000 08:28 AM

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Is the Northern tip and the southern tip of Florida in two different time zones?

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Testoman

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posted November 09, 2000 09:09 AM

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It seems as if 19000 ballots are irregular because people were punching holes for Gore and Buchanan. I am not saying that the ballots are extremely confusing but if you are grandpa or grandma, or if you are a bit in a hurry and you don't look at the ballot long enough to grasp it's system you might as well pound in the wrong hole just by accident.

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The Shadow

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posted November 09, 2000 11:02 AM

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This is a non-issue. If you are not intelligent enough to figure out the ballot, you should not be allowed to vote.

BTW - a reporter finally got around to looking up the polling results from 1996. Guess what?? Different style ballot and Pat Bucc. got over 3000 votes then as well.


Non-issue.

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It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running.


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Mr H

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posted November 09, 2000 11:21 AM

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It is to an issue.

Browne of the Libertarian party received 300 votes- yet there's only 112 registered libertarians. I doubt anyone really wanted to vote for this guy. If this was the other way and Gore led, you'd all be doing the same thing the Gore supporters are doing.

And they showed that ballot on TV last night. It was confusing. You have two sides of a ballot, each pointing into the middle- with a bunch of holes that don't line up to anybody's names sitting in the middle. The reason you claim it was so easy to figure out is because you support Bush. Admit it, you've never seen anything like the ballot they used. And what's with ballots anyways? I pull a damn lever whenever I vote.


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Mr H

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posted November 09, 2000 11:32 AM

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OK. It looked harder to read on TV. This picture does make it seem easier. But I'm not 65 with bad eyes


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Testoman

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posted November 09, 2000 11:40 AM

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It is still somewhat confusing!

You have the democrats in the second box from top but you have to pound in the third hole. Doesn't make any sense to me.

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The Shadow

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posted November 09, 2000 11:45 AM

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I apologize but I don't see what is so difficult about following a bold-faced arrow.


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Rock_Man

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posted November 09, 2000 12:02 PM

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Why didn't they just make the ballots with big boxes that you had to write and "X" in right next to the candidate?

Then there could be no question. That's what they had for us. Then they could have had the big print and the ability to say, hey..You wrote the "X" in there... That's it.

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phoenix

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posted November 09, 2000 12:29 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr H:
It is to an issue.

Browne of the Libertarian party received 300 votes- yet there's only 112 registered libertarians.



As a Libertarian I take offense to that.
If you are a bodybuilder and you want your gear, you should vote Libertarian. there are tons of other reasons like real small government, moving toward 0% income tax. etc

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d1734

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posted November 09, 2000 02:04 PM

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Browne of the Libertarian party received 300 votes- yet there's only 112 registered libertarians.

My cousin is a registered democrat and he voted Libertarian.

I doubt anyone really wanted to vote for this guy.

Um...how about getting a damn clue.

If this was the other way and Gore led, you'd all be doing the same thing the Gore supporters are doing.

I don't give a shit who is elected. I just want to see campaign finance reform passed, whether it be by Bush, Gore, or your pet cat.

. It was confusing. You have two sides of a ballot, each pointing into the middle- with a bunch of holes that don't line up to anybody's names sitting in the middle.

Like I've said, if you can't punch a hole in a friggin' ballot go join the chimpanzees at the zoo.

No offense Mr. H, but I can't help but call bullshit on this one.



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Mr H

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posted November 09, 2000 02:17 PM

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d, How can you overlook the fact that most of the voters in Palm Beach are OLD PEOPLE? Do you think they have the same thinking skills as us- or even the same eye sight?

Do you really believe those votes were for Buchanan?

Hell, he doesn't even believe they were!

And as for Libertarian- we're talking about one area in Florida making up for 20% of his total FL votes?

Obviously something is wrong.


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Badkins21

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posted November 09, 2000 02:22 PM

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I AM WITH D1734 COMPLETELY! These people lack the intelligence to count in this country! If you cannot follow a BIG BLACK ARROW POINTING TO A HOLE, YOU SHOULDN'T BE LEAVING YOUR HOUSE, ON FOOT OR IN A CAR!!!

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d1734

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posted November 09, 2000 02:28 PM

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Mr. H,

Obviously we will have to disagree on this point, but isn't it true that the democrats could have complained about the ballots in time for them to be changed?

I mean, what's next, specially designed senior ballots with big, bright colors and pictures of the candidates?

As for whats wrong, I think it is the old people. If 99.999% of the population can get it right, then if you get it wrong you might not be able to be classifed as human. Seriously!


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Cleaner

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posted November 09, 2000 02:49 PM

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All they had to do was ask for help.
Thats why they have people working at it.
You don't understand you ask!
Its not like it was different for each person.
Looks fair to me.


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thermo

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posted November 09, 2000 03:10 PM

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i agree, this may in fact be the workings of jeb bush, which is unfair, but voters shouls pay attention to what circle is which candidate, cause clearly the arrow points to gore, so they might try opening there eyes. I also think its bullshit that florida had a different ballot than the rest of the U.S., thats why i definetly think Bush is behind it, every state should have the same ballot and there should be one ballot not different ones in different states, thats when shit liek this happens


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