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supersizeme

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posted October 19, 2000 09:17 AM

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Anyone know why they broke up?


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havoc

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posted October 19, 2000 09:26 AM

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First where did you hear this?
Second, there was tension within the group, Zack was saying he is the only one out of the group who gave 100% into the beliefs in regards to politics.
Third, Zack is working on a solo album(hip hop)
Fourth- There about to drop an album in November, its a live album where they did mostly cover songs of other artists like they did with the "Ghost of Tom Joad"
Fifth-If they break up for good it will completely suck to say the least.

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supersizeme

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posted October 19, 2000 09:31 AM

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take a look at this...i just saw it this morning:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/Entertainment/Rage_Against_the_Machine/


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posted October 19, 2000 09:32 AM

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Hey super go to www.cdnow.com , type in Rage against the machine, then look to the left and click on news, it will say recent by the word news, read on from there.

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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted October 19, 2000 09:44 AM

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Rage is my all time favorite band, I hope they don't break up, they are one of the few who are still hardcore, if it wasn't for their music in my headphones I would not be able to step into a Gym.


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supersizeme

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posted October 19, 2000 09:44 AM

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yeah that's the same reasoning they had posted in the yahoo articles..."failure in decision-making process." well that blows, that was a quality band. i would've rather seen some crap band like limp bizkit break up. hopefully zack's solo shit will be good, he's got a pretty good voice for rapping so i'll be looking forward to it. i always feel like somebody in my family died when a good band breaks up. i wasn't a huge nirvana fan but they put out some good music and when kurt 86'd himself it was like...damn no more new music from them anymore. same with notorious.


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posted October 19, 2000 09:49 AM

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Nirvana'a unplugged was excellent.
Limp Muffin sucks , I cant take them seriously because I dont take bitch ass mofos seriously when they talk noise in the first place. Korn bites as well. Deftones would be allright if they would end the fucking screaming and sing lyrics that are somewhat understandable. Rage is by fucking far my favorite band. Sublime is good as well but we wont be hearing anything new fromt them either.

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posted October 19, 2000 10:34 AM

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I don't know when KoRn started sucking, they where a good band and then their last album was like all the songs sounded the same with diferent lyrics.


Music is at a sad state right now.


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posted October 19, 2000 10:50 AM

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Finally, some who hates Limp Biskit and Korn as much as I do. I would love to find Fred Dirsch alone and beat him. Plus that whiney bitch from Korn needs a good slap.


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special_bill

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posted October 19, 2000 10:53 AM

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im sorry to hear that yalls favorite pinko band broke up....but hey, their idiot bass player sure was cool climbing up that thing on the MTV...

really, i know how much you like them, it would be like dawson's creek getting canceled for me...


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posted October 19, 2000 11:02 AM

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I agree the stunt on MTV was completely uncalled for but dont let one moron speak for the entire band, I like the band mostly because of Zach and his message and because Morello came up with some interesting riffs and styles.

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posted October 19, 2000 11:06 AM

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My cousin is a die hard Rage fan,
he told me that Rage actualy deliver a Communist message.
I'm a die hard Capitalist and I don't agree with all aspects of communism but the still kick ass.

Freedom yeahhhhhhhh freedom yeahhhhhhh


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supersizeme

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posted October 19, 2000 11:08 AM

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player_bill even if dawson's creek was cancelled i'm sure van der beek would still come over to your place at 2am drunk and wanting to share special time with you. i wouldn't worry about it.
i thought korn was pretty good up until their last album and then i completely lost interest in them. freak on a leash and life is peachy were excellent albums but then issues just sounded like all the same songs.
How can anyone respect a band like Limp Bizkit who puts on this image of being hardcore and rough sounding and then Fred Durst gets onstage at the MTV Video Music Awards and performs with Christina Aguilera. what a fucking joke. he then covered his ass later by saying that he just wants to get with her and that he was doing it all for the nookie. bitch please. like a chump hey.


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posted October 19, 2000 11:25 AM

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I tell you what its nice to see many other Bro's who dislike "pimp lipstick" and "korn" as much as me, they both suck....Rage is a damn good band, Tom's guitar playing is insane and Zach's vocals, well that goes without saying.....I guess all good things come to an end.....sux though......

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madbomber31

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posted October 19, 2000 11:26 AM

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I LOVE THE SOUND OF RAGE, ZACH AND TOMMY BRING IT, NO WAY AROUND IT... BUT SOMETIMES I THINK ZACH IS TOO ANTI AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. I THINK IT SUCKS HE LEFT THE BAND, AND THEY ARE NUTS IF THEY THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT HIM.. OH WELL, TIME TO GRAB UP SOME MORE BOOTLEGS...

HEY, YOU GUYS DOWNLOAD FUCK THE POLICE BY RAGE? ITS KINDA COOL... DIFFERENT, FAR DIFFERENT FROM NWA, BUT WORTH THE TIME ON NAPSTER.


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Mr H

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posted October 19, 2000 12:20 PM

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I think they've been falling off since their first album anyway. All their singles atleast are all delivering the same message and they all sound the same.

Killing in the Name Of..., Bombtrack- now there were some great songs. I can still get psyched listening to the old stuff but if this means I no longer have to listen to De La Rocha singing about the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria again, so be it.

If you guys are looking for something along the lines of Rage- just get the Papa Roach CD- all the songs can get ya pumped.


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posted October 19, 2000 12:23 PM

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Well, you never know if one of those guys can sing just as good, or even better than Zack. If you go back to the 80's and look at the band 'Joy Division,' their lead singer killed himself and one of the other band members began to sing. They changed their name and became "New Order"

For anyone unfamilar with them, theyre the group that originally did "Blue Monday" (the song orgy re-did it). They were one of the top bands of the 80s after the lead singers suicide and were slowly becoming a good band when he offed himself.


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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted October 19, 2000 12:27 PM

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Mr H,


bands and artist can change their sound but they should stay true to their message,

how could rage sing about poverty and greed in their first album, and then switch to "dollar dollar bill yo" or "I'm so drepressed I want to kill myself" their next, thats really called selling out.

their music has evolved but their message has stayed the same, thats fucking rock!!!!


PS: De La Rocha has to be one of the Greatest frontman out there, anybody that went to Woodstock or seen it on TV, could have seen that he fucking pumped the crowed up, I think their performance blew away Limp Muffin's and at that time Limp was "in style".


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posted October 19, 2000 12:30 PM

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Well, if you think Limp Bizkit actually did anything special at Woodstock- look at NINs performance at Woodstock 94. That was the one Fred said he wanted to top.

I say he failed, miserably.

And new albums are about evolving- changing your style, etc- maybe the message hs to stay- but the music is supposed to change. But then again in todays society if you're a genius who keeps changing your styles your fans leave you. But if you keep doing the same thing, you're unoriginal.


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Mr. T

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posted October 19, 2000 12:58 PM

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I refuse to listen to Rage as long as they continue to be anti American. I dont care how good the music is, the lyrics are pure communism. Limp and Korn both have one or two good songs, but overall they have no talent. I cant believe the crap kids listen to these days. Its all in the marketing I guess-


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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted October 19, 2000 01:06 PM

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hey Mr. T,
do you "Pitty the fools" ??????


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posted October 19, 2000 01:33 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by BIG RICK ROCK:
I don't know when KoRn started sucking, they where a good band and then their last album was like all the songs sounded the same with diferent lyrics.


Music is at a sad state right now.


Korn's videos even look the same too. Everytime they make a new one I say ain't that their old video. And to make matters worse MTV sucks up their asses like its the last source of oxygen.

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posted October 19, 2000 01:37 PM

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Limp is a pain in my ass sometimes too. But they'll put out a good song every once in a while. I like the version of the MI:2 theme, instrumental though. The one with words blows.

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special_bill

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posted October 19, 2000 02:35 PM

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yall should listen to old suicidal tendencies...they are pro-american and pro-possessed skateboarding...


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KiNg_BeNNy

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mr t for you to say that they are communist im gonna have to disagree with you ..rage is not anti amrican .and if you knew anything about them then you would know that...what they preach about ..is political injustices that i dont always agree with ..and when they talk stupid about america .which i also think is worng they are doing because they expect america to act like america should ..we should help people we shouldn't stand idol and watch as mexico struggles for democracy..america is the most powerful country in the world people all over long for what we have rage knows this and they love it ...i agree with them on that point..tom morrello said in an interview he didnt expect zach to burn the flag at woodstock..which i think is absurd..but you have to look alittle deeper into the source before you make a claim like you did....

as for zach leaving ..i think it is a shame ....i have been in love with the band since i found out what music was ..they are the torch carriers of hard rock..its a shame ..i will and you all will just have to wait for zach to return..and he will return..

i also am going to have to disagree with some of you ..who said korn has no talent ..what the fuck are you looking at or listening to ..korn fucking rocks...there latest cd isnt what we all expected but give me a break...they are an awsome band..ohh yeah and i also like limp...durst maybe an arrogant self centered asshole but they bring up beat music with some dope lyrics to the table ..and they fucking rocked woodstock mr h.....

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special_bill

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posted October 19, 2000 04:23 PM

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he burned the american flag at woodstock?...i had no idea...that kinda shit would get you killed in alabama....


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KiNg_BeNNy

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posted October 19, 2000 04:32 PM

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yeah bill zach tends to get a little tooo radical at times .it really didnt go over well..but..that doesnt mean he is a communist

peace kb

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Kwai-Chang Caine

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Rage is not anti-USA, they are anti-capitalism. And even if they are socialists/communists, it doesn't mean they hate America. Hating capitalism is not the same as hating the United States. It's simply a political ideaology that was made out to look evil during the Cold War and is therefore associated with the former USSR. If you have ever studied Marx, you will see that communism is alot different then what what popular culture depicts it as being.

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posted October 20, 2000 08:42 AM

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I HOPE LIKE HELL THEY DONT BREAK UP. I HAVE ALL THEIR CDS AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO LISTEN TO JUST THOSE THREE OVER AND OVER IF THEY BREAK UP....ZEUS


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This is brutal

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