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Vanguard

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posted November 02, 2000 11:58 AM

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I do but other lifters such as Olympic lifters do not. What are your thoughts?


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Thick dawg

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posted November 02, 2000 12:04 PM

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I usually do 2 sets at my heaviest weight for most exercises. The first set I will go until I know I won't be able to get anothe rrep. Since I try to do the same number of reps my second set, my last rep is usually a forced rep. I think it's good to go to failure, but in moderation. I think people who put on a weight in which they can complete 1 unassisted rep then pound out 8 more with someone's help is a little ridiculous.

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madbomber31

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posted November 02, 2000 12:10 PM

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I DONT CONSIDER T.D'S EXAMPLE A SET TO FAILURE.. THATS A SET TO DISASTER...

I GO TO FAILURE IF I AM DOING A CONTROLLED MACHINE IE. HAMMER STRENGTH MACHINE... THAT WAY I KNOW WHEN I FAIL I AM NOT HURTING MYSELF, CUZ I DONT USE A TRAINING PARTNER.

I WILL ALSO GO TO FAILURE IF AND WHEN I HAVE A SPOTTER, WHICH IS RARE. I PERSONALLY LIKE TO TAKE MY SETS ONE REP BEFORE FAILURE, AND YA, ITS AN ESTIMATED GUESS.


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JohnnyO

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posted November 02, 2000 12:16 PM

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I hire a spotter (he calls himself a personal trainer) twice a week just for that purpose of going to complete failure. THe other times I don't workout to failure.


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Fitnes1

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posted November 02, 2000 12:17 PM

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Sometimes I train to failure. I mix up my workouts every 4 weeks or so. My muscles really feel it the next day when I've trained to failure.

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chesty

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posted November 02, 2000 12:19 PM

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I try to, we are bb, most of us anyway, but i don't always get there, the pain is quite exquiset (sp)


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hooch

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posted November 02, 2000 12:55 PM

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I always train to failure....not on every set...but at least one set of every exercise is to failure..I just don't see a point in lifting if your gonna stop at a point where your body can still handle more...my .02


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Jae

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posted November 02, 2000 01:37 PM

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if you play around with the failure range smartly, you will see that is where 90% of growth lurks.


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Sailor_Girl

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posted November 02, 2000 04:31 PM

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I do. That's what I learned to do in my weight training class and it stuck with me.

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Frackal

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posted November 02, 2000 04:37 PM

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I DO ON EVER SINGLE EXERCISE OTHER THAN DEADLIFTS AND SQUATS.


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bb4424

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posted November 02, 2000 04:37 PM

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this is what i have been told and it makes sense...there are two kinds of failure-positive failure is when you need help pushing the weight away from you or pulling it up....negative failure is when you cannot even lower it with any control....do all sets to positive failure if you have a spotter, as close to positive failure as you can get if you do not...as for negative failure, rarely do it, only on the big muscle groups and be sure to have a spotter and be ready to take 2 days off afterward to heal!


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