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MattTheSkywalker

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posted October 23, 2000 09:29 PM

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Well - it makes no difference economically anyway. That's right - Bush, Gore, whoever -nothing will change.

Why? Because 90% of our federal budget is locked in from year to year, and the remaining 10% won't affect us too much no matter how it;s used.

Six major programs lock in 75% of the budget each year. The next 15% is shared by many smaller but equally fixed programs.

The BIG SIX:

Social Security: This shit uses $403billion dollars each year. $403,000,000,000. That's a lot.

Defense: $294billion.

Debt servicing (interest, etc on national debt): $230 billion

Medicare: $199billion
Medicaid: $117billion

Federal pensions: $79billion

So what exactly can we do about this?
Anyone have any ideas? I have a few, but I'd like to hear from you as well.

Matt


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JustinM

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posted October 23, 2000 09:39 PM

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RIGHT NOW 4 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES MIGHT RETIRE...AND THE PRES PICKS ALL OF THEM..THAT ISNT INFLUENTIAL?

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The Dude

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posted October 23, 2000 09:43 PM

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Government will stay big, but how big and how intrusive is another matter. It does matter. If for nothing else, Bush will restore honor and dignity to the White House.

Vote Bush.

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Warik

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posted October 23, 2000 09:49 PM

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Eliminating Social Security sounds like an idea to me. Your "security" after your retirement is YOUR business, NOT mine. Why should I pay for your "security?" Because you're too incompetent to handle it yourself? When I retire, I'll be using my social security checks for my kids' allowances or something. Maybe I'll use it to wipe my ass.

Eliminate Social Security, add a few billion to Defense, start a program for space exploration and the government gets a B+ in my book.

-Warik


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Rex37

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posted October 23, 2000 09:54 PM

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We had to do one of those match-a-candidate tests in history class today. I think it was pretty much summed into 2 questions that decided who you were for w/ a bunch of others just for good measure. One was are your pro-choice or pro-life. I'm pro-life w/ the extreme exceptions such as rape victims. The other was are you in favor of the death penalty. Yes. So I got matched w/ Bush as my candidate.

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MattTheSkywalker

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posted October 23, 2000 09:58 PM

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Justin,

Good point about the Justices. But it is also true that justices will die on the bench rather than retire when the President will nominate a replacement with contrary views.

For example:
Chief Justice Rehnquist is 76, but don't look for him to retire if Gore wins - he's too Conservative.

Justin - I also stated that ECONOMICALLY it makes no difference.



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JohnnyO

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posted October 23, 2000 09:58 PM

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I'm with Warik! Dump Socialist Security and lick Bush in 2000!


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JustinM

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posted October 23, 2000 10:02 PM

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MATT: I AGREE WITH THE ECONOMICS..I DONT LIKE ANY OF THEM BUT IF I HAD TO PICK ID GO BUSH...I THINK THAT THE VPS ARE ACTUALLY MORE INTELLIGENT THEN THE PRESIDENTS..ITS FUNNY

PEACE
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Rex37

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posted October 23, 2000 10:05 PM

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If Bush wins I'll hate the VP w/ a passion. I hate Cheney now too. Everyone in my family does cause he had a hand in shutting down the Philly Navy Yard. He put alot of people out of work.

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Austin316

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posted October 24, 2000 01:34 AM

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Better than Leiberman who will try and censor every goddamn thing in site. If you Like WWF, Half Naked women, Video Games, etc. Please don't vote Gore/Leiberman


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mrbill

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posted October 24, 2000 08:48 AM

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Rex bro, did you ever consider that the naval yard that was shut down was being paid for with tax dollars? It is unfortuanate that people lost their jobs, but if you believe in less government and less taxation, then you cannot support endless govenment programs that are funded through taxation. Only through less government programs can we ever hope to have less taxation. If you support "endless" government programs, you must also support endless taxes.


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