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THE STEEL BEAST

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posted November 03, 2000 12:12 AM

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GEORGE CARLIN.

When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the r�sum� of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?

And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was. In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!

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IN IRON WE TRUST.

HEAVEN IS THE BACKSEAT OF MY CADILLAC.


HEY ITS THERON!!!!!!! LETS KILL HIM!

I CAME.....I SAW........I BENCHED IT.......


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Frackal

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posted November 03, 2000 12:17 AM

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THE STEEL BEAST

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posted November 03, 2000 12:22 AM

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WHAT DO YOU RELIGIOUS FREAKS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS?HAHA I BET YOU RELIGIOUS ONES WERE TOO AFRAID TO READ THE WHOLE THING LET ALONE RESPOND WITH YOUR THOUGHTS.

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IN IRON WE TRUST.

HEAVEN IS THE BACKSEAT OF MY CADILLAC.


HEY ITS THERON!!!!!!! LETS KILL HIM!

I CAME.....I SAW........I BENCHED IT.......


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scott825

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posted November 03, 2000 12:31 AM

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Another useless religion post that gonna turn into nothing but a flame fest.

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d1734

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posted November 03, 2000 12:42 AM

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i totally agree. i hope the religious people will read it.


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Austin316

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posted November 03, 2000 12:48 AM

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By religious, do you mean people who are strict with there convictions? or people who believe in God in general?


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Weapon X

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posted November 03, 2000 01:25 AM

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Wow, you have caused me to abandon my faith. How could I have been so blind as to believe in God?
That Great Theologian - George Carlin - has undone years of faith and experience.

Haha! Did posting this make you feel better, Beast?
I bet that when George Carlin had his heart attack, he was praying.

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Sharps

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posted November 03, 2000 01:29 AM

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I guess if you consider believing in something beyond this world then yes, I am a religous freak.

What george carlin said was mindless.

I will be honest it was somewhat funny.

But what are you expecting to get from posting that.

Mass conversions of people who decide to abandon their faith.

As for your other comment why would anyone be afraid of reading some peace of shit stand up that carlin wrote.

or is it your intellect we fear?


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d1734

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posted November 03, 2000 01:34 AM

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hey, you never know. i was once a hardcore christian. within 2 weeks of studying evidence i realized that the bible was nothing more than a fairy tale and am now a strong atheist.

probably won't cause many people to examine themselves, guess i just have an unusually open mind.


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underguy77

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posted November 03, 2000 01:35 AM

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Alright steel beast...I'll respond to it.

First of all...why is everyone who believes in God a freak? What the hell do you care, or anyone care, if someone believes in God or not?

And about ur post...heres what I think. Thats just one mans opinion and the way he see's things. I cant explain why things happen. Yes i do wish all the terrible things in life didnt happen, but they do. Its life. All those things that were listed (death destruction war disease...) are mans fault. God gave us free will. And, of course, look what what we did with it.

I personally dont care if you or anyone else believes in God or not. I have some personal reasons why I believe in God, and the proof there was undeniable-God exist, no doubt about it. Also, anytime that I prayed for something, I have recieved it not 50% of the time, but 100% of the time. and another thing-just because you cant see God doesnt mean that He doesnt exist. Hell, i cant see the air im breathing, yet, I know damn well that its there.

id type more but i got class early tomarrow so Im going to bed.

peace


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Weapon X

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posted November 03, 2000 01:38 AM

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Well said, Sharps.
Beast, it seems that you are as much a proselytizer for atheism as any Jehovah's Witness is for Jesus.
Just as pointless, too.
Not to flame you, as I respect your posts overall, but thsi seems to be your "issue" as much as teh 2nd Amendment is my "issue."

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posted November 03, 2000 02:01 AM

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One might as well believe in comic books. Life is too short to have fairy tales guide one's life.


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THE STEEL BEAST

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posted November 03, 2000 02:33 AM

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IM TRYING TO STIMULATE THE MIND.AND IF YOU ABANDON RELIGION ALL THE BETTER.WELCOME TO REALITY.

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IN IRON WE TRUST.

HEAVEN IS THE BACKSEAT OF MY CADILLAC.


HEY ITS THERON!!!!!!! LETS KILL HIM!

I CAME.....I SAW........I BENCHED IT.......


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posted November 03, 2000 02:39 AM

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THE BEAST HAS IT RIGHT


"THINK FOR YOURSELF"


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d1734

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posted November 03, 2000 03:06 AM

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anyone see a contradiction with these 3 commonly used statements by Christians??

"All those things that were listed (death destruction war disease...) are mans fault."

"God gave us free will"

"God is in control of everything"

it doesn't take a genius to realize those statements are in total contradiction with eachother.

ah religion...its just too easy to disprove.


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TheOneYouEnvy

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posted November 03, 2000 03:17 AM

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100% Atheist here!! Too bad there are too many weak minded individuals that need to belive in an imaginary freind to get thier pethetic asses through life.

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posted November 03, 2000 04:32 AM

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....what a post, not only was it funny it was TRUE.


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posted November 03, 2000 07:15 AM

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You know what God says about atheists?

He does'nt believe in them

Nope I don't mind what people believe even if it's nothing, what makes a good person is good intentions and good actions.

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posted November 03, 2000 07:36 AM

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What higher power do you belive in? Just a curiosity Steel Beast........

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WODIN

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I believe in GOD, however I do think that EVERY SINGLE RELIGON ON THE PLANET SUCKS BIG ASS DONKEY DICKS! Non approach the truth through practicing their beleifs, they all approach through manipulation and deceipt of their congregations.


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underguy77

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posted November 03, 2000 12:08 PM

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d1734-explain to me how what I said was a contradiction

id really like to know


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chesty

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They day my ex-wife took my girls from me is the day I realized that there is no god, no holy ghost or spirit, no son, nothing. How could there be to let this happen.

Ahhh, some will say what about the story of Job? I say, bullshit, this guy loses his family, his possessions, all that he had worked for in the name of god, all because god, that arrogant prick lets the devil have his way with job. All over a bet between god and the devil (also known as the first created angel) that no matter what the devil did to job he would not renounce god. Bullshit, you give those kinds of sores, kill my family take away everything from me your not my god, in fact you couldn't be a god.

There you have it, there is no god, no heaven or hell, 1990 is the year god died for me.


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d1734

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posted November 03, 2000 01:24 PM

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Underguy77

i threw in some statements that you didn't say, but that christians commonly used. i have heard those 3 statements many times. how can God be in control of everything, be all knowing of the future, and give us free will at the same time?

think about it...it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[This message has been edited by d1734 (edited November 03, 2000).]


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Austin316

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posted November 03, 2000 02:02 PM

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What people believe is there own business. Why should they abandon there faith, you are no more right then they are. There is no proof on either side of who is right, but you can lose nothing by beleiving in a God


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The Grinch

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LMFAO at ya Beast. Oddly enough, I agree.


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underguy77

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posted November 04, 2000 03:19 AM

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d1734, I never said that God was in control of everything. I'll try to explain this the best I can. What I believe is that God gave us free will. But, I think he knows what choices we will make-since He is all knowing. But, I dont think that He created the universe and just left it to run on its own. Im sure He looks after us and after nature. Look, the truth is that I dont know what He does. And I doubt I ever will, but I think we look at things at a human stand point and cant fathom the idea that the rules of this earth and all the universes dont apply to God or Heaven or Hell or anything related to that. Its just my theory.

peace


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