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Weapon X

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posted September 28, 2000 04:43 PM

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"On every question of construction [of the Constitution], let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322.

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
--Thomas Jefferson

"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force."
--Thomas Jefferson

"That the Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent "the people" of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms..."
--Samuel Adams in arguing for a Bill of Rights, from the book "Massachusetts," published by Pierce & Hale, Boston, 1850, pg. 86-87.

"Arms in the hands of citizens [may] be used at individual discretion...in private self-defense..."
--John Adams, A defense of the Constitutions of the Government of the USA, 471 (1788).

"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference -- they deserve a place of honor with all that is good."
--George Washington

"A free people ought...to be armed..."
--George Washington, speech of January 7, 1790 in the Boston Independent Chronicle, January 14, 1790.

"...to disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them..."
--George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380.

"The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun."
--Patrick Henry, in the Virginia Convention on the ratification of the Constitution...Debates and other Proceedings of the Convention of Virginia, ...taken in shorthand by David Robertson of Petersburg, at 271, 275 (2d ed. Richmond, 1805). Also 3 Elliot, Debates at 386.

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty...Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people theey always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
--Rep. Eldgridge Gerry of Massachusetts (spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment, I Annals of Congress at 750 (August 17, 1789.))

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it."
--Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861

"Liberals, it has been said, are generous with other peoples' money, except when it comes to questions of national survival when they prefer to be generous with other peoples' freedom and security."
--William F. Buckley

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
--Mahatma Ghandi

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What does Klinton think? -
"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans . . . ."
--William J. Clinton, USA Today, March 11, 1993.


Another Gun Control Proponent:

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so"
--Adolph Hitler.

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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 28, 2000 04:46 PM

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Guns Guns Guns.....I'll show you some guns


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20.4

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posted September 28, 2000 04:52 PM

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YO GO WEAPON X!
Nice Qoutes.

Those poor people in Inida walking around without arms, no wonder they so skinny!

Every Picture I saw of Ghandi though, He had arms.

BWAUGH!!!!

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Weapon X

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posted September 28, 2000 04:53 PM

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All these pussy scholars trying to "interpret" what the founders really meant.
It seems pretty damn clear to me.

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special_bill

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posted September 28, 2000 05:27 PM

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hey weapon-

that quote attributed to hitler is false..i know, i loved it when i first heard it...

the nazi's were actually very liberal with gun laws...check it out..
http://www.guncite.com/gcbogus.html


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Weapon X

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posted September 28, 2000 05:29 PM

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Thanks for clearing that up, and for citing your source. I replaced it with another Hitler quote.

http://www.jpfo.org/GCA_68.htm

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cm3504jm

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posted September 28, 2000 05:51 PM

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My wifes father was a young (13) lad in Germany in 1934. His father was a police Captain and received an edict from the Nazi party that all privately owned firearms were to be confiscated. The reasoning? if all firearms were taken, then safety for all the public would be assured.

Does anyone think that to be true?

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Weapon X

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posted September 28, 2000 05:59 PM

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Sarah Brady agrees...


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chesty

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posted September 28, 2000 06:32 PM

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One of my professors in college grew up during the nazi rule in germany. He said life was not very pretty over there. One thing to be pointed out is that the original crime control act of 1969, was almost a word for word quote of Nazi doctrine printed in 1933 concerning the rights of citizens, guns and crimes. I don't have the source with me, it was printed in the Natianal Rifleman some years ago. It is packed right now. But they gave names and source information to verify it on our own. Also, it was the drafting author of the act had the nazi act translated directly from german to english. Hmmmm, makes one think.

What really amazes me and pisses me off is the total stupidity of the people of this country. The accept a president who gets banged in office, committing adultery, oh wait a minute, he didn't really have sex because he didn't put his thingy in her love box, so I guess that was okay. What kind of message does that send to us. Shit, 75% of the woman still supported him and still do. Oh, he did nothing wrong? Shit, I bet if he was there husband and he stuck his dick in some other chicks mouth and let her blow him and dribble it on her dress for posterity, they would't be so forgiving.

For clinton to say

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans . . . ." --William J. Clinton, USA Today, March 11, 1993.

and then even the congress to continue to support him, those very remarks are treasonis (sp) And whats more, the American people think this is true. I would say that less than 10% of Americans would be willing to sacrifice their life for the idea of Freedom, for the protection of life, liberty and the persuit of happiness. That is sad that the idea of Freedom, born in the hearts of men and woman that founded this country should be lost upon its heirs.

Are we so eager to give up our freedom? Freedom bought and paid for with blood?

I am freightened for my children and their children.

Chesty, Sept, 28, 2000


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chesty

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posted September 28, 2000 07:57 PM

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bump this one!


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ANACONDA

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posted September 28, 2000 08:04 PM

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TO: Rep. Henry Waxman
> > >
> > >FROM: David Wayne Case
> > >
> > >SUBJECT: .50 Caliber Rifles
> > >CC: Rep. Mark Sanford, Rep. Robert Barr, Sen. Strom Thurmond,
> > >Sen. Ernest Hollings
> > >
> > >I have become aware of your furtive attempt to infringe upon my
> ownership of my Barrett rifle. I am a former Captain USMC, state
marksmanship
> > champion, NRA member, member of the Fifty Caliber Shooter's
Association
> and an avid hunter of deer and hogs. To my knowledge, no .50 caliber
rifle
> has ever been used in the commission of a crime. My rifle cost $6,750.
The
> > telescope on the rifle cost $4,500. The ammunition I most often shoot
> costs
> > @ $4.00 per round. While I tell you this, understand that what I'm
trying to tell you is that I would be an idiot to spend $11,000 on a rifle
to risk
losing it in the legal aftermath of its illegal use. Get the hell out of
my personal life and go play kissy face with Diane Feinstein, Barney Frank,
Charles Schumer and those other leftists.
> >
> > I am now an investment banker and make $400,000 per year. I also have
a
> > Harley Davidson motorcycle and several cars with V-8 engines. Are you
> next going to tell me I don't NEED a V-8 engine ... don't NEED such a
heavy,
> > powerful motorcycle ... don't NEED a house with five bedrooms ...
don't
> NEED a wife with such large breasts...don't NEED a dog with such sharp
teeth
> and so on?
> >
> > This kind of "Chicken Little" reactionary noise is entirely useless. I
am going to notify every legislator in my food chain that they need to take
> you behind the Capital and beat the crap out of you.
> > >
> > >CC: Sen. Trent Lott Sen. Orrin Hatch Sen. Susan Collins
> > >

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I AM "PYTHON_22INCH", I FU$#@* NY ID UP AND HAD TO START OVER.


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MP5

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posted September 29, 2000 12:51 PM

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Nice letter, and I think if someone tried to rob me with a gun like that i would run, not like they could manuever a gun of that weight to get me.


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